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Garry Trudeau: Bush 'Apparently Thinks Propaganda's OK'
Editor & Publisher ^ | Mar. 18, 2005

Posted on 03/19/2005 10:29:16 AM PST by Crackingham

Why is Garry Trudeau doing a "Doonesbury" sequence inspired by disgraced Republican-friendly reporter Jeff Gannon?

"I'm not sure it's commonly understood to what lengths this administration is willing to go to bypass the 'filter,' as Bush calls the media," the cartoonist replied in an e-mail interview. "The president made it official Wednesday -- his Justice Department (news - web sites), fresh from signing off on torture, apparently thinks propaganda's OK too."

When asked if he thought the press has underreported the Gannon episode, pundit payola, and other examples of media manipulation, Trudeau said: "It's not that it's been underreported so far. It's just that the media, in both its own and the public's interest, ought to stay with this story. If Bush is prepared to defend fake news, then the media should be equally prepared to say why it's anti-democratic and an abuse of power."

Trudeau, who was referring to George W. Bush's remarks about government-created video news releases for TV stations, started the "Doonesbury" sequence this Monday and said he will continue it through next week. In it, Secretary of Toady Affairs Andrews finds a "stooge" to replace Gannon as a lobber of softball questions in the White House press corps. He's Roland Hedley, the narcissistic journalist long known to "Doonesbury" readers.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: clueless; fossils; garrytrudeau; hasbeens; jeffgannon; relics

1 posted on 03/19/2005 10:29:16 AM PST by Crackingham
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To: Crackingham

Course Trudeau wouldn't think of including forged documents in his definition of "fake news."


2 posted on 03/19/2005 10:31:57 AM PST by happyathome
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To: Crackingham

Frankly, government produced propaganda is just fine with me if 1) the source is disclosed and 2) the government does not prevent dissenting opinions from speaking. I know the media outlets didn't do a good enough job at #1, but they sure as hell do plenty of #2.


3 posted on 03/19/2005 10:32:22 AM PST by mcg1969
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To: Crackingham
I'm not sure it's commonly understood to what degree members of the "filter" feel they have special privilege to control and distort information which is important to voter/citizen/taxpayers - but Mr. Trudeau is a perfect example. He can pound sand.
4 posted on 03/19/2005 10:33:12 AM PST by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: Crackingham

I'm betting I could leave my house, go to the mall, and ask 100 people, "Who is Jeff Gannon?" and not get one correct answer.

The fact that wacky lefties like Trudeau are stuck on this shows how truly pathetic they are.


5 posted on 03/19/2005 10:34:38 AM PST by L98Fiero
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To: Crackingham

90% of the people in that press room are liberals who voted for John Kerry. One guy in that room was a GOP partisan - so freaking what? I can't believe the stupid libs made such a big deal out of this. And to refer to this as Bush "propaganda" is just ridiculous - as if it's the same thing as the Communists controlling all the media and rigidly censoring every word uttered in the public (and private) sphere.


6 posted on 03/19/2005 10:35:28 AM PST by billybudd
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To: Crackingham
Garry Trudeau has made a substantial living selling propaganda, funny I've never seen any disclaimers on his "comics".

Just another case of a socialist hypocrite who would never practice what he preaches.
7 posted on 03/19/2005 10:36:57 AM PST by federal
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To: billybudd

Trudeau is a dinosaur, an angry communist who draws cartoons that feature his jaundiced view of the world.


8 posted on 03/19/2005 10:38:03 AM PST by Luke21
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To: L98Fiero

I'm betting I could leave my house, go to the mall, and ask 100 people, "Who is Jeff Gannon?" and not get one correct answer.
 

Not to mention being asked to leave by security.


9 posted on 03/19/2005 10:38:19 AM PST by Fintan (Someday we'll look back on this moment and plow into a parked car.)
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To: Crackingham

Garry Trudeau makes a living out of pallid, stupid, trite propaganda.


