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Nurse: Michael Schiavo Wanted Her to Die
RushLimbaugh.com | 3-21-05

Posted on 03/21/2005 7:43:31 PM PST by Babu

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To: Babu

Righto. YOU can't have it both ways.


21 posted on 03/21/2005 8:05:34 PM PST by Trust but Verify (Pull up a chair and watch history being made.)
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To: Terriergal

So is Michael Schiavo's testimony as to what Terri told him.


22 posted on 03/21/2005 8:06:11 PM PST by Trust but Verify (Pull up a chair and watch history being made.)
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To: JennysCool

...Particularly if he was trying to impress a pretty nurse.


23 posted on 03/21/2005 8:06:46 PM PST by JennysCool ("Only lie about the future." -Johnny Carson)
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To: Terriergal

Doesn't mean a thing. Michael has given testimony. People here call it hearsay. Get the picture?


24 posted on 03/21/2005 8:06:59 PM PST by Trust but Verify (Pull up a chair and watch history being made.)
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To: Terriergal

Doesn't mean a thing. Michael has given testimony. People here call it hearsay. Get the picture?


25 posted on 03/21/2005 8:07:00 PM PST by Trust but Verify (Pull up a chair and watch history being made.)
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To: Babu

That seems pretty self evident.


26 posted on 03/21/2005 8:07:54 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Trust but Verify
Yea..and this is "hearsay" too....

Here is another MD's report.

He tried to testify for her and was ignored.(William M. Hammesfahr, M.D.) It is basically his final conclusion of Terri's condition. I have left out parts because it is lengthy but I think you can get the jest.

If any one tries to tell you this MD is a quack like I have seen on other threads..ask yourself why our state reps/mds voted yes. Are they all quacks too? Impression:

The patient is not in coma.

She is alert and responsive to her environment.

She responds to specific people best.

She tries to please others by doing activities for which she gets verbal praise.

She responds negatively to poor tone of voice.

She responds to music.

She differentiates sounds from voices.

She differentiates specific people's voices from others.

She differentiates music from stray sound.

She attempts to verbalize.(!!!!!)

She has voluntary control over multiple extremities

She can swallow.(!!!!)

She is partially blind

She is probably aphasic and has a degree of receptive aphasia.

She can feel pain.

On this last point, it is interesting to observe that the records from Hospice show frequent medication administered for pain by staff.

With respect to specifics and specific recommendations in order to carry out the instructions of the Second District Court of Appeal:

From a neurological standpoint: The patient appears to be partially blind.

She needs a full opthamological (eye) evaluation and visual evoked potentials done to flash and checkerboard patters. The opthamological examination is to evaluate her retina and her ophthalmic nerve to try to determine the cause of her visual limitations and if any treatment exists. The evoked potentials looks at the nerve between the eye and the visual centers in the brain, to see if there is treatable damage and the type of damage, if any in these areas.

This is important, as for individuals to interact with her...

*snip*

Communication: She can communicate. She needs a Speech Therapist, Speech Pathologist, and a communications expert to evaluate how to best communicate with her and to allow her to communicate and for others to communicate with her.

Also, a treatment plan for how to develop better communication needs to be done.

*snip*

ENT: The patient can clearly swallow, and is able to swallow approximately 2 liters of water per day (the daily amount of saliva generated). Water is one of the most difficult things for people to swallow. It is unlikely that she currently needs the feeding tube.(!!!!!) She should be evaluated by an Ear Nose and Throat specialist, and have a new swallowing exam.

*snip*

Her physical exam and videotapes also suggest a spinal cord injury is also present, as she has much better control over he face, head, and neck, than over her arms and legs.

This reminds one of a person with a spinal cord injury who has good facial control, but poor use of arms and legs. It is possible that a correctable spinal abnormality such as a herniated disk may be found that could be treated and result in better neurological functioning. This should be looked for, as may be treatable.

Thus, there may be an injured disk or spinal cord; the disk injury is more treatable, the spinal cord injury, if present without a disk injury, may be more difficult to treat.

A person with a spinal cord injury and hypoxic encephalopathy will need different treatment and rehab recommendations than one who just has a hypoxic encephalopathic.

Interestingly, I have seen this pattern of mixed brain (cerebral) and spinal cord findings in a patient once before, a patient who was asphyxiated.

