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China has right to restore territorial integrity - Putin
Interfax ^ | 18MAR05 | Interfax

Posted on 03/18/2005 5:12:30 PM PST by familyop

PARIS. March 18 (Interfax) - Russian President Vladimir Putin confirmed Russia's support for the idea of China's territorial integrity.

"The Soviet Union and Russia have always been in favor of China's territorial integrity. We have not changed our position and think that China has a right to fully restore its territorial integrity. We understand the Chinese authorities' efforts to resolve this problem," Putin told a press conference in Paris on Friday.

"We assume this problem will be resolved by peaceful methods," Putin said.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: china; communist; expansionism; fascist; indianocean; ocean; proliferation; putin; russia; strait; subterfuge; tactical; taiwan
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Well, everyone, including Putin, knows for sure that Taiwan is not going to give up her long-term, de facto freedom, sovereignty and form of government without a fight, so...
1 posted on 03/18/2005 5:12:30 PM PST by familyop
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To: All

Also of interest...

Russia army chief: against any form of "Taiwan Independence" activities
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1365243/posts

US House slams Anti-Secession Law [US Policy on China.]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1365740/posts


2 posted on 03/18/2005 5:15:56 PM PST by familyop (Essayons!)
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To: familyop

Russia must say and establish this possition, because if Russia ever wants to retake old areas in the future, this must be their view now and consistantly in the future.

Years from now, we might see Russia trying to retake old coutries they had before.
This may be a little wake up call to us all regarding Russia.


3 posted on 03/18/2005 5:21:48 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

Does Russia understand that China also claims (on good historical grounds) a very large chunk of the Russian far east?


4 posted on 03/18/2005 5:23:03 PM PST by CondorFlight
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To: familyop
I think, that in the end, Taiwan will reunite with mainland China. But it will be a long time from now when generations have forgotten the past.
I think that the beginning of a reunification will happen at the FINANCIAL and TRADE levels first. China might start making offers to Taiwan that it simply can't refuse. I envision MONEY being a factor in bribing the Taiwanese to buy lots of cheap land and get unlimited cheaper labor. I can see the Taiwanese government being BOUGHT...and them selling the idea of reunification to the people.

Promises of freedom and independence can always be made by anyone. Hong Kong hasn't fallen under the sickle yet....but it hasn't been long, has it?

Just a thought.

5 posted on 03/18/2005 5:25:34 PM PST by starfish923
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To: familyop
....Ukraine and _________ has right to restore territorial integrity - Putin?

....really

6 posted on 03/18/2005 5:25:54 PM PST by maestro
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To: CondorFlight

Yes, but Putin has other concerns. China isn't going to make a dash north anytime soon--they're headed everywhere but Siberia right now.

Besides, Putin won't be in office if the Chinese want another border war, so what does he care?


7 posted on 03/18/2005 5:27:20 PM PST by Terpfen (New Democrat Party motto: les enfant terribles)
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To: familyop
A place belongs to the people who live there. And Taiwan belongs to the Taiwanese regardless of what Pukin or the Chinese think.

And America will defend Taiwan.
8 posted on 03/18/2005 5:30:52 PM PST by Dan Evans
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To: familyop
Putin will undermine himself in Chechnya by claiming that Taiwan is a question of China's territorial integrity.

Just as we would not want Russia to support separatists in the US, we should not be supporting muslim separatists in Russia or China, but Putin should not equate Chechnya with Taiwan.

He is doing so because he wants to justify keeping Russian troops deployed in places outside the Russian borders, such as Georgia and Moldova, which used to be part of the Soviet empire.

9 posted on 03/18/2005 5:40:11 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: CondorFlight

Are we going to be pulled into a silly-assed school yard fight by the playground bullies, China and Russia?
This whole thing is a childish prank staged by our so-called friends.

The arrogant Chinese understand how stupid we are judging by how we have ignored their complicity in the WOT. This is just more of the same manipulation.


10 posted on 03/18/2005 5:47:46 PM PST by CBart95
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To: Dan Evans
And America will defend Taiwan.

Should defend Taiwan. Definately should defend Taiwan!

11 posted on 03/18/2005 5:53:30 PM PST by Archon of the East (The Constitution is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: familyop

I agree completely in the one-China policy. The mainland is a renegade province of the Republic of China government on Taiwan and should surrender at once.


12 posted on 03/18/2005 5:55:14 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: Dan Evans
" and America will defend Taiwan"

I think that's that's the bottom line. For the immediate future it's not likely China will try out it's fledgling navy against ours in a cross the straits move. But who knows what the future will bring.

IMHO Russian would try and take back everything it lost from when it was the old soviet union. But not China.
China would like the world. There is only one country and a handful of allies who can stop either of them.
13 posted on 03/18/2005 5:57:06 PM PST by rodguy911 (rodguy911:First Let's get rid of the UN and the ACLU,..toss in CAIR as well.)
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To: A CA Guy
This may be a little wake up call to us all regarding Russia.

Bump. I never fell asleep.