10 posted on 03/19/2005 10:39:11 AM PST by Tax Government (Boycott and defeat the Legacy Media. Become a monthly contributor to FR.)
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To: Crackingham

I'll mak you a money bet that old Gary saw Fat Mike's propaganda-- Farenheit 9/11.


11 posted on 03/19/2005 10:39:37 AM PST by Clara Lou (Hillary Clinton: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: mcg1969
Frankly, government produced propaganda is just fine with me if 1) the source is disclosed and 2) the government does not prevent dissenting opinions from speaking. I know the media outlets didn't do a good enough job at #1, but they sure as hell do plenty of #2.

I agree, to some extent. The government clearly has a reasonable interest in producing public relations media to inform the citizenry. It becomes an issue when a couple of things happen:

A) the source isn't disclosed to the public. This happens a lot, as you mention, but it can't be blamed on any one party: the media outlets are at least as culpable here as the producers of the "propaganda." It does seem that dressing up a message from the government as "news" leads to trouble.

B) The government pumps big bucks into partisan propoganda: It's ok if the agriculture department informs us of their new soybean program (or whatever), but how would you like to see government funded pro-abortion adds/movies/fake news reports?

C) And, of course, when government propoganda pushes out debate, as you mention.

12 posted on 03/19/2005 10:43:38 AM PST by LiveBait
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To: Crackingham
Garry Trudeau: Bush 'Apparently Thinks Propaganda's OK'

The agony and the irony... They're killing me.

APf

13 posted on 03/19/2005 10:44:17 AM PST by APFel (For some reason, the word "Freeper" is flagged by the spellcheck. Someone contact Websters.)
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To: Crackingham

Trudeau is an ass, the government has been "feeding" news to the media for decades. From the "Movie Time" news shown in theatres during WWII up to today. It's not news and certainly not 'new'.


14 posted on 03/19/2005 10:47:13 AM PST by infidel29 ("It is only the warlike power of a civilized people that can give peace to the world."- T. Roosevelt)
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To: Crackingham

Trudee went on a Sabbatical a few years back and must have
got his hands on some oily Hash or something.Doonsbury was ok when I was smokin' dope -but then so was alot of
stuf fI find offensive today.Have not read a funny Doonsbury since Zonker was baby sitting the football helmut.


15 posted on 03/19/2005 10:49:26 AM PST by StonyBurk
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To: Crackingham

He's just mad because his wife's TV talk show has been cancelled (Jane Pauley).


16 posted on 03/19/2005 10:53:11 AM PST by Maria S (Some church members who sing "Standing on the Promises" are just sitting on the premises.)
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To: infidel29
If I had a dollar for every time a MSM "news reader" read verbatim, a press release from some Democrat congressman or Senator, reporting it as "news" I could put a bubble over Houston and air condition it.
17 posted on 03/19/2005 10:54:03 AM PST by Comus (talgine?)
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To: federal

Does anyone even read Doonesbury anymore? It's like one of those long-running comics that remain on the pages more out of respect for its long life than for any brilliant humor. Kind of like Nancy and Garfield.


18 posted on 03/19/2005 10:55:13 AM PST by jwalburg (Those buried included children still clutching toys)
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To: L98Fiero
I'm betting I could leave my house, go to the mall, and ask 100 people, "Who is Jeff Gannon?" and not get one correct answer.

LOL! True but I bet I could ask the same 100 people who Dick Cheney is and only about 30 of them could tell me that either!

19 posted on 03/19/2005 10:57:08 AM PST by riri
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To: Comus
Undoubtedly, I'm waiting for the day when Petey Jennings or some other yukker on TV says the line

"by; so and so at the DNC, don't read this line stupid... oops"

20 posted on 03/19/2005 10:57:51 AM PST by infidel29 ("It is only the warlike power of a civilized people that can give peace to the world."- T. Roosevelt)
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To: mcg1969
To be honest, I have nothing against propaganda in a free society, and I hope I haven't contradicted myself. My concern is a lack of propaganda. Until we are allowed to hate our enemy, we won't have the will to fight. At this point, the media are portraying those who would destroy us as fine fellows indeed. This is a recipe for suicide. Even Hollywood stereotyped the Hun and Jap in WW2, thus allowing the American public catharsis and social cohesion. I say "Hun and Jap" to get the point of propaganda across, and have nothing but respect for my Japanese and German brethren.
21 posted on 03/19/2005 11:04:35 AM PST by ashtanga
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To: Fintan

