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Scott Peterson sentenced to death
http://www.startribune.com/stories/484/5296049.html ^ | 03.16.05

Posted on 03/16/2005 10:15:56 AM PST by wallcrawlr

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To: politicket
The thing that scares me about your posts is that you seem to put man's law above God's law. That is a very dangerous precedent if you want my humble opinion.

You are right in the fact that God's law is supreme and some day we will all have to answer for our sins in "His" court.

In the meantime, whether the laws are right or wrong, we have to answer in state or federal courts that may or may not take God's laws into consideration.

151 posted on 03/16/2005 11:22:23 AM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: wallcrawlr; devolve
Too bad this is in Kalifornee and will NEVER be carried out.

Now, if he were in MY state (Texas):


152 posted on 03/16/2005 11:23:20 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Bluegrass Conservative
In the meantime, whether the laws are right or wrong, we have to answer in state or federal courts that may or may not take God's laws into consideration.

Exactly! Now the question becomes - Who's side are we on? Do we answer first to God? Or to the state?

I'm trying to get you to realize that baby Connor had a name, has a name, and will always have a name, whether the state is involved or not.

In regards to the media...they were perfectly willing to tell us all about "Dolly" the sheep, you'd think they could AT LEAST refer to baby Connor by his name!
153 posted on 03/16/2005 11:27:23 AM PST by politicket
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To: wallcrawlr

There's no reason for this case to have gotten the sort of publicity it got, this is just a typical domestic murder that happens everyday in America.


154 posted on 03/16/2005 11:37:29 AM PST by jordan8
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To: Bluegrass Conservative

A child has a name when a parent decides what to call him or her. The government is irrelevant except to themselves. God won't ask for the papers, the "social security" system in heaven is paper free.


155 posted on 03/16/2005 11:37:59 AM PST by Protagoras (If the Republican Party enacts a new tax they will be out of power for at least a generation)
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To: politicket
Exactly! Now the question becomes - Who's side are we on? Do we answer first to God? Or to the state?

When the two contradict each other, I think it's best to go with God's laws. We may answer first to the state, but ultimately to God.

I'm trying to get you to realize that baby Connor had a name, has a name, and will always have a name, whether the state is involved or not.

I was always taught that those who make it into the Kingdom of Heaven will be given new names and new bodies as we cast all that is earthly behind us.

In regards to the media...they were perfectly willing to tell us all about "Dolly" the sheep, you'd think they could AT LEAST refer to baby Connor by his name!

Sheep aren't required to have birth certificates.

156 posted on 03/16/2005 11:38:53 AM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: thag
It's NOT? Geez, why does Mrs. Thag turn away when I sneeze, and where did these 9 kids come from? Now you're going to tell me the Stork didn't bring'em either!

Maybe you should keep a closer eye on Mrs. Thag instead of spending so much time golfing.....or posting on FR. :-)

157 posted on 03/16/2005 11:39:09 AM PST by jennyjenny
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To: mzbzybee

Why were you put off? If I were Mrs. Roche, I would want my family and friends to be there, too, rather than a lot of curiosity seekers. The family and friends of Lacy Peterson deserve to have this vindication for Lacy.

Scott should rot in hell for what he did to Lacy and Connor. I think life in prison without parole would have been a good start on hell for him. Death by lethal injection is too easy.


158 posted on 03/16/2005 11:40:17 AM PST by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: Bluegrass Conservative
Sheep aren't required to have birth certificates.

With that, I'll bid you Adieu... (shaking head in disbelief)
159 posted on 03/16/2005 11:41:54 AM PST by politicket
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To: Protagoras
The government is irrelevant except to themselves.

The judicial system IS a part of the government though and if they require a birth certificate, sobeit. The media, in my opinion, should follow the lead of the courts to make it less confusing.

God won't ask for the papers, the "social security" system in heaven is paper free.

Never was my argument. I just stated that the media shouldn't refer to the fetus as "Connor."

160 posted on 03/16/2005 11:42:43 AM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: RushCrush

"Don't forget the part where the vigilante gets convicted of premeditated murder, and executed in a timely fashion."


What's timely, 15 years?


161 posted on 03/16/2005 11:51:37 AM PST by Zivasmate (" A wise man's heart inclines him to his right, but a fool's heart to his left." - Ecclesiastes 10)
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To: yellowdoghunter; PilloryHillary
That half-sister of Scott's has written a book about him -- she's convinced he did this.

Apparently the book has all sorts of interesting info, though I probably won't read it.

amazon link to "Blood Brother: 33 Reasons My Brother Scott Peterson Is Guilty"

162 posted on 03/16/2005 12:01:17 PM PST by texasbluebell
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To: Bluegrass Conservative
The judicial system IS a part of the government though and if they require a birth certificate, sobeit.

