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Mexican president announces initiative for North American cooperation
Fort Worth Star-Telegram/AP ^ | March 16, 2005 | John Rice

Posted on 03/16/2005 1:45:46 PM PST by La Enchiladita

MEXICO CITY - The leaders of the United States, Mexico and Canada, confronting the growth of rival groups in Europe and Asia, hope to strengthen their free-trade pact by signing an "Initiative for North America" next week in Texas, Mexico President Vicente Fox said Wednesday.

But Fox made clear that tensions remain over how to secure the countries' borders, criticizing new U.S. walls running along parts of its 2,000-mile frontier with Mexico. "No country that is proud of itself should build walls," he said.

Fox, President Bush and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin are scheduled to meet March 23 at Bush's Crawford, Texas, ranch during Bush's Easter vacation.

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Speaking at a news conference with U.S. and Canadian reporters, Fox vowed to take legal action against migrant-hunting vigilantes in Arizona and promised to fight terrorism.

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But in both Spanish and English, Fox repeatedly expressed concern about state initiatives to limit rights of migrants and services for them in the United States, and about the U.S. government's effort to slow migration by building walls.

"We are convinced that walls don't work. They should be torn down," Fox said. He called the walls "discriminatory; they attack liberty. So no country that is proud of itself should build walls. Nobody can isolate himself these days."

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He said Mexicans "totally reject" the migrant hunters recently formed in Arizona to help stem the illegal crossings there, which have risen partly because of the construction of walls elsewhere. The vigilantes "are completely in violation of American law itself and in violation of laws anywhere," Fox said.

He said Mexico "will be very alert to react legally against any lawbreaking" by those groups, either under U.S. or international law.

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TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Colorado; US: Florida; US: New Mexico; US: Texas; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; bush43; freetrade; illegal; immigration; minuteman; minutemanproject; neighbors; northamerica; paulmartin; prairiechapel; trade; vicentefox; vigilance
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How about that? Another country's president telling us that it is illegal for us to show patriotism? That we have no right to protest the criminal activities of his citizens within our borders?

Join me in praying that our President does not make any statements denouncing our patriots at this March 23 meeting.

1 posted on 03/16/2005 1:45:46 PM PST by La Enchiladita
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To: La Enchiladita
"No country that is proud of itself should build walls," he said.

He's absolutely correct! All in favor of building electrified fences instead, raise your hands! :-)

2 posted on 03/16/2005 1:48:37 PM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: La Enchiladita
"No country that is proud of itself should build walls," he said.

Priceless. From the only world leader who prides himself on his policy of exporting his own people.

3 posted on 03/16/2005 1:49:07 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Bluegrass Conservative

LOL


4 posted on 03/16/2005 1:49:18 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: La Enchiladita


Why don't we just annex Mexico. The good ole days of imperialism.


6 posted on 03/16/2005 1:49:50 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( CONSERVATIVE FIRST-Republican second.)
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To: Shermy


Mexico needs to drastically reform.


7 posted on 03/16/2005 1:50:15 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( CONSERVATIVE FIRST-Republican second.)
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To: La Enchiladita

This wacko Fox guy has it all wrong--he is the President of MEXICO, not the USA, and we do not have to listen to him and I am furious that he thinks he can---

"No country that is proud of itself builds walls"...hmm, could be a reference to Israel...so he could also be anti-semitic, but even if he isn't---

isn't there a saying about "fences make for good neighbors" or something like that?


8 posted on 03/16/2005 1:50:16 PM PST by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Chief Justice!)
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To: Shermy

Not-so-veiled anti-semitism.....


9 posted on 03/16/2005 1:50:21 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: La Enchiladita
"No country that is proud of itself should build walls," he [Fox] said."

Give me a F'n break! Too angry for words.

10 posted on 03/16/2005 1:51:12 PM PST by drt1
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To: Shermy
From the only world leader who prides himself on his policy of exporting his own people.

Wouldn't you if you were Fox? It's not exactly the contributing members to the Mexican economy that are fleeing. It would be like us being able to drop off the folks on our welfare roles in the laps of Canada. All in favor, raise your hands! :-)

11 posted on 03/16/2005 1:51:22 PM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: LauraleeBraswell

It would be too much of a drag on the rest of the country....not unlike taking on Puerto Rico.


13 posted on 03/16/2005 1:51:35 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: La Enchiladita

Typical ass Roach mentality!! Maybe stems from an inferiority complex initiated a long time ago from when the British kept hitting them on the head and taking all their gold.


14 posted on 03/16/2005 1:52:31 PM PST by Fast1 (Destroy America buy Chinese goods,Shop at Wal-Mart)
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To: La Enchiladita

"Good fences make good neighbors." -Robert Frost


15 posted on 03/16/2005 1:52:54 PM PST by TXBSAFH (Never underestimate the power of human stupidity--Robert Heinlein)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Mexico needs to drastically reform.

Did I hear someone say "reform"? Give me a few minutes and I'll drag out the ole pie charts again!