FMCDH(BITS)

14 posted on 03/18/2005 5:57:52 PM PST by nothingnew (There are two kinds of people; Decent and indecent.)
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To: nothingnew
Wakeup hell, has anything changed? Remember china and russia have to be judged like the clintons, actions over words.
15 posted on 03/18/2005 6:00:44 PM PST by rodguy911 (rodguy911:First Let's get rid of the UN and the ACLU,..toss in CAIR as well.)
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To: A CA Guy

My thoughts exactly


16 posted on 03/18/2005 6:03:48 PM PST by Laz711 (Fear is the Mind Killer)
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To: familyop
Okay, Validimir....how about the Mongols? Do you think they need the right to take a whack at their old territory?
17 posted on 03/18/2005 6:04:31 PM PST by pointsal
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To: familyop
Sounds very familiar.....
18 posted on 03/18/2005 6:06:28 PM PST by traumer
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To: CondorFlight

Dang, you beat me to it. I was going to say the exact same thing!


19 posted on 03/18/2005 6:17:24 PM PST by Edward Watson
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To: rodguy911
Wakeup hell, has anything changed?

Yeah...china got enormous nuclear info from klinton and we have enormous trade with both countries now, just to mention two things...as far as the two changing, no, nothing has changed as far as ideology, but their better off thanks to traitors in our country.

FMCDH(BITS)

20 posted on 03/18/2005 6:20:12 PM PST by nothingnew (There are two kinds of people; Decent and indecent.)
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To: rodguy911
"their"...jeeze...they're

This stuff gets me so PO'd I can't think sometimes...

FMCDH(BITS)

21 posted on 03/18/2005 6:27:13 PM PST by nothingnew (There are two kinds of people; Decent and indecent.)
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To: CondorFlight

I think Russia doesn't fear China in that way.
They share the politics of communism in some way and Russia can always start a big nuclear war with China, so there isn't too much worry of invasion.


22 posted on 03/18/2005 6:27:35 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: rodguy911; starfish923

Japan, India and Singapore are forming an alliance against China and probably many others will sign up. I doubt if China will be a credible military threat.

But, my fear is that Starfish is right, China may just buy the government of Taiwan. After all, they bought the Democratic National Committee during the Clinton administration. Politicians are cheap.

If so, then how do we deal with that?


23 posted on 03/18/2005 6:50:16 PM PST by Dan Evans
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To: CondorFlight
Does Russia understand that China also claims (on good historical grounds) a very large chunk of the Russian far east?

..and carried to its logical ends, RED CHINA could claim North/Central/South America according to folklore...of course, the West Coast Liberals eager to welcome them.

24 posted on 03/18/2005 6:53:54 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: starfish923
"Hong Kong hasn't fallen under the sickle yet..."

Yes, it has, in effect. I'll bring some info on that in a few.
25 posted on 03/18/2005 7:32:22 PM PST by familyop (Essayons!)
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To: starfish923

Here ya go.

China flaunts wish to control [Hong Kong]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1365927/posts


26 posted on 03/18/2005 7:46:38 PM PST by familyop (Essayons!)
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To: starfish923

And here's another.

Hong Kong leadership change worries U.S.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1365933/posts


27 posted on 03/18/2005 7:54:51 PM PST by familyop (Essayons!)
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To: CondorFlight
----Does Russia understand that China also claims (on good historical grounds) a very large chunk of the Russian far east?----

Mainland China's "historical" claim on the island of Taiwan is bogus. In modern history China actually had possession the the island for 18 years..

This has never been anything about a legitimate claim on the island. It is about "face". The loss of face that the freedom of the island represents; the Chinese that fled to the island not being under control of the ChiComs.

28 posted on 03/18/2005 7:58:41 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60's.....you weren't really there.)
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To: CondorFlight; ChildOfThe60s

Thanks for that fact, ChildOfThe60s. Learning history will keep us free. ...another thread of interest.

Putin reiterates support for China's stance on Taiwan issue [and for "high-tech" arms trade.]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1365902/posts


29 posted on 03/18/2005 8:15:41 PM PST by familyop (Essayons!)
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To: familyop

Let me amend that statement by saysing that I can't remember where I read it, but I do remember clearly thinking at the time that it was a reliable, legitimate reference.

I will do my research and see if I can find it again.


30 posted on 03/18/2005 8:49:45 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60's.....you weren't really there.)
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To: familyop

OK, I knew I had some solid justification for my statement [whew]:

Here is an article from the Asia Times by David Scofield, former lecturer at the Graduate Institute of Peace Studies, Kyung Hee University, is currently conducting post-graduate research at the School of East Asian Studies, University of Sheffield, United Kingdom:
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Korea/FH19Dg01.html

And this, New Taiwan, Ilha Formosa: The Website for Taiwan's History, Present, and Future:
http://www.taiwandc.org/hst-1624.htm


31 posted on 03/18/2005 9:09:48 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60's.....you weren't really there.)
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To: familyop

How about Tibet? Do they have the right to territorial integrity too?