The government in any form is irrelevant. They inject themselves. Take away their guns and when they ask you for your papers, you can tell them to go scratch ass. My children are named what I named them, and if there was no government or ten governments, that would be their names.

The media, in my opinion, should follow the lead of the courts to make it less confusing.

I'm not confused. Nor is anyone on this thread, they knew who Connor was. Now he's dead. His father killed him.

The media should refer to anyone as whatever they want. The market will decide if it's too "confusing". The free market and free press still work when left alone.

163 posted on 03/16/2005 12:13:54 PM PST by Protagoras (If the Republican Party enacts a new tax they will be out of power for at least a generation)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Maybe this case can now be used as precident against abortionists who commit murder of a late-term fetus.


164 posted on 03/16/2005 12:14:07 PM PST by Mr. K (I plan put my "Run Hillary Run" bumper sticker on the front of my car)
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To: jennyjenny

The mailman does seem to be very popular in the Thag neighborhood!


165 posted on 03/16/2005 12:15:38 PM PST by thag (Thag ain't no rocket scientist....)
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To: Protagoras
My children are named what I named them . . .

Could your children change their names if they wanted to?

166 posted on 03/16/2005 12:16:47 PM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: Zivasmate

Someone like Scott will wait years upon years for his execution. Some vigilante who murders Scott, or some parent distraught over a daughter's murder, who kills the murderer would somehow get punished for their crime way before Scott would.

That's my point. Kinda convoluted- sorry.


167 posted on 03/16/2005 12:26:27 PM PST by RushCrush (Hitler was a gun-banning, abortion-supporting, business-regulating, Christmas-hating, vegetarian.)
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To: PilloryHillary
What if somebody gets Scott in the shower? Guard looks the other way and WHAM...that's it. Didn't Jeffrey Dahmer get killed in prison even though he was in protective custody? Even the most hardened criminals don't like baby killers.

Most likely he will be put in protective segregation due to his celebrity. 22 hours a day in a 8 by 10 cell, 2 hours excersize in a "dog run" type cage, health care and meals in cell. Showers 3 to 5 times a week. whenever he leaves his cell it will be with him shackled at the feet and wrists. He'll be safe , but in that stiflingly isolated locale his mind will slowly unravel and dissolve. I honestly don't know which is worse, slow death like that or a bullet in the brain. Either way , he earned his ticket to hell. The only question now is if the trip will be fast or slow.

CC

168 posted on 03/16/2005 12:33:06 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (this tagline meets or exceeds all standards as established by the underwriters labratories)
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To: Bluegrass Conservative

Scott will still be alive by the time Connor would have graduated from high school, unless one of Scott's fellow inmates does the world a service.


169 posted on 03/16/2005 12:45:36 PM PST by libstripper
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To: Zivasmate

Waiter!, Bill please!.......and make that a Hillary to go.


170 posted on 03/16/2005 12:47:46 PM PST by This Just In ((In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king))
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To: mzbzybee

He's not going to PB because the death row is at San Quentin.


171 posted on 03/16/2005 12:51:33 PM PST by libstripper
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To: politicket
In regards to the media...they were perfectly willing to tell us all about "Dolly" the sheep, you'd think they could AT LEAST refer to baby Connor by his name!

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Good point.

172 posted on 03/16/2005 12:57:41 PM PST by trisham
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To: wallcrawlr

I saw our local District Judge sentance a guy to death once. In Texas there is a direct appeal to the Court of Criminal Appeals in Austin and after losing it the Defendant is formally sentanced to death. As a public spectacle it fell somewhat flat as the judge rattled off the words in the same rapid fire monotone he used to grant uncontested divorces swear in witnesses.


173 posted on 03/16/2005 12:58:15 PM PST by Pilsner
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To: Bluegrass Conservative
Could your children change their names if they wanted to? They do it all the time. Their friends do it too. You did it when you chose Bluegrass Conservative.

It's a pity some folks are hung up on government approval of even the smallest details of their lives. But, the fact remains, people are who they are. No guns needed, and the government can call people whatever they want. Free people can answer if they choose.

And the media is free to call Connor by his name. And the grandparents are free to bury their murdered grandchild and put a head stone on his grave with his name on it.

Connor was alive, now he is dead. His father murdered him and has no remorse. He will burn in hell if there is fire there.

174 posted on 03/16/2005 1:01:58 PM PST by Protagoras (If the Republican Party enacts a new tax they will be out of power for at least a generation)
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To: Protagoras
They do it all the time. Their friends do it too. You did it when you chose Bluegrass Conservative.

That may be true. But the courts no more recognize me as "Bluegrass Conservative" than they recognize this fetus as "Connor Peterson." A judicial system HAS to be built upon some standards. The standard that our's uses in regards to names is that you are the name on your birth certificate, provided there is not official court documents stating you have had that changed.