16 posted on 03/16/2005 1:54:15 PM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: drt1
Too angry for words.

Too bad. I haven't heard a good string of blue language (other than my own) since Veteran's Day when I got together with some of my old buddies.

18 posted on 03/16/2005 1:54:33 PM PST by An Old Marine (Freedom isn't Free)
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To: Bluegrass Conservative
He's absolutely correct! All in favor of building electrified fences instead, raise your hands! :-)

No a waste of energy. Put two fences with large rather hungery dogs in between. A little barbed wire would not hurt either.
19 posted on 03/16/2005 1:54:59 PM PST by TXBSAFH (Never underestimate the power of human stupidity--Robert Heinlein)
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To: TXBSAFH
No a waste of energy. Put two fences with large rather hungery dogs in between. A little barbed wire would not hurt either.

Think creatively! We still electrify, but sell the naming rights to the highest bidding company!


20 posted on 03/16/2005 1:57:13 PM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: La Enchiladita
"No country that is proud of itself should build walls," he said.

The walls that we're buidling - and there's not nearly enough of them, imo - are not designed to keep people jailed within (like the Berlin Wall), they're meant to keep (certain) people out.

This very important distinction seems to be lost on many.

21 posted on 03/16/2005 1:57:53 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Mexico needs to drastically reform.

Some others -- and liberals, at that! -- agree with you.

http://www.international.ucla.edu/article.asp?parentid=21863

Check out no trial by jury in Mexico.

22 posted on 03/16/2005 1:58:14 PM PST by La Enchiladita (formerly known as Kilo Lima)
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To: TXBSAFH; Txsleuth

Mending Wall by Robert Frost:

http://www.writing.upenn.edu/~afilreis/88/frost-mending.html


23 posted on 03/16/2005 1:58:27 PM PST by drt1
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To: La Enchiladita; All; OXENinFLA

I just heard on C-span 2 that the Senate will be voting on an amendment having to do with Border control tonight after 7:00--the Hutchison/Ensign amendment--

I have no idea what it is about--I just heard the schedule--

I will try to find out from OXEN IN FLA


24 posted on 03/16/2005 1:58:33 PM PST by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Chief Justice!)
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To: La Enchiladita; 7.62 x 51mm

But Fox made clear that tensions remain over how to secure the countries' borders, criticizing new U.S. walls running along parts of its 2,000-mile frontier with Mexico. "No country that is proud of itself should build walls," he said.


how proud is the country where all of its citizens are willing to die to get out?


25 posted on 03/16/2005 1:58:58 PM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: La Enchiladita

Someone needs to put a muzzle on this POS and President Bush had better realize his stance on the immigration issue is completely out of step with the majority of Americans and can only hurt the Republican party AND OUR NATION.


26 posted on 03/16/2005 1:59:28 PM PST by Dad2Angels
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To: drt1

That is what I was thinking of.


27 posted on 03/16/2005 2:00:17 PM PST by TXBSAFH (Never underestimate the power of human stupidity--Robert Heinlein)
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To: TXBSAFH; ambrose
Put two fences with large rather hungery dogs in between

Put our nation's Pit Bulls to good use.

28 posted on 03/16/2005 2:00:55 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: La Enchiladita

"We are convinced that walls don't work. They should be torn down," Fox said.


How about the immigration wall you put on your southern border Fox? Your leadership is a failure. You export your poor - you loser.


29 posted on 03/16/2005 2:02:26 PM PST by demlosers (We win. They lose. USA number 1 ! IYAAYAS !)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Why don't we just annex Mexico.

Great idea! That way the immigrants don't have to "come" to America, because they would already be "here"! ;^)

30 posted on 03/16/2005 2:03:37 PM PST by Disambiguator
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To: An Old Marine
LOL - But at least there you didn't have a Mod waiting to ban you. This Immigration thing along with our crappy trade Policies get me in the 'Blue Steak' mood all too often these day. :-)
31 posted on 03/16/2005 2:05:14 PM PST by drt1
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To: La Enchiladita
Join me in praying that our President does not make any statements denouncing our patriots at this March 23 meeting.

If he does I would predict that his administration just for all practicality ended.

32 posted on 03/16/2005 2:14:55 PM PST by Digger
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To: La Enchiladita

My response to el presidente:

Hey Senor Fox, instead of worrying about what we do in the US, why don't you worry about improving the cesspool of a country you're running so that maybe half your population won't feel the need to flee. Think you could try that for a while?
With great weather, coasts on 2 oceans, and huge amounts of natural resources, there is absolutely no reason why your people's economic standing should rest solely on the continued raping of another country. If this is the best you can do with an ideally located potential goldmine of a country than maybe you should step aside and let us run it for you.

Sincerly,
el Gringo Loco


34 posted on 03/16/2005 2:16:28 PM PST by frankiep
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To: Digger

Amen!


35 posted on 03/16/2005 2:16:32 PM PST by Fast1 (Destroy America buy Chinese goods,Shop at Wal-Mart)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Why don't we just annex Mexico.

