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Report: 10 Million Illegal Aliens in U.S.
News Max ^ | Monday, March 21, 2005 | NewsMax

Posted on 03/21/2005 11:01:53 AM PST by tomball

WASHINGTON -- The nation's undocumented immigrant population surged to 10.3 million last year, spurred largely since 2000 by the arrivals of unauthorized Mexicans in the United States, a report being released Monday says.

The population of undocumented residents in the United States increased by about 23 percent from 8.4 million in the four-year period ending last March, according to the analysis of government data by the Pew Hispanic Center, a private research group.
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That equates to a net increase of roughly 485,000 per year between 2000 and 2004. The estimate was derived by subtracting the number of unauthorized immigrants who leave the United States, die or acquire legal status from the number of new undocumented immigrants that arrive each year.
The prospect of better job opportunities in the United States than in their native countries remains a powerful lure for many immigrants, said Pew center director Roberto Suro, pointing to a reason often cited by other researchers.

"The border has been the focus of federal efforts (to cut illegal entry) and has not produced a reduction in flow. Certainly that's an indication of ongoing demand," he said.

The population is growing at a similar pace as in the late 1990s even though the U.S. economy today isn't as robust, Suro said.

Assuming the flow of undocumented immigrants into the country hasn't abated since March 2004, the population is likely near 11 million now.

The report considered "undocumented" immigrants primarily as those here illegally; those in the United States on expired visas; or those who violated the terms of their admission in other ways.

 


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordersecurity; bushamnesty; illegalaliens; illegals; immigration; minutemen; propertyrights
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1 posted on 03/21/2005 11:01:54 AM PST by tomball
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To: tomball

I think that between Winchester, Federal, UMC, and Atlanta, they can manufacture enough ammo to help us fix this problem pronto!


2 posted on 03/21/2005 11:03:04 AM PST by HMFIC (Fourth Generation American INFIDEL and PROUD OF IT!)
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To: tomball

And I think I saw about 10,000 of them this morning and I'm in Massachusetts.


3 posted on 03/21/2005 11:04:35 AM PST by Mears ("Call me irresponsible".)
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To: tomball

I'd say they're about half right.....heck I think we have about a million alone in the DFW metroplex.


4 posted on 03/21/2005 11:04:41 AM PST by american spirit
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To: HiJinx

Ping


5 posted on 03/21/2005 11:05:07 AM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: HMFIC

There are more practical, humane and inexpensive ways ways to remedy the problem.


6 posted on 03/21/2005 11:06:09 AM PST by skeeter ("What's to talk about? It's illegal." S Bono)
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To: tomball
Does anyone have a reliable estimate of the proportion of Latinos in this country who are "undocumented?"
7 posted on 03/21/2005 11:09:40 AM PST by Sparticus
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To: Mears
And I think I saw about 10,000 of them this morning and I'm in Massachusetts.

That's nothing. Aside from a few old people here in Pu-ay-bloooo, CO, our family is one of only a few non-Hispanics left. I even bought a CD to learn Spanish last year, so we could procure basic needs without confusion but, instead, I think we'll pack it up and move north like other English-speaking Americans.

8 posted on 03/21/2005 11:10:15 AM PST by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: Mears

M,
About 10,000 more lived in a single triple decker across the street from where my best friend grew up.


9 posted on 03/21/2005 11:10:29 AM PST by Gefreiter (When seconds count, the police are minutes away.)
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To: skeeter

Huh?

Those patrolling the Arizona deserts should access to plenty of ammo if need be.

Ah, I see, I was not advocating hurting the illegals in ANY WAY!

I just want them OUT of the USA. Peacefully if possible, forcibly if need be.


10 posted on 03/21/2005 11:13:12 AM PST by HMFIC (Fourth Generation American INFIDEL and PROUD OF IT!)
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To: HMFIC

I agree. 10 Million is one hell of an invasion force. Is this not an act of foreign occupation!?!?


11 posted on 03/21/2005 11:17:17 AM PST by SpinnerWebb (Money can't buy everything... but what the hell can you buy without it?)
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To: SpinnerWebb
Is this not an act of foreign occupation!?!?

