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Guardian hasn't forgotten time with Schiavo, and never will
Kansas City Star ^ | Fri, Mar. 18, 2005 | CARA BUCKLEY

Posted on 03/18/2005 10:22:14 PM PST by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 03/18/2005 10:22:15 PM PST by nickcarraway
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2 posted on 03/18/2005 10:23:21 PM PST by nickcarraway
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Maybe I'm missing something and being uncharitable, but this article makes this guy come off like a self-serving dork. HE is the hero of the story, Terry's ordeal was an opportunity for HIS journey of discovery.

If I end up in the hospital, don't call this guy, ok?

3 posted on 03/18/2005 10:28:41 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Pelosi fined $21,000 for collecting/distributing funds in excess of campaign-finance laws)
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To: nickcarraway
But court documents said Schiavo's cerebral cortex, where reason and emotions are housed, had degenerated to fluid.

This is utter nonsense.

This sort of meaningless hyperbole passes for information.

4 posted on 03/18/2005 10:31:12 PM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: Darkwolf377
He's sharing his experience. Clearly, Terri was drugged for his visits.

Video List
Terri laughing with dad

Videos don't lie, and they are publicly available for anyone to see.

5 posted on 03/18/2005 10:33:24 PM PST by Lexinom (You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him.)
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To: nickcarraway

Sounds like she was sedated when he came to visit.


6 posted on 03/18/2005 10:35:27 PM PST by tertiary01 (PVS is NOT responding to the surrounding environment. Terri responds!!)
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To: Darkwolf377
Maybe I'm missing something and being uncharitable, but this article makes this guy come off like a self-serving dork. HE is the hero of the story, Terry's ordeal was an opportunity for HIS journey of discovery.

He might be. But it seems the reporterette slanted it this way too.

7 posted on 03/18/2005 10:35:29 PM PST by dennisw ("What is Man that thou art mindful of him")
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To: Lexinom
"He's sharing his experience. Clearly, Terri was drugged for his visits."

That's too easy an answer--from what I've seen, she has had no consistent behavior. I don't see who would have drugged her for his visits, when they'd have the opportunity, or why.

Like many on either side of this case, he seems like an opportunist. In our Oprah Nation so many people think stories that are about other people are really about them.

8 posted on 03/18/2005 10:36:00 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Pelosi fined $21,000 for collecting/distributing funds in excess of campaign-finance laws)
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To: Darkwolf377

If I am in a hospital, I never want these demons of death to come and visit me. I changed my living will to make more clear that I would not want to be starved to death under any conditions. I feel that a swift bullet to the head would be much kinder. I feel that Michael Schiavo is a man like Scott Peterson, who wanted rid of his wife.


9 posted on 03/18/2005 10:41:41 PM PST by tessalu
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To: nickcarraway

http://www.newpantagruel.com/issues/2.1/editorial_statement_on_terri_s.php


10 posted on 03/18/2005 10:42:12 PM PST by Nevski
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To: tessalu
I'm all for living wills; I'm not for people making decisions about whether someone lives or dies because there is no living will. Is that the new rule--no living will and we get to decide you die?

I agree with your position; it's my choice to decide when I go in such a circumstance. A husband who refused the full spectrum of treatments for his wife isn't the person I want making such decisions for her.

11 posted on 03/18/2005 10:44:02 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Pelosi fined $21,000 for collecting/distributing funds in excess of campaign-finance laws)
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You could be right - Wolfson was just a pawn.

This case is riddled with self-centeredness. Michael's words of Friday morning "I just want to get this behind me." Never mind the welfare and comfort of the woman he's starving.

It is riddled with self-righteousness too: the line of argumentation that says "She must be in awful pain"; or, "That must be a hellish existence." Clearly, many in this group have never been around severly learning disabled, the mentally retarded, or brain-damaged people. They are very special folks, and vary widely. They have feelings, pains and pleasure, just like we do. They are people, just like us. They are us.

Jesus said "Whatsoever you do unto the least of these, you do it unto me." Pilate expressed some regret, and maybe even anguish, at his decision to put Christ to death. Pilate still committed a horrific act, albeit according to God's will. Wolfson sounds very much like Pontius Pilate.

12 posted on 03/18/2005 10:45:15 PM PST by Lexinom (You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him.)
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We all must be delusional, including Terri's family and a number of visitors she's had over the years and Attorney Barbara Weller.

Wolfson's a liar who WANTS Terri DEAD. He says he's NOT going to give his opinion about Terri's feeding tube being removed and then proceeds to do precisely that.

13 posted on 03/18/2005 10:48:30 PM PST by TAdams8591 (The call you make may be the one that saves Terri's life!!!!!!)
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To: nickcarraway
Wolfson concluded that Schiavo was indeed in a permanent vegetative state.

What? How dare someone post the views of an independent guardian on FR? Wolfson will rot in hell for even thinking to counter the collective wisdom of FR. AM...Pull this post!

14 posted on 03/18/2005 10:49:35 PM PST by Drango (All my ideas, good or bad, are stolen from other FReepers)
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To: tertiary01
Sounds like she was sedated when he came to visit.

Who would do this?

For what reason?

Michael might want it done but he can't do it so he asked the folks at hospice to do it for him?

And why on earth would they honor such a request?

Is this guardian ad litem just one more to be added to the long list of conspirators in this culture of death that we are all living in?

15 posted on 03/18/2005 10:50:57 PM PST by PFKEY
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To: Lexinom
Yeah. I'm not trying to come down on the guy--I started this article with an open mind thinking it would be about TS, and it turned into this paen to this so-caring guy who in the end just happens to come down on the side of the ghouls.

He reminds me of "Bib Sugar," the guy who fires Jerry Maguire in that movie; when firing Maguire he doesn't apologize but says to the guy he's firing "How about thinking about the position you put ME in? Stop being so self-centered" (or words to that affect).

Like jurors in certain cases, some of these people need to forget this isn't just an opportunity for them to have A Moment.

16 posted on 03/18/2005 10:54:51 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Pelosi fined $21,000 for collecting/distributing funds in excess of campaign-finance laws)
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To: Lexinom
Wolfson was just a pawn.

The one person that could actually help Terri and she plays the vegetable just to spite him?

Or the people at hospice drug her so she can respond because they want her dead?

Or her husband or someone working for him come in and drug her so she can't respond?

I can't make any sense of this.

17 posted on 03/18/2005 10:55:18 PM PST by PFKEY
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To: Drango

You're obviously angry, but the videos of Terri tell a very different story from Wolfson's.


18 posted on 03/18/2005 10:55:31 PM PST by Lexinom (You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him.)
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To: PFKEY
I'm not sure. I don't know how many times Wolfson visited her. What he describes, though, is very different from the video footage of Terri interacting with ther family.

Don't rule out sedation. And, following this since 2003, I do remember some dismay from Terri's supporters when Wolfson was appointed instead of another guardian.

19 posted on 03/18/2005 10:58:56 PM PST by Lexinom (You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him.)
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Don't rule out sedation.

By who and for what reason?

20 posted on 03/18/2005 11:01:08 PM PST by PFKEY
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