At least he'd not be asking them for "The Frequency" :P


22 posted on 03/19/2005 11:12:29 AM PST by Codename - Ron Benjamin ("Forbidden fruit? We have forbidden fruit? Hey Eve... we have forbidden fruit!!!!!")
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To: infidel29

Their is something about watching Trudeau, Moyers, and Kellior implode and stew in their own bitterness that brings joy.
Their mask of being an enlightened social critics gone, their pretence of being insightful exposed, their little daggers of hate ignored by all but their fellow kool-aid drinkers.

Does it seem to you that our enemys on the left are seeming more and more pathetic with each passing day?


23 posted on 03/19/2005 11:15:43 AM PST by Jonah Johansen
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To: Jonah Johansen

I love it, gone are the days when we go to them to get our socio-political commentaries. Now they have to come to us.


24 posted on 03/19/2005 11:20:22 AM PST by infidel29 ("It is only the warlike power of a civilized people that can give peace to the world."- T. Roosevelt)
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To: Crackingham
What I'd really like is to have one of these Gannongate jackals point to one thing Gannon wrote that was untrue. They won't, because none of it was. Gannon had a slant, big whoop, like The Nation doesn't? Like NPR doesn't? This is the very definition of a non-story.
25 posted on 03/19/2005 11:24:47 AM PST by SoDak (hoist that rag!)
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To: Crackingham
[ Garry Trudeau: Bush 'Apparently Thinks Propaganda's OK' ]

I don't about Bush but Garry Trudeau certainly thinks propaganda is OK..
Hes been providing agitprop for Oh! so long..

26 posted on 03/19/2005 11:26:51 AM PST by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: Crackingham

And Gary Trudeau doesn't ever engage in propaganda? Oh please!


27 posted on 03/19/2005 11:27:58 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: Crackingham

Garry Trudeau has made his entire career in propaganda. Seems like he's in a poor position to throw stones.


28 posted on 03/19/2005 11:34:30 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: infidel29
It's not news and certainly not 'new'.

Nothingisnew.

FMCDH(BITS)

29 posted on 03/19/2005 12:07:21 PM PST by nothingnew (There are two kinds of people; Decent and indecent.)
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To: Crackingham
It's just that the media, in both its own and the public's interest, ought to stay with this story.

Yes Garry, Left wing media ought to stay with this story. The longer the better.

Of course, the lefty bloggers are determined to make Gannon into a huge story. But no matter how many times the great hunters say "Did you see the size of that chipmunk!" and no matter how much parsley you garnish the plate with, it's still a chipmunk.

Goldberg


30 posted on 03/19/2005 12:14:37 PM PST by Milhous
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To: Crackingham

If Gary doesn't believe in propaganda, why has he been publishing his cartoon for so many years?


31 posted on 03/19/2005 12:41:02 PM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: Luke21
Trudeau is a dinosaur, an angry communist who draws cartoons that feature his jaundiced view of the world.

But his cartoons of the Gulf War were the best, almost like he was there and knew what was really happening.

32 posted on 03/19/2005 1:04:17 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Crackingham

Trudeau doesn't need no stinking government to tell him what to print. He's a stooge for all the crackpot radical feminists, leftists, and other imbeciles in the anti-American army. You better believe that whenever one of the crackpot groups says we must do such and such about something, Trudeau will echo it in his strip. He's the biggest leftist toady of them all.


33 posted on 03/19/2005 1:44:02 PM PST by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: Crackingham
ooooh, words of wisdom from a comic-strip boy. wow. I'll take that with all the seriousness it deserves.
34 posted on 03/19/2005 8:27:32 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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