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Terri's husband isn't the enemy, guardian says
Orlando Sentinel ^ | February 25, 2005 | Mike Thomas

Posted on 03/19/2005 9:18:52 AM PST by EveningStar

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To: Hildy


I "WANT" to see her.


51 posted on 03/19/2005 10:37:06 AM PST by onyx (Robert Frost "Good fences make good neighbors." Build the fence, Mr. President and Congress.)
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To: Peach

That is what happens when you have an agenda tho Peach.

Twist and mistate facts then denigrate others when they don't step in line.


52 posted on 03/19/2005 10:37:06 AM PST by Neets
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To: Hildy

Already been done, with both Nancy Cruzan and Christine Busalacchi.


53 posted on 03/19/2005 10:37:12 AM PST by MarMema ("America may have won the battles, but the Nazis won the war." Virginia Delegate Bob Marshall)
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To: Hildy

And they're both dead from deliberate dehydration, I forgot to mention.


54 posted on 03/19/2005 10:37:50 AM PST by MarMema ("America may have won the battles, but the Nazis won the war." Virginia Delegate Bob Marshall)
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To: Hildy
To me, this is the most important and credible articles thus far.

We have all seen Terri respond to her parents. That trumps this paid for fool by the very courts trying to kill her.

55 posted on 03/19/2005 10:37:59 AM PST by SwordofTruth (God is good all the time.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

The Orlando Sentinel article on which we're all commenting has a link at the end of the article.

It was working when this article was previously posted (twice, as I recall, in both February and March).

I tried to get on it again this morning and it's not working.

However, there are other articles that re-state the court testimony. Also, a google search will give you the court testimony.


56 posted on 03/19/2005 10:38:22 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: MarMema

No, this is a thread about the facts, something some people on this forum don't want to know anything about.


57 posted on 03/19/2005 10:39:39 AM PST by Hildy
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To: Neets

After I posted that, I thought it was sort of a "Duh" statement but it was too late to retract; I'd already hit post :-)

I'm so opinionated that this may well be the first time that I'm conflicted and don't have a strong opinion. My husband is absolutely gobsmacked that I don't have an opinion either way and am convinced one way and then another when I hear some people make their arguments on various sides.


58 posted on 03/19/2005 10:40:27 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach

Do you know how come this article was archived in Bloggers & Personal instead of News & Activism? Pretty weird. How do I contact the moderator to have them change it? I wasn't aware that the Orlando Sentinal was a Blog, did you?


59 posted on 03/19/2005 10:41:12 AM PST by Hildy
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To: Hildy

And what do you consider facts?


60 posted on 03/19/2005 10:41:24 AM PST by MarMema ("America may have won the battles, but the Nazis won the war." Virginia Delegate Bob Marshall)
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To: Peach

You've done well my dear ;-)~~~


61 posted on 03/19/2005 10:41:51 AM PST by Neets
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To: Hildy; Lead Moderator

LOL.

I was pretty surprised when it was moved out of News. I was in the middle of going to the link when it happened. I think the Mods respond more often if we hit abuse and ask the question why it was moved but I'm not positive about that. Does anyone else know?


62 posted on 03/19/2005 10:43:52 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Was Michael the only person who testified about Terri's supposed statements on her views about living on life support?

No, others did as well, and when making the decision in the case, the trial judge took into account all of that testimony and additional evidence. As the Second District explained:

We note that the guardianship court's original order expressly relied upon and found credible the testimony of witnesses other than Mr. Schiavo or the Schindlers. We recognize that Mrs. Schiavo's earlier oral statements were important evidence when deciding whether she would choose in February 2000 to withdraw life-prolonging procedures. See § 765.401(3), Fla. Stat. (2000); In re Guardianship of Browning, 568 So. 2d 4, 16. Nevertheless, the trial judge, acting as her proxy, also properly considered evidence of Mrs. Schiavo's values, personality, and her own decision-making process.