32 posted on 03/18/2005 9:56:15 PM PST by thoughtomator (Sick already of premature speculation on the 2008 race)
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33 posted on 03/19/2005 2:28:48 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: familyop

The lines are being drawn.


34 posted on 03/19/2005 2:30:48 AM PST by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: familyop; Dan Evans
Thanks for the information.
I think the Hong Kong folks knew all along that this would happen. Thay ain't stupid and I don't think that many politicians bought the Beijing baloney. THEY were probably bought out LONG ago.

Cynical as it may sound, I think that as long as the fat cats (politicians, powerful businessmen and important, \powerful families) have their economic freedom and wealth, the rest of Hong Kong will just have to accept Beijing's rule.

Taiwan won't be too far behind.
Taiwan ain't no beacon of democracy, imho. Never was; never will be. Chang was as vicious, avaricious, power-hungry and corrupt as any general or fat cat on the mainland. He was SIMPLY not a communist. The commies PROBABLY didn't offer him enough money way back when he was "bribe-able."

Chang's wife, a model of his ilk, just passed away a while back. She was 104 and lived in UNABASHED wealth and luxury, with her army of body guards and nurse, in a New York City penthouse. She was Chang all over again. Again, it's all an opinion folks, just based on what I've read over the years.

35 posted on 03/19/2005 7:10:57 AM PST by starfish923
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To: A CA Guy
I think Russia doesn't fear China in that way. They share the politics of communism in some way and Russia can always start a big nuclear war with China, so there isn't too much worry of invasion.

I agree.
I think that China and the USSR always had this same kind of relationship. The Chinese realized, I think, a long while back that the Russians were as fearless and unafraid of losing THOUSANDS of soldies as they were. In essence, they knew that the Russians were as crazy as they were.

36 posted on 03/19/2005 7:13:51 AM PST by starfish923
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To: Grzegorz 246
I love the photo with Vlad in the BLUE Mao jacket. They got one to match his eyes. < sarcasm >
Putin is quite the diplomat.
Who is he with in the photo SECOND from the bottom?

I think that Dubya should invite Putin to the "ranch," put a Stetson on him and have a great photo op to add to this one.

37 posted on 03/19/2005 7:20:06 AM PST by starfish923
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To: Grzegorz 246
Forgot to ask: who is Putin gladhanding on the SEVENTH from the top photo? Looks like a dictator from South America.
Ah so many despots to visit, so little time.
38 posted on 03/19/2005 7:21:43 AM PST by starfish923
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To: starfish923

Looking closely at the second from the bottom, it looks like old man Hafiz Assad. But I may be wrong.


39 posted on 03/19/2005 7:23:06 AM PST by starfish923
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To: Grzegorz 246

Looking closely at the second from the bottom, it looks like old man Hafiz Assad. But I may be wrong.


40 posted on 03/19/2005 7:24:28 AM PST by starfish923
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To: starfish923
"Who is he with in the photo SECOND from the bottom?"

Mr President Alexander Lukashenko, a very wise leader of Belarus. Russia and Belarus are in union.



41 posted on 03/19/2005 8:43:30 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: starfish923
Yes, this is El Presidente Hugo Chavez - a very wise leader of Venezuela. Hugo and Vova like each other.



42 posted on 03/19/2005 8:48:01 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: starfish923

Mr Assad is the third from the bottom.


43 posted on 03/19/2005 8:50:37 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: Terpfen
Besides, Putin won't be in office if the Chinese want another border war, so what does he care?

I don't know about that. From what I've seen coming out of Russia lately, Putin is going to be in office until he is ready to leave, and the voters be damned.

44 posted on 03/19/2005 8:51:39 AM PST by CFC__VRWC
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To: starfish923
BTW look at this. A whole teem of losers.


45 posted on 03/19/2005 8:53:08 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: familyop

Putin wants to help set a precedent so he can invade the former "Republics" of the Soviet Socialist Republics and re-establish the old Commie regime.


46 posted on 03/19/2005 9:01:54 AM PST by hgro
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To: CFC__VRWC; Terpfen
Putin May Stay Beyond 2008
47 posted on 03/19/2005 9:09:33 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: Grzegorz 246

I know that is the YOUNGER Assad. The president of Belarus LOOKED like the old Hafiz Assad for a moment there. Just a faint resemblance.


48 posted on 03/19/2005 9:17:25 AM PST by starfish923
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To: Grzegorz 246
A whole team of losers? Lol.
You said that Hugo Chavez was a "wise leader" of Venezuela. I guess you didn't read today's latest, where the Wise One from Venezuela charged the U.S. with trying to kill him.
Thank you for all the photos and info on Putin. Are you an admirer of his? Just curious, don't mean to pry.
49 posted on 03/19/2005 9:19:48 AM PST by starfish923
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To: starfish923
"You said that Hugo Chavez was a "wise leader" of Venezuela."

Geez I wasn't serious.

BTW Zapatero looks like Mr Bean.
50 posted on 03/19/2005 9:29:44 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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