And the media is free to call Connor by his name. And the grandparents are free to bury their murdered grandchild and put a head stone on his grave with his name on it.

Yes, I know the media is free to do so. But they are also free to call him "fetus" if they choose and should not be criticized for doing so. And of course the grandparents are free to bury him and put his "name" on the stone. It would be fitting and proper for them to do so. Connor was alive, now he is dead. His father murdered him and has no remorse.

Laci Peterson was pregnant and had a fetus living inside her because of her physical support. A jury believed Scott Peterson killed Laci, and in turn cut off all support to the fetus, rendering it dead as well. If Scott Peterson is truly guilty of these crimes (and I believe he is), he will indeed burn in hell (if there is fire there).

175 posted on 03/16/2005 1:12:22 PM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: Bluegrass Conservative

Nice try on all that. Connor was an unborn person. The people who love abortion murder call such people fetuses. They can kiss my ass.


176 posted on 03/16/2005 1:17:32 PM PST by Protagoras (If the Republican Party enacts a new tax they will be out of power for at least a generation)
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To: Protagoras
The people who love abortion murder call such people fetuses.

That may be true, but they are accurate in this case. The proper scientific term is fetus.

177 posted on 03/16/2005 1:23:17 PM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: Bluegrass Conservative
Well, you can't officially have a name unless you have a birth certificate. And you can't have a birth certificate if you haven't been born. So, I guess technically, "fetus" is the proper term in this case.

It's so sad, all those generations of nameless people born before the creation of birth certificates.

I heard that everyone just went around as "hey you" back then.
178 posted on 03/16/2005 1:25:21 PM PST by Zechariah_8_13 (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: Zechariah_8_13

See Post #117


179 posted on 03/16/2005 1:27:03 PM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: Bluegrass Conservative
Legalisms and scientific terms don't mean a damn thing to me. Real things mean things, not technicalities.

Murder lovers like the term fetus. I have nothing further on this subject, goodbye.

180 posted on 03/16/2005 1:32:04 PM PST by Protagoras (If the Republican Party enacts a new tax they will be out of power for at least a generation)
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To: Protagoras
Legalisms and scientific terms don't mean a damn thing to me. Real things mean things, not technicalities.

There ARE real differences between such things as zygotes, embryos, fetuses and babies. To ignore those differences proves your ignorance.

181 posted on 03/16/2005 1:35:05 PM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: Bluegrass Conservative
That may be true, but they are accurate in this case. The proper scientific term is fetus.

So if I point to a tree in my backyard, and call it an Oak, are you going to tell me that it's not an Oak, it's a Quercus alba, and they're not the same thing?

When's the last time you went to a "Fetus Shower"?
182 posted on 03/16/2005 1:36:12 PM PST by Zechariah_8_13 (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: Zechariah_8_13
So if I point to a tree in my backyard, and call it an Oak, are you going to tell me that it's not an Oak, it's a Quercus alba, and they're not the same thing?

If it were in court and there was a question of what type of oak it was, yes, I would want the proper scientific name put down in the court records. Just as, if it were in court and there was a question of what stage of human development the victim was in, I would want it specified as a "fetus", not "Connor".

When's the last time you went to a "Fetus Shower"?

Just as things have different connotations in religious and secular contexts, they do so in legan and lay contexts as well. Of course it would be proper to have a "baby" shower, but it would not be proper for this victim to be referred to as a "baby" in the court proceedings. He was not. He was a fetus.

183 posted on 03/16/2005 1:41:32 PM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
"...Makes my day...."

Mine, too. Poor wittle Scotty won't be seeing many of these UNOBSTRUCTED views where he's headed.

Scott, meet Bubba, he'll be your "tour guide" for the rest of your miserable existence.
184 posted on 03/16/2005 1:43:40 PM PST by NCC-1701 (ISLAM IS A CULT, PURE AND SIMPLE!!!!! IT MUST BE ERADICATED FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH.)
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To: Zivasmate

To put this into perspective, I'll go out on a limb and state that the New Orleans Saints will win their first Super Bowl before this POS is executed.


185 posted on 03/16/2005 1:50:15 PM PST by NCC-1701 (ISLAM IS A CULT, PURE AND SIMPLE!!!!! IT MUST BE ERADICATED FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH.)
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To: Bluegrass Conservative; My Favorite Headache

<< One day the fetus is known as Connor and the next it is known as fetus. I love the media.

Well, you can't officially have a name unless you have a birth certificate. And you can't have a birth certificate if you haven't been born. So, I guess technically, "fetus" is the proper term in this case. >>

Rubbish.

That's the Billion-Dollar aborttoir-industry's term.

