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Bush decries border project
Washington Times ^ | March 24, 2005 | James G. Lakely

Posted on 03/24/2005 7:52:05 AM PST by mikemikemikecubed

Edited on 03/24/2005 5:24:25 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

WACO, Texas -- President Bush yesterday said he opposes a civilian project to monitor illegal aliens crossing the border, characterizing them as "vigilantes." He said he would pressure Congress to further loosen immigration law. More than 1,000 people -- including 30 pilots and their private planes -- have volunteered for the Minuteman Project, beginning next month along the Arizona-Mexico border. Civilians will monitor the movement of illegal aliens for the month of April and report them to the Border Patrol. Mr. Bush said after yesterday's continental summit, with Mexican President Vicente Fox and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin at Baylor University, that he finds such actions unacceptable. "I'm against vigilantes in the United States of America," Mr. Bush said at a joint press conference. "I'm for enforcing the law in a rational way." The Minuteman Project was born out of a long-held perception among many residents that more Border Patrol agents are needed to handle the flow of illegal immigrants. Mr. Bush was criticized by both Republicans and Democrats earlier this month for failing to add 2,000 agents to the Border Patrol, as set out in the intelligence overhaul legislation he signed in December. The president's 2006 budget allows enough money to add only 210 agents for the U.S. borders with Canada and Mexico. Mr. Bush said he will "continue to push for reasonable, common-sense immigration policy." He has proposed legislation to grant guest-worker status to millions of illegal aliens already in the United States. The legislation has attracted scant support in Congress, where it is widely regarded as another amnesty that will encourage even more illegal immigration.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderpatrol; bordersecurity; bush; bush43; bushdoctrineunfold; buttboyjorgearbusto; donutwatch; fox; gop; govwatch; immigration; jamesglakely; minutemanproject; paragraphsrfriends; rnc
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I have grown tired of Mr. Fox. We gave you NAFTA. Now improve your country and stop encouraging your citizens to illegally migrate here, Mr. Fox!
1 posted on 03/24/2005 7:52:08 AM PST by mikemikemikecubed
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To: mikemikemikecubed

bump


2 posted on 03/24/2005 7:54:08 AM PST by blackeagle
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To: mikemikemikecubed

Too bad, Mr. President, but you're just plain wrong. You have a nation to protect - not a global economic bloc.


3 posted on 03/24/2005 7:54:45 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Every morning we awaken to a new dawn is reason enough to celebrate - have a drink, Teddy!)
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To: mikemikemikecubed

"I'm for enforcing the law in a rational way."

THEN DO IT!


4 posted on 03/24/2005 7:54:53 AM PST by mikeus_maximus
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To: mikemikemikecubed

President Bush yesterday said he opposes a civilian project to monitor illegal aliens crossing the border, characterizing them as "vigilantes."

Do your job Mr. President and secure our borders or we'll get somebody who will.


5 posted on 03/24/2005 7:55:23 AM PST by agitator (...And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark)
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To: mikemikemikecubed; A. Pole

Gotta keep wages artificially suppressed somehow.


6 posted on 03/24/2005 7:55:27 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: mikeus_maximus; SheLion

this is outrageous PING


7 posted on 03/24/2005 7:55:50 AM PST by kingattax (If you're cross-eyed and dyslexic, can you read all right ?)
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To: mikemikemikecubed
"I'm for enforcing the law in a rational way."

By ignoring it?
8 posted on 03/24/2005 7:56:19 AM PST by moehoward
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To: mikemikemikecubed

Don't blame Fox. He's just doing his job which is to look out for Mexico. Blame Bush. It is his job to put the well being of this country ahead of cheap labor and he's not doing it.


9 posted on 03/24/2005 7:57:08 AM PST by Sam the Sham
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To: mikemikemikecubed

The first terrorist attack we have by individuals coming across the border from Mexico Bush will have hell to pay. He's got blinders on and is ignoring the dangers surrounding his misguided policy. His hardheaded attitude on this issue will be his undoing.


10 posted on 03/24/2005 7:57:20 AM PST by Russ
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To: agitator

This plays right into Hellary's hands. Just plain stupid..we are being INVADED


11 posted on 03/24/2005 7:57:57 AM PST by kingattax (If you're cross-eyed and dyslexic, can you read all right ?)
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To: mikemikemikecubed

Bush could always try to send troops in to stop Americans from protecting their own country, and in the process get impeached post haste. That is if it doesn't start a Revolution. His idiocy in regards to our Borders is beyond appalling.


12 posted on 03/24/2005 7:58:27 AM PST by JustAnAmerican (Being Independent means never having to say you're Partisan)
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To: mikemikemikecubed
I have grown tired of Mr. Fox

I have grown tired of Mr Bush on immigration and the rule of law.

