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How Germans Fell for the 'Feel-Good' Fuehrer
Spiegel ^ | 03/22/05 | Jody K. Biehl

Posted on 03/22/2005 7:20:59 AM PST by Pikamax

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1 posted on 03/22/2005 7:20:59 AM PST by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax

sucker born every minute!


2 posted on 03/22/2005 7:22:19 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: Pikamax

Explaining Hitler's appeal over there is easy. It's the Hasslehoff thing that's more mystifying.


3 posted on 03/22/2005 7:22:46 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Pikamax
Jody isn't inviting us to draw parallels, is she?

To do so, he gave them huge tax breaks and introduced social benefits that even today anchor the society.

4 posted on 03/22/2005 7:25:44 AM PST by DManA
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Sounds amazingly similar to the methods of Democrats.


5 posted on 03/22/2005 7:27:42 AM PST by Gunner9mm
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After trying to ty Hitler to Bush and Reagan for tax breaks she has to admit that Hitler was a Socialist pure and simple.


6 posted on 03/22/2005 7:28:26 AM PST by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: Pikamax

Interesting. Napoleon fell into essentially the same trap. He had to keep expanding, as new plunder was essential to finance his existing military machine, on which his power was based. His attempt to expand into Russia was obviously one country too far, as was Hitler's attempt to do the same.


7 posted on 03/22/2005 7:29:18 AM PST by Restorer
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They were left-wing socialists. Yes, the National Socialist Workers Party of Germany, otherwise known as the Nazi Party, was indeed socialist, and it had a lot in common with the modern left. Hitler preached class warfare, agitating the working class to resist "exploitation" by capitalists -- particularly Jewish capitalists, of course. Their program called for the nationalization of education, health care, transportation, and other major industries. They instituted and vigorously enforced a strict gun control regimen. They encouraged pornography, illegitimacy, and abortion.

Public schools rewrote history and Hitler youth groups taught the children to report their parents to their teachers for anti-Nazi remarks. Such parents disappeared. Pagan animism became the state religion of the Third Reich and Christians were widely condemned as "right wing fanatics".

8 posted on 03/22/2005 7:34:09 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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They weren't called the National Socialist Party for nothing. Only today the socialists don't enslave a class of people. They take about half the earnings from the productive in taxes and re-distribute those taxes to a non-productive class who are numerically greater.


9 posted on 03/22/2005 7:35:58 AM PST by Inwoodian
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Of course; this explains Germany to a "t."


10 posted on 03/22/2005 7:36:08 AM PST by franksolich (Grzegorz, Lizol, Lukasz, & Fred, Advertising Agency)
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To: Restorer

Sargon the Great had the same problem. So did Genghis Khan. Once you've build this huge army that your economy cannot support, the only thing you can do is set it off in search of plunder to sustain it.

Peronist Argentina could be kept going on wartime commodity export profits. For a while. But then to keep the party of guaranteed profits and guaranteed raises going they had to print money. The presence of the US meant that Peronist Argentina couldn't invade Brazil.

With the destruction of the Jews, how many law practices, professorships, medical practices, business markets, etc did that open up ?


11 posted on 03/22/2005 7:39:33 AM PST by Sam the Sham
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To: Gunner9mm

low taxes? lol


12 posted on 03/22/2005 7:41:57 AM PST by PhillyGal
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To: Nov3

Undoubtedly this book is going to supply the socialist pro-tax and anti-war left in this country with ammunition. Of course, they will NEVER mention that Hitler and the Nazis were socialists.


13 posted on 03/22/2005 7:43:33 AM PST by sasportas
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Any depiction of the Nazis as "socialist" collapses in the face of the unshakeable fact that fascist violence was entirely directed against the left. Never the right. In fact, the conservative right (the Army, the Churches, High Society) survived intact and even prospered under fascism. Hitler and Mussolini were never in a position to replace their royalist generals with fascists. Under fascism the conservative right survived and prospered. The left was completely destroyed.

In fact, once the war was obviously lost it was the old boy network that was the basis of the peace party that plotted against both Hitler and Mussolini.


14 posted on 03/22/2005 7:44:22 AM PST by Sam the Sham
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The Left hates the Left. The Stalinists are always attacking the Trotskyites. The Communists hate the Socialists. The Socialists hate the Marxists.

The National Socialist Workers Party was a leftwing group.

15 posted on 03/22/2005 7:50:39 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: sasportas

Not once did Stalin mention Communism in his propaganda to rally the people. It was always the "Motherland". The same with Hitler.


16 posted on 03/22/2005 7:50:58 AM PST by unkus
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"The book could have been written 10 years ago, even 20 years ago," he says. All of the documents were there. We just weren't open to them. Personally, I didn't have the questions then."

There are plenty of books that have already been written with similar ideas, I've had to read a few of them. In my last semester of college all I needed was to collect a few credits. I liked history, so I took Nazi Germany because it fit my time slot. Well, this ex-Harvard professor comes in and give us the class reading list that included 5 rather large books, many of which covered the same things this article did. Apparently Germans weren't interested in these painful memories back then.

Germany was in terrible shape - European-wide economic depression, and they had taken the worst of it to go along with the brunt, blame and punishment for WWI. Hitler played on national pride to overcome his political competitors. Bit by bit, the people feeling better about themselves and began surrendering freedoms as a minor trade off. By the time people realized that things were amiss, they were already in too deep. The one thing Nazis did was to equate themselves to Nationalism. Anything said negatively against the Nazis was treasonous, and with secret police and fear running rampant - friends and neighbor would turn each other in. Nationalism became the excuse and justification for everything.


17 posted on 03/22/2005 7:51:33 AM PST by Sax
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The Stalinists are always attacking the Trotskyites. The Communists hate the Socialists. The Socialists hate the Marxists.

"My cousin Francis [I of France] and I are in complete agreement -- he wants Vienna, and so do I."
--Emperor Charles V

18 posted on 03/22/2005 7:52:38 AM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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Plus, he insists, it is always "much easier to say it was the fault of a small group of elites, the power-crazed SS commanders, or even big businesses" than to point to your own greed.

The truth of this seems to be lost on the Left in Iraq - where they insist that Saddam and a few henchmen were the only bad guys, and thus the invasion was unnecessary and we are acting as "imperialists". No dictatorship survives without significant popular support, and much of our post-war troubles have been caused by those supporters - who lived the good life under Saddam and face uncertain futures under a democratic government.

19 posted on 03/22/2005 7:52:48 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves
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Never the right. In fact, the conservative right (the Army, the Churches, High Society)

Please read your history.

Tens of thousands of Catholic priests were murdered in concentration camps.
Hitler raised taxes on the rich and confiscated their wealth. He was all for class warfare
The army was purges of all non party (Nazi) members

20 posted on 03/22/2005 7:55:36 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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