I keep pointing this out, but we already did annex the whole of the northern half of Mexico after the Mexican-American War:


36 posted on 03/16/2005 2:17:44 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: La Enchiladita
And just how does Vincente Fox treat illegals who sneak across Mexico's southern border? Why is this never reported?
37 posted on 03/16/2005 2:19:27 PM PST by Truth29
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To: La Enchiladita

Fox is scum.

The President better tread very carefully at that meeting.


38 posted on 03/16/2005 2:22:14 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: anniegetyourgun
..........not unlike taking on Puerto Rico.

At least Puerto Rico contributes a few good MLB players now and then. What does Mexico contribute that is of any significance?

39 posted on 03/16/2005 2:22:55 PM PST by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: Digger
Join me in praying that our President does not make any statements denouncing our patriots at this March 23 meeting.

If he does I would predict that his administration just for all practicality ended.

Only in your dreams. Most voters do not allow a single issue to effect how they vote or who they support. History has shown that single issue candidates rarely win national elections or gather much support. I guess that is why Pat Buchanan is down in the ash heap of political has-beens where he belongs has the only thing he could run on was immigration and never got more than a fraction of the vote.

40 posted on 03/16/2005 2:23:14 PM PST by COEXERJ145
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To: La Enchiladita; All

Related thread:

"Joint security perimeter for North America by 2010: report"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1362884/posts


41 posted on 03/16/2005 2:25:04 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: Truth29
It's no just Illegals on Mexico's Southern Border that demonstrates the hypocrisy of this Weasel. Ever try importing something into Mexico - Something that isn't for assembly and re-export back to us that is?
42 posted on 03/16/2005 2:27:02 PM PST by drt1
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To: Shermy
P>He isBut Fox made clear that tensions remain over how to secure the countries' borders, criticizing new U.S. walls running along parts of its 2,000-mile frontier with Mexico. "No country that is proud of itself should build walls," he said.

Mr. Bush, listen up this guy is a liar and a cheat and is up to no good.

He is attempting to use you like a crutch and will succeed if you are wooed by his siren song.

There is nothing to be gained by these "good old boy meetings" and is sure to only engender less respect for this nation as the world sits by and observes our leader being hornswaggled by this peon president and are laughing up their sleeve that a cheap carney schill like Fox is able to achieve by his mouthings and worthless threats what the rest of the world and the U.N. cannot accomplish through all the efforts of their sophisticated world class thugs and thieves!

Mr. Bush why don't you just forego this meeting, go fishing and in so doing benefit us all?

43 posted on 03/16/2005 2:39:40 PM PST by VOYAGER
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To: All
"No country that is proud of itself builds walls"...

PRIDE has NOTHING to do with it, SAFETY does!

44 posted on 03/16/2005 2:45:59 PM PST by jackibutterfly
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To: COEXERJ145

You said..."I guess that is why Pat Buchanan is down in the ash heap of political has-beens where he belongs..."

Im so glad you brought up Pat. He shall rise again....in 2007!

Pat is running again in 2007, on a new party ticket...
The Merricun Zeenaphabe Party

It was founded by Pat, David Duke, and the brother in law of Terry Nichols former mailman.

Pat in 2007!


45 posted on 03/16/2005 2:47:24 PM PST by Dat Mon (will work for clever tagline)
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To: La Enchiladita
(Excerpt) Read more at dfw.com ...

No thank you!

Join me in praying that our President does not make any statements denouncing our patriots at this March 23 meeting.

Would that be President Fox or President Bush? It's getting hard for me to tell who's who these days.

46 posted on 03/16/2005 3:22:14 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: VOYAGER

He is attempting to use you like a crutch and will succeed if you are wooed by his siren song.
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** AND SO FAR, HE HAS PLAYED BUSH LIKE A FIDDLE **

..who in turn, is making the U.S. citizen PAY FOR ALL OF IT, and watch the DEMOGRAPHICS OF OUR COUNTRY DESTROYED, watch the meaning of U.S. CITIZENSHIP made into a mockery, watch the meaning of our SYSTEM OF LAWS laughed at, and watch our BORDERS become token lines on a map....


47 posted on 03/16/2005 3:26:42 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: varon
What does Mexico contribute that is of any significance?

Drugs, thugs and slugs.

48 posted on 03/16/2005 3:33:58 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Why don't we just annex Mexico.

Because then we'd have responsibility for ALL the Mexicans, not just the ones that have made it across the putative border.

49 posted on 03/16/2005 4:14:40 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: La Enchiladita; Jim Robinson

But Fox made clear that tensions remain over how to secure the countries' borders, criticizing new U.S. walls running along parts of its 2,000-mile frontier with Mexico. "No country that is proud of itself should build walls," he said.

>>>

Can we invade Mexico and do some nation building/Homeland Security things here at home now??

BTW, Jim: my humblest and most sincere condolences on your recent loss. Our prayers are with your family.


50 posted on 03/16/2005 4:54:13 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (I just took a Muhammad and wiped my Jihadist with Mein Koran...come and get me nutbags.)
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