13 posted on 03/24/2005 7:58:37 AM PST by montag813
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To: agitator

Can someone please explain Bush's apparent lack of logic on border control?


14 posted on 03/24/2005 7:58:37 AM PST by sarasota
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To: mikemikemikecubed

If our government enforced the laws on our books, we wouldn't be in this situation.

I wonder what the possibility of victims of illegal aliens' crimes suing personally those responsible to enforce immigration laws might do to change some attitudes.


15 posted on 03/24/2005 7:58:39 AM PST by thoughtomator (Murder by Judges, 1 - 2 - 3, it's as easy to learn as your ABCBSCNNMSNBCs)
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To: mikemikemikecubed

Between murdering Terry Schiavo and kowtowing to our enemies, I've just about lost interest in the continued government of the United States.


16 posted on 03/24/2005 7:59:55 AM PST by Sloth (I don't post a lot of the threads you read; I make a lot of the threads you read better.)
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To: mikemikemikecubed

Why not just not build a four lane highway through the fence in Nogales all the way to Tucson with water and taco stands along with a food stamp kiosk and be done with the Border Patrol.


17 posted on 03/24/2005 8:00:40 AM PST by Semper Paratus (:)
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To: mikemikemikecubed

Vigilantes? No Mr. President...the Minutemen are American citizens (your bosses) assisting in the enforcement of our duly enacted immigration laws...our Founders would have called them part of the citizen militia

From Madison's Federalist 46 speaking of the danger of an oppressive federal government backed by its regular military:

"To these would be opposed a militia amounting to near half a million of citizens with arms in their hands, officered by men chosen from among themselves, fighting for their common liberties, and united and conducted by governments possessing their affections and confidence."


18 posted on 03/24/2005 8:00:48 AM PST by Irontank
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To: Sloth

I'm with you on this one. This could be the GOP's undoing.


19 posted on 03/24/2005 8:00:48 AM PST by sarasota
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To: mikemikemikecubed

So when it really comes down to it, Bush supports Mexicans instead of American citizens. Why did I vote for the aHole?


20 posted on 03/24/2005 8:00:55 AM PST by afz400
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To: mikemikemikecubed
President Bush is filled with compassion for poor Mexican and his rich elite buddies who want an unending supply of cheap labor.

I wish just once he would show a little compassion for America's working poor and a little empathy for the problems of America's middle class.

He could start by explaining how when we open America's job market to all of the world's 6 billion poor people how we will stop wages from falling from the current prevailing wage as every new job gets advertised at $5.15 per hour.

He could then explain how middle class high tech workers will be protected from well educated Indians willing to work at half the price.

He could then explain who is going to pick up the tab for the impact of importing an unlimited number of new people on schools, hospitals, jails, social programs and highways and other infrastructure.

I'd like a little serving of compassion for Americans mixed in with my conservatism please.

21 posted on 03/24/2005 8:01:35 AM PST by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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To: agitator

Don't blame me. I threw my vote away.


22 posted on 03/24/2005 8:01:44 AM PST by Stu Cohen (Press '1' for English)
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To: mikemikemikecubed
President Bush yesterday said he opposes a civilian project to monitor illegal aliens crossing the border, characterizing them as "vigilantes."

Mr. President, these are people who are just doing the jobs government doesn't want.

23 posted on 03/24/2005 8:02:11 AM PST by NRA1995 ("Yew jes' go and lay yore hand on a Pittsburgh Steelers fan & Ah think yer gonna fin'lly understand")
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To: Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; Jhoffa_; FITZ; arete; FreedomPoster; Red Jones; Pyro7480; ...
Mr. Fox, who has said he seeks an open border, has applied constant pressure on Mr. Bush to get the guest-worker program through Congress. Mr. Bush has pledged that he will do all he can.

Bump.

24 posted on 03/24/2005 8:02:12 AM PST by A. Pole (Working three jobs - uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic, oooh yeah, yeah, hehe.)
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To: agitator

He will do exactly what he wants to. No fear of being voted out of office now.


25 posted on 03/24/2005 8:02:18 AM PST by RonPaulLives (Never trust anything ending in "u." For example, "DU," "EU," "I love you")
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To: mikemikemikecubed

Fox? I'm damned tired of Jorge.

Shut the F up, George, and DO YOUR JOB!


26 posted on 03/24/2005 8:02:53 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: mikemikemikecubed

Minuteman Project....just doing the job American politicians won't do.


27 posted on 03/24/2005 8:03:07 AM PST by sheana
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To: mikemikemikecubed


From the Terry Schiavo Case to this

When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bonds which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

http://www.livejournal.com/users/chaosin0


28 posted on 03/24/2005 8:03:13 AM PST by devnull (Your conduct is just wrong.........you should have taken a dump on the Kerry signs.)
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To: sarasota
Can someone please explain Bush's apparent lack of logic on border control?