Unborn Baby are the American words for the second Human being he is convicted of slaughtering.


186 posted on 03/16/2005 1:57:06 PM PST by Brian Allen (I fly and can therefore be envious of no man -- Per Ardua ad Astra!)
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To: All

You know, it just occurred to me -- although I hate mixing two threads -- the way the law is set up, it appears that Scott Peterson is entitled to at least 20 more years of food while they struggle with appeals..... but Terri Schiavo is about to be starved to death. How's that for a real mind-boggler!


187 posted on 03/16/2005 1:57:22 PM PST by awakened (The evidence of God's existence far outweighs the proof of His absence.)
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To: Brian Allen
Unborn Baby are the American words for the second Human being he is convicted of slaughtering.

Just to the ignorant masses that don't understand that is what a fetus is.

188 posted on 03/16/2005 1:58:17 PM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: wallcrawlr

To bad he will die of old age before they flip the switch.

Its California. Home sweet Home. sigh.


189 posted on 03/16/2005 1:59:51 PM PST by FeliciaCat
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To: wallcrawlr
Good, can I participate in pulling the switch in 30 years when they finally get around to it?

Just another drag on California's economy keeping this jerk alive until he's collecting Social Security (or not...but that's another thread.)

190 posted on 03/16/2005 2:05:44 PM PST by hattend (Liberals! Beware the Perfect Rovian Storm [All Hail the Evil War Monkey King, Chimpus Khan!])
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To: NCC-1701

"To put this into perspective, I'll go out on a limb and state that the New Orleans Saints will win their first Super Bowl before this POS is executed."

What do you think will happen first, his execution or the return of the National Hockey league?

What do you think will happen first, his execution or Archie Manning's grandson getting drafted as a Quarterback?

What do you think will happen first, his execution or ESPN rehiring Rush Limbaugh?


191 posted on 03/16/2005 2:07:05 PM PST by Zivasmate (" A wise man's heart inclines him to his right, but a fool's heart to his left." - Ecclesiastes 10)
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To: pissant

I'll die long before this bottom feeding pond scum does. too bad, I'd love to see his face before they pull the plug or whatever they do to make sure the killers don't suffer these days.


192 posted on 03/16/2005 2:11:56 PM PST by ariamne (reformed liberal--Shieldmaiden of the Infidel)
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To: pissant

Thank God, Justice has been served! My pick is 2099,yep, thats a pretty weird number, but it wont happen before then, at least in California! Now, lets arrest Michael Schiavo for multiple Attempted Murder Attacks! He deserves some time within the Walls. They will have a good time with him when the guys find out what he did to his " Wife."


193 posted on 03/16/2005 2:12:51 PM PST by True Republican Patriot
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To: ariamne

He is a sociopath like Hannibal Lecter. The best thing for these people is permanent removal from the earth for the protection of the rest of the human race.


194 posted on 03/16/2005 2:13:57 PM PST by cyborg
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To: Zivasmate

Just taking a wild guess but perhaps the latter of each question will take place first. Just speculation, mind you.


195 posted on 03/16/2005 2:14:15 PM PST by NCC-1701 (ISLAM IS A CULT, PURE AND SIMPLE!!!!! IT MUST BE ERADICATED FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH.)
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To: cyborg

Absolutely spot on. I've seen sharks eyes reflect more emotion. This guy is definitely narcissistic sociopath with no moral compass whatsoever. Doesn't matter if he was born that way or grew into it. These kind of people are dangerously defective and do not rehabilitate. They enjoy taking risks and enjoy what they are. Other people do not exist for them except for what they can use them for. Out out damn scott.


196 posted on 03/16/2005 2:22:38 PM PST by ariamne (reformed liberal--Shieldmaiden of the Infidel)
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To: rockabyebaby

Yes, his name is Connor. And...the MSM name is jackass.


197 posted on 03/16/2005 2:24:01 PM PST by cubreporter (I trust and admire Rush. He has done more for this country than he will ever know. God bless him.)
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To: Bluegrass Conservative
"...you can't officially have a name unless you have a birth certificate. And you can't have a birth certificate if you haven't been born. So, I guess technically, "fetus" is the proper term in this case."

So sayeth the State. This "well-reasoned" argument affirms the totality of your indoctrination. Congratulations.

198 posted on 03/16/2005 2:24:03 PM PST by Orbiter
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To: hattend

no, but make sure you turn off your lights that day so there is extra "juice" flowing through him.


199 posted on 03/16/2005 2:25:14 PM PST by wallcrawlr (www.bionicear.com)
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To: Bluegrass Conservative

oh well then, I guess you are right then. NOT!


200 posted on 03/16/2005 2:25:36 PM PST by cubreporter (I trust and admire Rush. He has done more for this country than he will ever know. God bless him.)
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