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China has right to restore territorial integrity - Putin
Interfax ^ | 18MAR05 | Interfax

Posted on 03/18/2005 5:12:30 PM PST by familyop

PARIS. March 18 (Interfax) - Russian President Vladimir Putin confirmed Russia's support for the idea of China's territorial integrity.

"The Soviet Union and Russia have always been in favor of China's territorial integrity. We have not changed our position and think that China has a right to fully restore its territorial integrity. We understand the Chinese authorities' efforts to resolve this problem," Putin told a press conference in Paris on Friday.

"We assume this problem will be resolved by peaceful methods," Putin said.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: china; communist; expansionism; fascist; indianocean; ocean; proliferation; putin; russia; strait; subterfuge; tactical; taiwan
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To: rodguy911
"their"...jeeze...they're

This stuff gets me so PO'd I can't think sometimes...

FMCDH(BITS)

21 posted on 03/18/2005 6:27:13 PM PST by nothingnew (There are two kinds of people; Decent and indecent.)
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To: CondorFlight

I think Russia doesn't fear China in that way.
They share the politics of communism in some way and Russia can always start a big nuclear war with China, so there isn't too much worry of invasion.


22 posted on 03/18/2005 6:27:35 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: rodguy911; starfish923

Japan, India and Singapore are forming an alliance against China and probably many others will sign up. I doubt if China will be a credible military threat.

But, my fear is that Starfish is right, China may just buy the government of Taiwan. After all, they bought the Democratic National Committee during the Clinton administration. Politicians are cheap.

If so, then how do we deal with that?


23 posted on 03/18/2005 6:50:16 PM PST by Dan Evans
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To: CondorFlight
Does Russia understand that China also claims (on good historical grounds) a very large chunk of the Russian far east?

..and carried to its logical ends, RED CHINA could claim North/Central/South America according to folklore...of course, the West Coast Liberals eager to welcome them.

24 posted on 03/18/2005 6:53:54 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: starfish923
"Hong Kong hasn't fallen under the sickle yet..."

Yes, it has, in effect. I'll bring some info on that in a few.
25 posted on 03/18/2005 7:32:22 PM PST by familyop (Essayons!)
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To: starfish923

Here ya go.

China flaunts wish to control [Hong Kong]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1365927/posts


26 posted on 03/18/2005 7:46:38 PM PST by familyop (Essayons!)
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To: starfish923

And here's another.

Hong Kong leadership change worries U.S.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1365933/posts


27 posted on 03/18/2005 7:54:51 PM PST by familyop (Essayons!)
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To: CondorFlight
----Does Russia understand that China also claims (on good historical grounds) a very large chunk of the Russian far east?----

Mainland China's "historical" claim on the island of Taiwan is bogus. In modern history China actually had possession the the island for 18 years..

This has never been anything about a legitimate claim on the island. It is about "face". The loss of face that the freedom of the island represents; the Chinese that fled to the island not being under control of the ChiComs.

28 posted on 03/18/2005 7:58:41 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60's.....you weren't really there.)
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To: CondorFlight; ChildOfThe60s

Thanks for that fact, ChildOfThe60s. Learning history will keep us free. ...another thread of interest.

Putin reiterates support for China's stance on Taiwan issue [and for "high-tech" arms trade.]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1365902/posts


29 posted on 03/18/2005 8:15:41 PM PST by familyop (Essayons!)
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To: familyop

Let me amend that statement by saysing that I can't remember where I read it, but I do remember clearly thinking at the time that it was a reliable, legitimate reference.

I will do my research and see if I can find it again.


30 posted on 03/18/2005 8:49:45 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60's.....you weren't really there.)
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To: familyop

OK, I knew I had some solid justification for my statement [whew]:

Here is an article from the Asia Times by David Scofield, former lecturer at the Graduate Institute of Peace Studies, Kyung Hee University, is currently conducting post-graduate research at the School of East Asian Studies, University of Sheffield, United Kingdom:
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Korea/FH19Dg01.html

And this, New Taiwan, Ilha Formosa: The Website for Taiwan's History, Present, and Future:
http://www.taiwandc.org/hst-1624.htm


31 posted on 03/18/2005 9:09:48 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60's.....you weren't really there.)
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To: familyop

How about Tibet? Do they have the right to territorial integrity too?


32 posted on 03/18/2005 9:56:15 PM PST by thoughtomator (Sick already of premature speculation on the 2008 race)
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33 posted on 03/19/2005 2:28:48 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: familyop

The lines are being drawn.


34 posted on 03/19/2005 2:30:48 AM PST by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: familyop; Dan Evans
Thanks for the information.
I think the Hong Kong folks knew all along that this would happen. Thay ain't stupid and I don't think that many politicians bought the Beijing baloney. THEY were probably bought out LONG ago.

Cynical as it may sound, I think that as long as the fat cats (politicians, powerful businessmen and important, \powerful families) have their economic freedom and wealth, the rest of Hong Kong will just have to accept Beijing's rule.

Taiwan won't be too far behind.
Taiwan ain't no beacon of democracy, imho. Never was; never will be. Chang was as vicious, avaricious, power-hungry and corrupt as any general or fat cat on the mainland. He was SIMPLY not a communist. The commies PROBABLY didn't offer him enough money way back when he was "bribe-able."

Chang's wife, a model of his ilk, just passed away a while back. She was 104 and lived in UNABASHED wealth and luxury, with her army of body guards and nurse, in a New York City penthouse. She was Chang all over again. Again, it's all an opinion folks, just based on what I've read over the years.

35 posted on 03/19/2005 7:10:57 AM PST by starfish923
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To: A CA Guy
I think Russia doesn't fear China in that way. They share the politics of communism in some way and Russia can always start a big nuclear war with China, so there isn't too much worry of invasion.

I agree.
I think that China and the USSR always had this same kind of relationship. The Chinese realized, I think, a long while back that the Russians were as fearless and unafraid of losing THOUSANDS of soldies as they were. In essence, they knew that the Russians were as crazy as they were.

36 posted on 03/19/2005 7:13:51 AM PST by starfish923
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To: Grzegorz 246
I love the photo with Vlad in the BLUE Mao jacket. They got one to match his eyes. < sarcasm >
Putin is quite the diplomat.
Who is he with in the photo SECOND from the bottom?

I think that Dubya should invite Putin to the "ranch," put a Stetson on him and have a great photo op to add to this one.

37 posted on 03/19/2005 7:20:06 AM PST by starfish923
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To: Grzegorz 246
Forgot to ask: who is Putin gladhanding on the SEVENTH from the top photo? Looks like a dictator from South America.
Ah so many despots to visit, so little time.
38 posted on 03/19/2005 7:21:43 AM PST by starfish923
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To: starfish923

Looking closely at the second from the bottom, it looks like old man Hafiz Assad. But I may be wrong.


39 posted on 03/19/2005 7:23:06 AM PST by starfish923
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To: Grzegorz 246

Looking closely at the second from the bottom, it looks like old man Hafiz Assad. But I may be wrong.


40 posted on 03/19/2005 7:24:28 AM PST by starfish923
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