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1 posted on 03/19/2005 2:33:31 PM PST by Dada Orwell
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To: Dada Orwell
You already have a national ID card courtesy of FDR. Get over the frenzy and remember that the bad guys can be scooped up with these things.
3 posted on 03/19/2005 2:38:42 PM PST by Thebaddog (Dawgs off the coffee table.)
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To: Dada Orwell

The federal constitution outlines citizenship; the federal government is the one who determines if someone is a citizen or not, not the states.

As such, since state issued ID cards are being used to identify citizenship, the federal government has a right to put in requirements as to how that ID should be prepared, what records are kept about them, etc.

The states have the power to stop their identifications from being used in this manner.

Seems like a separation of power to me, and it seems constitutional. I suppose the answer could be a federal law requiring passports for all financial transactions, airport screenings, etc, but I doubt that the freestaters would like that much better.

(dons fireproof undies to handle the future flames.)


4 posted on 03/19/2005 2:41:37 PM PST by kingu (Which would you bet on? Iraq and Afghanistan? Or Haiti and Kosovo?)
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To: Dada Orwell
"But participants agreed it's important to do *something* against this proposed violation of the Tenth Amendment, which hold that powers not specifically delegated to the Feds in the Constitution are automatically given to the states or the people."

Except that having a national system so that states can securely use each other's IDs is a fairly obvious extension of the federal government's power to regulate interstate commerce.
5 posted on 03/19/2005 2:42:23 PM PST by Moral Hazard (I'm an atheist gamer. I don't believe in God Mode.)
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To: Dada Orwell

I'm all for the free state project, but I think they should start from scratch, rather than leeching off an already functioning state.


8 posted on 03/19/2005 3:21:40 PM PST by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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To: Dada Orwell

God bless 'em.


10 posted on 03/19/2005 3:45:12 PM PST by jsubstance
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