We knew his policy on this issue well before the election. I can't really fathom anyone's surprise. It's not like he lied to the people. He said he wanted amnesty, and that is what he is pursuing.

What did everyone expect? If he's a man of his word, he's a man of his word, and he promised to pursue amnesty.

29 posted on 03/24/2005 8:03:50 AM PST by Stu Cohen (Press '1' for English)
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To: Happy2BMe

Its here.


30 posted on 03/24/2005 8:04:29 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: mikemikemikecubed
I like George Bush a lot but he's daft on this subject. He has yet to justify why we should allow illegals into America.

The only reason I can figure is that we have killed so many people via abortion that would have become taxpayers Bush figures we need all the warm bodies we can get and eventually they can pay taxes.

31 posted on 03/24/2005 8:05:28 AM PST by isthisnickcool (This space for rent.)
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To: sarasota

Neuen Weld Ordnung


32 posted on 03/24/2005 8:05:29 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: Semper Paratus
Why not just not build a four lane highway through the fence in Nogales all the way to Tucson with water and taco stands along with a food stamp kiosk and be done with the Border Patrol.

LOL I think that is actually part of the administrations immigration policy.

33 posted on 03/24/2005 8:06:02 AM PST by conserv13
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To: mikemikemikecubed
From Polipundit, and I will add that I agree:

President Bush, on the volunteer Minuteman Project, which is spotting illegal aliens entering the US:

"I’m against vigilantes in the United States of America. I’m for enforcing law in a rational way. That’s why you got a Border Patrol, and they ought to be in charge of enforcing the border".

This from a president whose administration refuses to fund the Border Patrol.

This from a president whose Department of “Homeland Security” actively refuses to enforce immigration laws.

This from a president who has proposed a massive amnesty for the millions of illegal aliens who’ve broken our immigration laws.

This from a president who has allowed illegal immigration to increase after the September 11, 2001, attacks.

34 posted on 03/24/2005 8:06:53 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: NRA1995

Spot On!!!


35 posted on 03/24/2005 8:06:55 AM PST by RiverDrifter
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To: Stu Cohen

...Don't blame me. I threw my vote away...

Yeah, me too, I voted for this idiot twice!


36 posted on 03/24/2005 8:07:00 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: agitator

Absolutely correct. I just lost some respect for President Bush, something I thought would never happen.


37 posted on 03/24/2005 8:07:03 AM PST by yellowdoghunter (Children need two-parent homes, hopefully the ones who actually made them.)
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To: mikemikemikecubed
Q (As translated.) Mr. Presidents and Mr. Prime Minister, I wanted to ask you what concrete actions do your governments want to lay out in order to make this partnership a reality as far as energy markets, which is a very critical issue for all of our countries -- energy markets? I also want to ask you in this security and prosperity partnership, when will you include the migratory, or immigration policy in this partnership?

And, President Bush, I wanted to ask you about your opinion about those people who are hunting migrant people along the border.

PRESIDENT BUSH: I'm against vigilantes in the United States of America. I'm for enforcing law in a rational way. That's why you got a Border Patrol, and they ought to be in charge of enforcing the border.

No mention of the "The Minuteman Project" project in the Q&A, yet the reporter invents a story linking the two.

I'm just aghast that the Washington Times would be so sloppy/sarcasm.

38 posted on 03/24/2005 8:08:16 AM PST by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve to keep us free)
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To: Stu Cohen
We knew his policy on this issue well before the election. I can't really fathom anyone's surprise. It's not like he lied to the people. He said he wanted amnesty, and that is what he is pursuing.

Yeah, we were given the choice of bad (Bush) or worse (Kerry).

But he acts like we gave him a mandate for this stuff when he only mentioned it twice during the campaign because every time he did, the reaction was so negative. Actually I should correct myself. He only mentioned it twice in English prior to the election. He continued to advertise it in Spanish on his website.

39 posted on 03/24/2005 8:08:35 AM PST by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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To: mikemikemikecubed

Unbelievable! F'ing unbelievable. America is defending everyone on earth but ourselves-the Government won't protect our nation's soverienty, and forbids any American from doing anything on their own!!!!

Vigilantes?

I am just plain d*mn flabbergasted!!!!!!!!!



40 posted on 03/24/2005 8:08:54 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Hillary Rodhamclinton is phonier than a three dollar bill clinton.)
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To: yellowdoghunter
Absolutely correct. I just lost some respect for President Bush, something I thought would never happen

Bush said he was going to do this before the election.

Did you not believe him?

Why did you just now lose respect when he proposed this last year?