From where I'm sitting it certainly is...:-)

12 posted on 03/21/2005 11:19:50 AM PST by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: Types_with_Fist
I'm in Rye, CO and you exaggerate too much.
13 posted on 03/21/2005 11:21:24 AM PST by unkus
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To: tomball

That is why we need the military to start rounding them up and deporting them as well as protecting our borders. Also, once jobs, free medical treatment, and other special perks, such as reduced college tuition, are closed to them, hordes of them will return on their own.


14 posted on 03/21/2005 11:22:16 AM PST by Dante3
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To: SpinnerWebb

I am completely convinced that this more than constitutes an unignorable act of war, for Mexico to send 10 million of its citizens here. It's a de facto annexation of territory.


15 posted on 03/21/2005 11:22:55 AM PST by thoughtomator (Death to Terri! Death to Israel! Death to the Great Satan!)
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To: tomball

"If Mexico is sincere about wanting to improve itself, it would stop pushing drugs and border hopping. Instead, it would invite us to invade and seize the entire country and turn it into the world's greatest golf resort. Let us be open about this. There is no reason for Mexico to be such a mess except that it is run by Mexicans, who have clearly established that they don't know what the heck they are doing."...Mike Royko


16 posted on 03/21/2005 11:23:54 AM PST by libbybelle
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To: SpinnerWebb

It is called "Reconquista".


17 posted on 03/21/2005 11:23:58 AM PST by unkus
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To: tomball

I'm sorry, but there is no way this is accurate. The truth is more like 2 to 3 times that many. I am willing to bet that SoCal alone has nearly 7-8 million.


18 posted on 03/21/2005 11:26:59 AM PST by Comstock1
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To: tomball
The population of undocumented residents in the United States increased by about 23 percent from 8.4 million in the four-year period ending last March, according to the analysis of government data by the Pew Hispanic Center, a private research group.

That's a huge increase that have come in during Bush's watch. Of course, since he won't close the borders, that's not surprising. When we get hit again, everyone is going to blame him because he did NOTHING to stop the invasion!!

19 posted on 03/21/2005 11:29:05 AM PST by NRA2BFree (Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge ..)
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To: Mears

WASHINGTON -- The nation's undocumented immigrant population surged to 10.3 million last year, spurred largely since 2000 by the arrivals of unauthorized Mexicans in the United States, a report being released Monday says.

This is one of the dumbest statements written. If they are undocumented, how do they know how many there are? Duh.


20 posted on 03/21/2005 11:31:33 AM PST by mict42
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To: NRA2BFree

And Hitlery is setting herself up to be in the position of "I told you so". She will oportunize on this to the max


21 posted on 03/21/2005 11:32:13 AM PST by unkus
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To: tomball

What are we doing to ourselves? And to think that neither political party has the courage to put a stop to this inflow of illegal aliens and possibly terrorists and criminals is just beyond common sense. When that WMD goes off and family members get hurt, and it is substantiated that the perpetrators entered our country illegally, what recourse do we have? Would that Congress answer my question.


22 posted on 03/21/2005 11:33:44 AM PST by auburntiger
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To: NRA2BFree

And Hitlery is setting herself up to be in the position of "I told you so". She will opportinize it to the max.


23 posted on 03/21/2005 11:33:48 AM PST by unkus
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To: NRA2BFree

You couldn't be more correct. In this regard, Bush is violating his oath of office.


24 posted on 03/21/2005 11:34:32 AM PST by libbybelle
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To: unkus

If Hillary were sincere about closing the US borders I would vote for her many times. Problem is; I can't trust Hillary. Another problem is; I can't trust Bush either. We are really in a quandary.


25 posted on 03/21/2005 11:41:14 AM PST by auburntiger
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To: HMFIC

Buh bye.


26 posted on 03/21/2005 11:45:10 AM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: tomball

100% of the blame is on Pres. Bush. Bush better hope that none of these illegals are terrorists - this will be on his hands.


27 posted on 03/21/2005 11:46:48 AM PST by sasafras (sasafras (unity not diversity is what made America great))
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To: tomball

Those numbers are popcorn the reality is twice that plus unless you have American parents you should get the boot OUT.. Anchor Babies and such Bull-crap!


