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DEATH IN ATLANTA AND GENDER SAMENESS IN THE HAPPY LAND OF MAKEBELIEVE (Don Feder Alert)
DonFeder.com ^ | 03/17/05 | Don Feder

Posted on 03/18/2005 3:00:53 AM PST by goldstategop

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To: ken5050

...don't want no short people here.....


21 posted on 03/18/2005 4:25:42 AM PST by Route101
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To: alienken
Yes people get hung up on the gender but we need to focus on the size.A short man is just as much a problem as small women....More women use their guns more causing more fatalities which adds to the problem.

Yep - and that went out the window in order to include women; many jobs, where physical strength/endurance was an issue, used to have standards of height too - but, alas, there are more men that top 5'6" than women, so that had to go out the window...

23 posted on 03/18/2005 4:33:09 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: conservative auto worker; Admin Moderator

If this was Freepmail..or your e-daay, contact the admin moderator..someone needs to be suspended..


24 posted on 03/18/2005 4:36:06 AM PST by ken5050 (The Dem party is as dead as the NHL)
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To: goldstategop

I have a hundred stories about Female Firefighters. Some of them not fit to tell. I will let you in on this one. A ssceretary at Fire headquarters applied to be a Firefighter. The difference in pay was thousands of dollars more than she was making as a secretary. She was appointed as a Firefighter.She went through the Training academy and was assigned to a Company. As time went on she soon discovered that Firefighting is a pretty tough job and she couldnt cut it,shw ent off sick with an injury and was assigned to light duties. Guess where? Thats right she is now right back with her old secretarial job, only now she is earning a Firefighters pay, and the Company Captain is glad to see her there.


25 posted on 03/18/2005 4:39:28 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: ran15

Bump


26 posted on 03/18/2005 4:48:52 AM PST by mother22wife21 (Walking into a Gang War wearing plaid is dangerous, you're bound to be wearing offending colors)
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To: goldstategop
The irony of all these shenanigans is that the juvenile behavior of the participants and the faux, "in your face" immaturity of their events, only reinforces the stereotype that grown women are child like and need only a strong man to help them cope.
Now, if the organizers of these theaters of the absurd were to have the courage to schedule events that protested the treatment of women under Sharia Law and risk the resulting death threats from the Islamofascists, then I might have some respect for their activities. As it is, they preach only to the converted while making sure that they themselves run no real risk of, God forbid, physical harm.
Society today is overflowing with "poseurs" who hold views which are designed merely to offend onlookers and attract attention to themselves while trying to present a phony image as some sort of radical.
27 posted on 03/18/2005 4:56:43 AM PST by finnigan2
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To: alienken
A short man is just as much a problem as small women.

While I agree in general, there are some exceptions.

Here's a few 'short men' that were pretty bad people in 'their day'.



and last but certainly not least


A very 'short' War Hero

And back in the 'old hood' the baddest guy was Dave ****, who stood a whole whooping 5'-7" - IN cowboy boots. Then there was this guy who rode in our MC club for a while - "Animal". He was about 5'-5" or 5'-6" tops (I think he eventually died in Joliet?). He'd kill you as soon as look at you, hence his nickname.

So no offense but stature isn't exactly everything for a guy.

28 posted on 03/18/2005 5:04:16 AM PST by Condor51 (Leftists are moral and intellectual parasites - Standing Wolf)
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To: goldstategop; All
Excellent article. Thanks for posting it. My only criticism is that Feder plays into the hands of the feminists and homosexual activists by using the term "gender" where he actually means sex.

Gender is a linguistic term (e.g. in French where words may be masculine or feminism) rather than a biological one. Leftists like this term because gender may be "constructed" (i.e. made to mean whatever you wish, which is where the notion of "transgendered" comes from), whereas sex is unavoidably biological.

Words matter, so conservatives who want to fight the good fight and win should avoid misusing the word gender when they really mean sex.

29 posted on 03/18/2005 5:04:22 AM PST by Law ("For the wisdom of this world is folly with God..." 1 Cor 3:19)
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To: alienken; goldstategop
"A short man.."

Yup. Back when I wanted to be a cop, I did not meet the minimum height requirement. Nowadays I can look at the tops of many cop's heads.