41 posted on 03/24/2005 8:10:44 AM PST by Stu Cohen (Press '1' for English)
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To: sarasota
Can someone please explain Bush's apparent lack of logic on border control?

Latin Vote, that's it and that's all.

42 posted on 03/24/2005 8:10:48 AM PST by rattrap
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To: HiJinx

ping


43 posted on 03/24/2005 8:11:31 AM PST by CONSERVE
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To: jackbenimble

My only hope is that Congress won't support his wishes. We need to get on it and stay on it.


44 posted on 03/24/2005 8:12:14 AM PST by sarasota
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To: sarasota
"Can someone please explain Bush's apparent lack of logic on border control?"

NAFTA, the unpublished parts.

45 posted on 03/24/2005 8:12:22 AM PST by jpsb
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To: Stu Cohen

"I threw my vote away."

You mean you didn't help "loose to Kerry"?


46 posted on 03/24/2005 8:12:32 AM PST by looscnnn ("Olestra (Olean) applications causes memory leaks" PC Confusious)
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To: afz400
Why did I vote for the aHole?

Because with John Kerry as the other option, we really did not have a choice.
47 posted on 03/24/2005 8:12:37 AM PST by speed_addiction (Ninja's last words, "Hey guys. Watch me just flip out on that big dude over there!")
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To: isthisnickcool
He has yet to justify why we should allow illegals into America

Its not justifiable in terms of American sovereignty. However, the reason the borders are open is that there are many in Washington who desire a western hemispheric union. The "ministers" who are negotiating this to happen have stated that there must be a free flow of "migrants" into the United States-- this was decided at the second Summit of the Americas--

Migrant Workers

Governments will: (Not May or Shall>

- Reaffirm that the promotion and protection of human rights and the fundamental freedoms for all, without distinction by reasons of race, gender, language, nationality, or religion, is a priority for the international community and is the responsibility of every state.

- Comply with the applicable international human rights instruments and, consistent with the legal framework of each country, guarantee the human rights of all migrants, including migrant workers and their families.

- Seek full compliance with, and protection of, the human rights of all migrants, including migrant workers, and their families, and adopt effective measures, including the strengthening of public awareness, to prevent and eradicate violations of human rights and eliminate all forms of discrimination against them, particularly racial discrimination, xenophobia, and related intolerance.

- Reaffirm the sovereign right of each State to formulate and apply its own legal framework and policies for migration, including the granting of permission to migrants to enter, stay, or exercise economic activity, in full conformity with applicable international instruments relating to human rights and in a spirit of cooperation.

- Seek full respect for, and compliance with, the 1963 Vienna Convention on Consular Relations, especially as it relates to the right of nationals, regardless of their immigration status, to communicate with a consular officer of their own State in case of detention.

- Protect the rights of all migrant workers and their families, consistent with each country´s internal legal framework, by taking steps, in case they do not exist, to: 1) provide, with respect to working conditions, the same legal protection as for national workers; 2) facilitate, as appropriate, the payment of full wages owed when the worker has returned to his/her country, and allow them to arrange the transfer of their personal effects; 3) recognize the rights of citizenship and nationality of the children of all migrant workers who may be entitled to such rights, and any other rights they may have in each country; 4) encourage the negotiation of bilateral or multilateral agreements, regarding the remission of social security benefits accrued by migrant workers; 5) protect all migrant workers and their families, through law enforcement and information campaigns, from becoming victims of exploitation and abuse from alien smuggling; 6) prevent abuse and mistreatment of all migrant workers by employers or any authorities entrusted with the enforcement of migration policies and border control; and 7) encourage and promote respect for the cultural identity of all migrants.

- Support the activities of the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights with regard to the protection of the rights of migrant workers and their families, particularly through the Special Rapporteur for Migrant Workers.


http://www.cicad.oas.org/en/basicdocuments/cicad-basic-documents-summit2-planaction.htm
48 posted on 03/24/2005 8:12:37 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Presidente Jorge Arbusto is derelict in his duties to protect our nation's borders in time of war.
49 posted on 03/24/2005 8:12:44 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: jackbenimble
Yeah, we were given the choice of bad (Bush) or worse (Kerry).

But he acts like we gave him a mandate for this stuff when he only mentioned it twice during the campaign because every time he did, the reaction was so negative. Actually I should correct myself. He only mentioned it twice in English prior to the election. He continued to advertise it in Spanish on his website.

The "lessor of two evils" things is getting a little thin. I don't think it was the intent of the forefathers to be this wat. Either resign yourself to this kind of silly stuff, or start throwing your votes away from the status-quo party.

If you vote for the guy knowing his policy, it's kinda hard to complain afterward.

50 posted on 03/24/2005 8:13:05 AM PST by Stu Cohen (Press '1' for English)
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