*snip*

____________________________ William M. Hammesfahr, M.D.

27 posted on 03/21/2005 8:11:15 PM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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To: Terriergal
I agree.

"Help me" was, in fact, one of her most frequent utterances. I heard her say it hundreds of times."

Everyone who has ignored that plea or used their political voice to silence it are monsters. I'm just flabbergasted our society has been become so apathetic to allow this but then again it was predicted about two hundred plus years ago. This just stinks beyond belief.

28 posted on 03/21/2005 8:13:09 PM PST by lizma
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To: Earthdweller

The medical diagnosis is moot because the HINO's will trumps all, by statute without limitation of Florida State Law.

Unfreakingbelievable!


29 posted on 03/21/2005 8:15:52 PM PST by Boardwalk
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To: Trust but Verify
Doesn't mean a thing. Michael has given testimony. People here call it hearsay. Get the picture?

Michael gives testimony that will result in him getting a LOT of money and a chance to marry the woman he is committing adulty with. (Of course he is, because he insists that Terri is his wife. He can't have it both ways)

Nurses give testimony that may result (and does) in at least one of them losing their jobs.

But motives NEVER have anything to do with who tells the truth and who lies.

30 posted on 03/21/2005 8:16:46 PM PST by feedback doctor (Mark Sanford and Condi Rice '08)
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To: Babu
It sure *reads* like it came from The National Enquirer.
31 posted on 03/21/2005 8:17:14 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Babu

I wonder if she dies if this creep could be charged with murder? Even a lessor charge of murder? Seems to me that if one helps by denial of medical care of another that if it leads to that persons demise, it could be a basis for charges?


32 posted on 03/21/2005 8:18:09 PM PST by crz
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To: Babu
Touche' Good Point!

(If I may be permitted a little French lingo)

33 posted on 03/21/2005 8:18:18 PM PST by TapTap (Gun control is being able to hit what you aim at.)
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To: Blogger
What is that judge waiting for?????

For his law clerks to read the legal brief.....Hopefully they are fast readers.
BTW what do we know about this judge....other than he is a Clinton appointee....What's his rate of turn over? Is he considered fair? Does he value life? Does he try to legislate from the bench?

34 posted on 03/21/2005 8:18:55 PM PST by hoosiermama (Party affiliation merits stating only if unique not common place.... R = unique. D=common place)
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To: crz
I wonder if she dies if this creep could be charged with murder? Even a lessor charge of murder? Seems to me that if one helps by denial of medical care of another that if it leads to that persons demise, it could be a basis for charges?

With the whole Democrap machine and Ye Old Media on his side, me doubts if Mr. Schiavo collects his bad karma in this world ...

35 posted on 03/21/2005 8:21:59 PM PST by Babu
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To: feedback doctor

What money is Michael going to get. I seem to remember him turning down a million bucks just last week. There goes the money motive. And he would be free to marry his new babe if he divorced Terri. Why hasn't he just divorced her? I'm not saying he's a swell guy. I'm just saying these arguments don't wash.


36 posted on 03/21/2005 8:22:14 PM PST by Trust but Verify (Pull up a chair and watch history being made.)
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To: hoosiermama

Well, if Bill Clinton could be of service here, we would be most obliged. A quick email to the judge perhaps?


37 posted on 03/21/2005 8:23:26 PM PST by Boardwalk
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To: Trust but Verify

What's a million bucks to the HINO on death row?


38 posted on 03/21/2005 8:25:21 PM PST by Boardwalk
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To: lizma
I'm just flabbergasted our society has been become so apathetic to allow this but then again it was predicted about two hundred plus years ago.

Rush was talking about Stahlin who let millions of Russians starving to death today on his show. Is this Michael another Stahlin? Is he in disguise being made what to say by his lawyer who wants to share in the money he is supposed to receive?

I believe there will be a special place in hell for him as well as those who take innocent lifes! Just my opinion!

39 posted on 03/21/2005 8:25:49 PM PST by Grassontop (God's judgement on man for terminating innocent life is'nt going to be a pleasant experience!)
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To: Trust but Verify

If the HINO turned down a million bucks, it was on the advice of his lawyer.


40 posted on 03/21/2005 8:26:57 PM PST by Boardwalk
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