28 posted on 03/21/2005 11:50:57 AM PST by Fast1 (Destroy America buy Chinese goods,Shop at Wal-Mart)
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To: unkus
And Hitlery is setting herself up to be in the position of "I told you so". She will oportunize on this to the max.

You can already see the 'new Hillary look.' I think she's even had a voice coach (like Kerry did), so she won't sound like such a witch. I'm sure she's paid close attention to how Bush won, so she knows how to push voters buttons. I look for many more scenes of her coming out of church with a Bible in her hand.

29 posted on 03/21/2005 11:53:21 AM PST by NRA2BFree (Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge ..)
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To: HMFIC

Uh, 10 million is grossly undercounting.


30 posted on 03/21/2005 11:55:25 AM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: Mears
And I think I saw about 10,000 of them this morning and I'm in Massachusetts.

No kidding. Half of Brazil now lives here. Got to be at least twice that 10M number overall.

31 posted on 03/21/2005 11:56:16 AM PST by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending.)
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To: NRA2BFree

She is a vile, evil creature with no limits on how low she will go.


32 posted on 03/21/2005 11:57:30 AM PST by unkus
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To: NRA2BFree
according to the analysis of government data by the Pew Hispanic Center

Look up the Pew orgs. Once you know who they are, pick a multiple: 2X, 3X, 4X? That is the real size of the problem.

33 posted on 03/21/2005 11:59:11 AM PST by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending.)
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To: libbybelle
You couldn't be more correct. In this regard, Bush is violating his oath of office.

Indeed he is, but NO ONE in DC is willing to do anything about it. Too many people in the GOP are cowards and traitors, just like in the RAT party!!! They all want the Mexican vote.

34 posted on 03/21/2005 12:01:37 PM PST by NRA2BFree (Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge ..)
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To: tomball

Jeez, that's it??? /sarcasm.... Holy Crap!!!


35 posted on 03/21/2005 12:03:12 PM PST by Hand em their arse
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To: mict42

Take the guvernment numbers and multiple by 2 or 3x's.
The illegals in this country are certainly between 20-30 Million. I bet they are arriving at 3-5 million/year.
This problem may bring the government down.


36 posted on 03/21/2005 12:04:27 PM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero.)
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To: unkus
She is a vile, evil creature with no limits on how low she will go.

That's a great description of her. :)Whatever it takes to get in is what she will do.

37 posted on 03/21/2005 12:08:18 PM PST by NRA2BFree (Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge ..)
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To: Types_with_Fist

I live in Houston and the illegals really don't bother me. I can get a full car was for $15 dollars. Have my lawn mowed for $20. Go to the taco stand and get carnitas, barbacoa, and any other taco for about a buck each. In addition, I have a lady that cleans my house and does my laundry for $30. Also, I go to a catholic church that is full of illegals. A few years ago they refurbished our 100 year old church free of charge. The parish only had to pay for supplies. Yes there are many criminals in their population. This is why George Bushes immigration reform is a winner. We can weed out the felons and criminals. All of these savings allows me to invest more money and spend more in our economy.


38 posted on 03/21/2005 12:10:00 PM PST by todd1
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To: NRA2BFree
I think the government has a policy to let them in because their presence keeps many kinds of inflation low. If the government really wanted to stop this invasion, it would have done a better job that this.

I don't think it is just political correctness or worrying about offending Hispanic voters. I think that some folks at the top of our policy-making hierarchy have decided that illegal immigrants (like cheap imported goods from China) are ESSENTIAL for our economy. Not just to keep costs down for building contractors and restaurant owners, but to keep inflation down generally for the health of the overall economy. I don't know if they are right, but I think that is what is going on.

39 posted on 03/21/2005 12:17:51 PM PST by Montfort (The Democrat Party -- The Party of Death)
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To: tomball

Wow! Thats like the entire population of Toronto, Vancouver, Calgary and Montreal combined.

I cant even comprehend how that many people can slip through and stay through.


40 posted on 03/21/2005 12:22:59 PM PST by AlbertaBeef
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To: tomball
[ Report: 10 Million Illegal Aliens in U.S. ]

And just HOW was that number arrived at.?..