63 posted on 03/19/2005 10:44:16 AM PST by Hildy
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To: EveningStar

Yes, he was a "loving, adoring husband" until he got his hands on Terri's malpractice award. Then, he remembered she wanted him to make sure she died. Yesterday I heard Rep. Weldon on some talk radio show talking about this. He is also an MD. He said one of the things that struck him as odd about Michael Schiavo (and it ought to strike everyone as peculiar) was that in his practice of medicine, when the MD initially gives the husband, family, relative the probable diagnosis that things do not look good, and what will be needed to keep the person alive, that is when the husband says my wife would not want that feeding tube, respirator, etc.; he doesn't remember that later after he sues and gets the $.


64 posted on 03/19/2005 10:44:29 AM PST by penowa
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To: Peach
It's been stated that Michael refused to let a priest visit her.

Actually, the last time the tube was removed, Terri's priest was not allowed entrance as it was said she'd choke on the Host if given Last Rites. I'll try to find a link for that.

65 posted on 03/19/2005 10:47:45 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Life support. canned, frozen or fresh, it's good for you!)
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To: SwordofTruth

Actually, court testimony from nurses say that Terri "speaks" and moves her eyes and head whether there is someone in the room with her or not.


66 posted on 03/19/2005 10:48:41 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach

Fixed.


67 posted on 03/19/2005 10:49:17 AM PST by Lead Moderator
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To: Hildy

How do you think they will cash in when Michael is the one who is in charge of her estate? When they make that movie and write that book, HE is the one who will profit from the sale of the rights to her story. If there is an insurance policy, who do you suppose will get that money when she's gone?


68 posted on 03/19/2005 10:50:02 AM PST by penowa
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To: Lead Moderator; Hildy

Thank you!

Hildy -- it's been moved back.


69 posted on 03/19/2005 10:50:17 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach

Welcome ;)


70 posted on 03/19/2005 10:50:45 AM PST by Lead Moderator
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To: DJ MacWoW

I know that last rites were administered yesterday; I don't think last rites always involve a host as so often patients are not in any condition to receive the host.


71 posted on 03/19/2005 10:51:11 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Hildy
Was Michael the only person who testified about Terri's supposed statements on her views about living on life support?

No, others did as well,

Yes. His brother and sister in law.

We are a nation gone mad when we equate food with "life support".

72 posted on 03/19/2005 10:51:31 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Life support. canned, frozen or fresh, it's good for you!)
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To: penowa

The first several years, there is no disputing that Michael did everything he could to help Terri. Maybe, just maybe, he realized, because unlike any of you, he sees her everyday, she's not going to recover. It's then, after exhausting all the avenues, that he decides to let her go. Well, that just makes too much sense for some of you.


73 posted on 03/19/2005 10:52:27 AM PST by Hildy
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To: Peach
Thanks for your sane post.

Some of the accusations being flung about have been totally out of line.

This has not been FR's finest hour.

74 posted on 03/19/2005 10:52:37 AM PST by zarf
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To: Peach

It's not a lie that Terri's mother, father and family are being forced to watch their daughter being killed.


75 posted on 03/19/2005 10:52:50 AM PST by jla
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To: DJ MacWoW

And a friend of hers.


76 posted on 03/19/2005 10:52:54 AM PST by Hildy
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To: Peach

Please direct me to someplace where I can read about all these claims you have made. Thank you.


77 posted on 03/19/2005 10:53:13 AM PST by penowa
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To: Peach; EveningStar

Thank you!


78 posted on 03/19/2005 10:53:15 AM PST by Hildy
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To: Neets

I tried to respond for a while and the thread wasn't letting me post for a few minutes. I think it's while it was being moved out of Chat.

Now I've forgotten what I was going to mention. Aaargh


79 posted on 03/19/2005 10:53:16 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: penowa

Michael hasn't make any money from this and there's no money to speak of left. I don't know how many times that has to be stated before some of you stop posting lies.


80 posted on 03/19/2005 10:54:05 AM PST by Hildy
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To: Lead Moderator

Nice!!


81 posted on 03/19/2005 10:54:46 AM PST by Neets
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To: penowa
Try this:

TERRI SCHIAVO INFORMATION PAGE

82 posted on 03/19/2005 10:54:56 AM PST by Hildy
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To: DJ MacWoW

Also Terri's best friend, Joan, also gave testimony that Terri had said she didn't want to be kept alive with tubes.

