Wahhabi Islam: A History Lesson

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Why don't we see peace activists demonstrating in Iran, Syria, Iraq, Sudan, and North Korea; in the places in the world that really need peace activism the most?

Obviously because they're liars and cowards who's real agenda is full of hatred and greed.

I am not relgious because I believe that all religions cause hatred

Gee, you signed up today just to expose yourself as an atheist and a liberal?

While not wanting to "take on all Islam" - it would be an enormous mistake for the west not to realize (peaceful muslim people notwithstanding) that the core of Islam is both terroristically hegemonistic and an historical bloodbath.

I draw a distinction between Islam (the religious ideology) and Muslims ( human beings who currently follow Islam ). Islam is inherently evil. Its core embraces murder, robbery, and conquest. For Western civilization to endure, it must be defeated, just like National Socialism and Communism. This does not mean that all human individuals currently caught up in the ideology are evil beyond repair

The radical mullahs, and the wealthy ones who finance them, must go. After removing them from the environment, perhaps the rest can be redeemed

Eurostudent, you requested citations, foot notes and references in order to give the authors view any credibility. Perhaps the following will suffice. The quotes in italics are from Raymond Kraft, the author of the article posted at the beginning of this thread. The links following each quote are for your edification.

The Jihadis, or the militant Muslims, are basically Nazis in Kaffiyahs. They believe that Islam, a radically conservative (definitely not liberal) form of Wahhabi Islam, should own and control the Middle East first, then Europe and then the world. All who do not bow to Allah should be killed, enslaved, or subjugated. They want to finish the Holocaust, destroy Israel, and purge the world of Jews. This is what they say.

[Islam] A rare look at secretive Brotherhood in America

The Islamic States of America?

Ayman al-Zawahiri - THE MAN BEHIND BIN LADEN

Abdullah Azzam 'The Godfather of Jihad'

Yes, the Jihadis say that they look forward to an Islamic America. If you oppose this war, I hope you like the idea that your children, or grandchildren, may live in an Islamic America under the Mullahs and the Sharia, an America that resembles Iran today

American Jihad

Jihad in Islam

Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders - World Islamic Front Statement

Muhammad, Islam, and Terrorism

AMERICA, ISLAM, JIHAD, AND TERRORISM

Eurostudent, you stated that you do not follow any particular religion. Fine by me, that is your choice. But what is religion, any religion? It is a philosophy, a set of beliefs and values that individuals choose to believe and follow.

More than one religion has a variety of sects. For example, within Christianity, you have Baptists, Methodists, Catholics, etc. The same holds true with the religion, or philosophy, of Islam. You have Sunni, Shia, Whabbi, etc. They all have varying tenets based on the core philosophy set down by Muhammad. As in all religions, some sects of Islam are more extreme than others. It is the most extreme of these that the terrorists embrace and hide behind.

In your post you said "that we cannot blame Islam for being a religion based on evil and hatred."

You have every right to believe that just as I have every right to disagree with your statement. There are many sects of Islam (referenced in the above links) that are based on evil and hatred. I blame the people, the individual Muslims, who have chosen this particular path, this philosophy, as there creed in life. They have chosen evil and hatred. Yes, many wars have been waged in the name of religion. But, again it was people who made the choices to wage these wars.

You also stated, "The West should, at no point, attempt to convert or blame Islam for anything.

I am at a loss to find where a western government has stated their goal is to convert Islam. If you could provide a link I would appreciate it. As for blaming Islam, as I already stated, the blame lies with the individual people and the choices they make.

Again, from your post, "Instead our goals should be to bring peace, democracy and freedom to those parts of the worlds that are most in need of it. This should be done without force, as forcing our own beliefs on other nationalities breaches the freedom that we are supposed to promote.

I would like to join you in hoping we can reach these goals of peace, democracy and freedom. I believe most western people do want such. As far as obtaining these goals without force I'm going to choose reality over idealism.

Reality is that America, and American facilities in other countries, have been repeating attacked for the last 25 years by radical Muslims. These Muslims have made the choice to provoke us to finally defend our freedom. Defending our citizens is not forcing our beliefs on anyone. How many times should we be attacked, how many lives should be lost, before we stand up and say enough? War is a very ugly thing, but, in my opinion, so is weakness. I am very glad that America is not showing weakness and is finally standing up to the terrorists, who at this time in history, happen to be Islamic Muslims.