Counting people that are hiding cannot be an easy task...
Obviously its much WORSE than that... in numbers

10 million is a lot.. got a feeling is 2 or 3 times that number or more.. since its veritably LEGAL to be Illegal in Mexifornia..

This whole thing stinks.. and its isn't a matter political party either.. this issue lies at the bottom not the top of a bigger issue.. Both parties are complicit in the illegal alien invasion.. its NOT happenstance.. its ON PURPOSE.. Aided and encouraged by the Administration in power..

Bottom line it could be stopped not overnight but easily within say 3 months.. at least the bulk of them could be stopped.. and a phased return of the illegals here now.. or they would melt BACK over the border like they came..

Thats not happening.. why.?. Why INDEED...

41 posted on 03/21/2005 12:32:20 PM PST by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: HMFIC

Don't blame me, I threw my vote away!


43 posted on 03/21/2005 12:45:43 PM PST by Stu Cohen (Press '1' for English)
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To: HMFIC
The nation's undocumented immigrant

What's an "undocumented" immigrant?

44 posted on 03/21/2005 12:48:39 PM PST by Stu Cohen (Press '1' for English)
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To: todd1

How much have your property taxes and insurance rates gone up in the last few years? Isn't it also gratifying to know that the payroll taxes your employer pays is supplementing all the crooks hiring illegals and evading numerous payroll taxes. You might want to broaden your observation of this matter a little more because many hardworking Americans have been replaced by NON-TAXPAYING illegals.....the job you save may be your own.


45 posted on 03/21/2005 12:58:24 PM PST by american spirit
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To: Stu Cohen
Despite W being the best guy on immigration we have seen in a long, long time, the guys at Border Patrol still have their hands tied by the beaurocracy between the WH and Congress. They know where to find these people but they will be severely punished by Congress if they actually do it. And W won't take the extra step of giving them permanent political cover to do it.

Anybody who lives in LA knows of the MS13 gang - which is made up almost entirely of illegals from Mexico and Central America. The local cops could arrest them all for simply being here illegally but even when they are deported the illegals end back up in LA.

I'm for building a prison in Mexico and letting the Mexicans run it cheap. We can round up all of the illegals and put them in prison IN Mexico for a lot less and get the violence criminal ones out of state systems and out of circulation in another country. Longer sentences will prevent them from illegally re-migrating back to LA.

46 posted on 03/21/2005 12:58:56 PM PST by bpjam (Now accepting liberal apologies ....)
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To: tomball
Finally, some good news!

With all these immigrunts sucking up all the expensive goobermint services this economy hasn't got a chance. We'll be folded into the NWO a lot quicker with this expensive burden weighing everyone down.

For English press one.

47 posted on 03/21/2005 1:00:44 PM PST by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal Today)
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To: Elmer Piddlestone

If we hold employers accountable then this should not be a problem. Also, the there will be 11 million or more people offically paying taxes.


48 posted on 03/21/2005 1:01:08 PM PST by todd1
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To: american spirit
Right... But I feel that business is business. If it is cheaper for a company to higher a Mexican then so be it. The fact is they will work for cheaper and for no benefits. The cheap workforce has helped keep some businesses in the states instead of exporting the jobs. Also, if bushes plan goes through then they will be paying taxes. I think a job should go to who wants it most. We live in a world economy. Getting a job at the plant and retiring on a fat pension are in the past. As Americans we need to educate ourselves and start finding new ways to make money.
49 posted on 03/21/2005 1:04:28 PM PST by todd1
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To: american spirit
Right... But I feel that business is business. If it is cheaper for a company to higher a Mexican then so be it. The fact is they will work for cheaper and for no benefits. The cheap workforce has helped keep some businesses in the states instead of exporting the jobs. Also, if bushes plan goes through then they will be paying taxes. I think a job should go to who wants it most. We live in a world economy. Getting a job at the plant and retiring on a fat pension are in the past. As Americans we need to educate ourselves and start finding new ways to make money.
50 posted on 03/21/2005 1:04:30 PM PST by todd1
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