Make sure you have a living will; that may be the only "good" thing to come out of all this. It will make people realize how important that is.


83 posted on 03/19/2005 10:54:57 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Neets; Peach; Hildy

It looks like all the Terri threads are in this forum now.


84 posted on 03/19/2005 10:55:24 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Hildy

I think Michael changed his mind after he heard Terri's parents testify the lengths to which they would go to keep Terri alive. Gruesome isn't the word for it.

That's not to condemn them, but it was pretty excessive.


85 posted on 03/19/2005 10:55:46 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: jla

Their daugher died 15 years ago.


86 posted on 03/19/2005 10:55:55 AM PST by Hildy
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To: Peach
I've seen freepers espouse that Michael is after the insurance money. And yet according to court papers, Michael formally offered to divest himself entirely of his financial interests in the guardianship estate.

Michael stipulated that he must be allowed to kill TERRI FIRST, before divesting himself of the guardianship estate. NOT A VERY GOOD DEAL.

87 posted on 03/19/2005 10:56:14 AM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: jla

No one said it is.


88 posted on 03/19/2005 10:56:18 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach

I know. I wish some here would examine the Schindlers as closely as they do Mr. Schiavo. It's not a pretty thing to say, but this whole situation isn't pretty.


89 posted on 03/19/2005 10:56:43 AM PST by Hildy
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To: Peach

I question it because her friend, Diane Meyer, said something quite different. I've never seen a "Joan" mentioned. Jackie Rhodes but not a "Joan".


90 posted on 03/19/2005 10:57:30 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Life support. canned, frozen or fresh, it's good for you!)
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To: penowa

The article on which we are all commenting has a link at the end of the page that includes all the court testimony.

The link was working when this article was previously posted on FR a couple of months ago. I tried to get on it again this morning and it's not working. At least not for me. BUt you can try it.

Also a google search has a couple of links to court testimony.


91 posted on 03/19/2005 10:57:33 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Neets

"To: Peach
Thank you Peach

I agree 100%"

Me too. Thanks.


92 posted on 03/19/2005 10:58:27 AM PST by Indy4w
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To: Peach
Her sister denied that Terri had bulimia but that is the very basis under which Michael won a malpractice suit.

And the doctor who was being SUED, was later cleared of ALL CHARGES. That means the CHARGES WERE BASELESS. That means the bulimia was MADE UP OUT OF THIN AIR.

93 posted on 03/19/2005 10:59:17 AM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2

So you believe that he would state all that, then she'd die and he'd say, HA HA FOOLED YA? It's the only leverage he has. You guys think you're the only ones who feel stronly about what you believe, don't you? Maybe Michael feels strongly. If he didn't, why would he go through all of this craziness. AND PLEASE DON'T SAY MONEY. I will make a wager with anyone right here right now that the first one who will profit from the Terri situation will be named Schindler.


94 posted on 03/19/2005 10:59:17 AM PST by Hildy
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To: DJ MacWoW

I read the link that led to court documents a month or so ago so maybe I've gotten the name wrong. It was her best friend and the name started with "J". She stated under oath that Terri told her she'd never want to live with tubes, etc.


95 posted on 03/19/2005 10:59:42 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Howlin

I wish there would be just one consolidated TS thread with any and all pertinent articles posted.

I say that for a few reasons ;-)


96 posted on 03/19/2005 11:00:02 AM PST by Neets
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To: UCANSEE2

I don't think that's right. That lawsuit resulted in a $700,000 award. I wish my memory was better, but I've never read what you just said.


97 posted on 03/19/2005 11:00:43 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach
Actually, court testimony from nurses say that Terri "speaks" and moves her eyes and head whether there is someone in the room with her or not.

So do I.

98 posted on 03/19/2005 11:02:14 AM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: Indy4w

You're welcome, Indy.


99 posted on 03/19/2005 11:02:22 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: MarMema

OMG....ask me a question, I'll tell you the fact.


100 posted on 03/19/2005 11:03:54 AM PST by Hildy
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