30 posted on 03/18/2005 6:16:47 AM PST by Designer
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To: goldstategop
Actually, the six foot Nichols and the five foot deputy were evenly matched. Each weighed over 200 pounds.
31 posted on 03/18/2005 6:50:53 AM PST by Malesherbes
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To: goldstategop

Although you are correct that women and men are different and cannot do the same things and should not in many instances. This case is quite different and has several other flaws that would have hampered "anyone" from doing the job, male or female.
First, the man was known to be a problem but according to the law he could not be handcuffed and had to change into street clothing. To do this the deputy, following orders, puts her gun in a locked drawer and then uncuffs him so he can change clothes. At this point, considering the guy knew martial arts and there is no gun, he could have taken on a man the same size as him. Second, there was no one else with her, my husband is a deputy and he will tell you that in those cases, two people should be guarding this guy, (as they are doing now only after he has wrecked havoc on Atlanta). Third, no one was watching the camera that was in place to help in the event of trouble(supposedly a safety net). And finally, the judge had asked for extra protection the day before but the sheriff or the powers in charge felt it okay to put only one person(and yes I say person considering the protocol of not having the guy cuffed at some point and his history) on this guy. This case, in my opinion, is a case of total ineptitude at the top and policy makers that are concerned about cuddling the criminal.
I cannot place the blame on this lady for the evil and mistakes of the perp and her bosses and policymakers.


32 posted on 03/18/2005 7:28:14 AM PST by rave123
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To: rave123
I cannot place the blame on this lady

I agree with you.

It wasn't her fault that she was sent to do a man's job and couldn't do it.

Pretty simple, really.

33 posted on 03/18/2005 7:59:36 AM PST by Republic If You Can Keep It
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To: Republic If You Can Keep It

No she was sent to do a job and was hamperd by inefficiencies. And it is not simple it is very complex.


34 posted on 03/18/2005 8:09:37 AM PST by rave123
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To: Condor51
I'm 5'7". That's average. I'm not exactly a short guy. Although I concede I'm not tall either. I don't tower over people.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
35 posted on 03/18/2005 8:46:51 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: rave123
If a man punches a woman in the face, its not a question of "inefficiencies"; its a question of relative strength. That's why we don't allow co-ed sports competitions. Men are much stronger than women and few women can beat a man when it comes to muscle mass. In other areas, quite possibly. But not when comes to throwing one's weight around.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
36 posted on 03/18/2005 8:50:26 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: rave123
Must be nice there, in the fuzzy-wuzzy ever-happy Land of Make-Believe.

"Hampered by inefficiencies" is the same nonsense espoused by socialists, who believe that wonderful pure communism could work, if only it was not "hampered by inefficiencies" the next time it is tried.

(Inefficiencies like that perpetual bugaboo, "human nature.")

37 posted on 03/18/2005 9:00:27 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: goldstategop
Imagaine the spectacle if NFL teams were ordered to field 2 or 3 women on every play.

They would be carried off on stretchers in a short time.

I wonder why the feminazis don't "demand" that the NFL apply affirmative action and quotas for women players?

Because even they know that physical reality would make the experiment a disaster when it came to crunch time.

38 posted on 03/18/2005 9:04:22 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: goldstategop
***I'm 5'7". That's average. I'm not exactly a short guy. Although I concede I'm not tall either. I don't tower over people.***

No - I agree. 5'-7" isn't exactly 'small'.

But the guy I was referring to was 5'-7" with boots on which had 1 1/2" heels. So he was like 5'-5 1/2". That's pretty 'small' for being the baddest guy in the neighborhood - which he definitely was. (he was the 'original Fonz')

An aside, Cowboy boots were great for starting the 'old' Harley XLCH as you never slipped off the kick starter do to the heel ("engineer boots" were passe' and too heavy anyway). And the pointy toe came in handy during a fight (why am I still alive? LOL).

39 posted on 03/18/2005 9:06:38 AM PST by Condor51 (Leftists are moral and intellectual parasites - Standing Wolf)
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To: goldstategop
Despite the manifest absurdity of assigning Thumbelina to guard King Kong, thanks to feminist lobbying and a judiciary bent on gender equality at any cost, physical standards increasingly are obsolete in determining who wears a badge and carries a gun.

I was absolutely APPALLED when I read that Nichols only had this one police officer guarding him, and that she was smaller than he! This is NUTS! There should have been two police officers with him at all times, especially in light of the fact that at one point his handcuffs were going to be removed. I'm frankly surprised he didn't kill her too!

40 posted on 03/18/2005 9:07:48 AM PST by SuziQ
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