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Michael Schiavo's Heart Disease (Great Editorial Cartoon)
Human Events Online ^ | March 24, 2005 | Sam Ryskind

Posted on 03/24/2005 8:38:47 AM PST by hinterlander



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: clausvonbulow; death; dehydration; letusweep; michael; schiavo; schindler; starvation; terri; terrischiavo
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1 posted on 03/24/2005 8:38:54 AM PST by hinterlander
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To: hinterlander

Wow! Carl Levin is Michael Schiavo's doctor???


2 posted on 03/24/2005 8:41:21 AM PST by The G Man (The Red States ... the world's only hope for survival.)
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To: hinterlander

Michael Schaivo should thank his lucky stars that I or someone like me is not Terri's father or brother.


3 posted on 03/24/2005 8:42:09 AM PST by Neville72
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To: hinterlander

That is a great cartoon.


4 posted on 03/24/2005 8:43:06 AM PST by queenkathy (I'm praying for that God will perform a miracle.)
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To: The G Man

Dude, that is priceless. Take a C-Span break ;)


5 posted on 03/24/2005 8:43:18 AM PST by lawnguy (But we both know I'm training to be a cage fighter.)
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To: The G Man

LOL!


6 posted on 03/24/2005 8:43:24 AM PST by beeler (Shoot first, ask questions later.)
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To: hinterlander

Who can "order" an autopsy on Terri Shaivo after she passes? If there is proof that she was not in a persistent vegetative state or proof that her husband caused her "heart attack," how about her husband being charged with murder?


7 posted on 03/24/2005 8:48:49 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: hinterlander
If Terri was a child, no Judge on Earth would prohibit CFS from taking custody and investigating the allegations of abuse.

So why on Earth does he refuse to allow CFS to take custody of Terri? What's his payoff?

8 posted on 03/24/2005 8:49:25 AM PST by HighlyOpinionated (SAVE TERRI SCHIAVO'S LIFE -- send in the Guard or Marshals. Let's Roll!)
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To: Neville72
Michael Schaivo should thank his lucky stars that I or someone like me is not Terri's father or brother.

My thoughts as well.

9 posted on 03/24/2005 8:53:17 AM PST by badbass
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To: Neville72

If she were my daughter - this mom would be going after someone with a fire arm. I honestly don't know whether my first target would be those guarding her door or M Schiavo. Hard call.


10 posted on 03/24/2005 8:56:06 AM PST by Julie(LCR) (democrats thrive when good people sit back and do nothing)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Autopsy would prove nothing. There would be no way to measure brain activity if she is dead and that would have been the only thing that could have saved her.


11 posted on 03/24/2005 8:58:49 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: hinterlander
When it comes to Michael Schiavo , I pray for divine retribution. I want him disabled and on a feeding tube, and his new squeeze in love with another another man. That would be justice.
12 posted on 03/24/2005 9:00:40 AM PST by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: HighlyOpinionated
So why on Earth does he refuse to allow CFS to take custody of Terri? What's his payoff?

I think this is the point - Michael Shiavo is not looking for a payoff. Didn't somebody offer him a million bucks to sign over custody to Teri's parents? I think this guy is getting a really bum rap. The only reason he'd have for doing what he's doing is because he knows Teri isn't going to recover and that she would not have wanted to "live" this way indefinitely.

Come on people, she's been like this for fifteen years. She's just running on brain stem.

13 posted on 03/24/2005 9:01:05 AM PST by Another-MA-Conservative
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To: hinterlander

When Terri Schiavo dies, as her husband has willed that she should, I say let every bell in the land toll. For it will toll not only for Terri, but for the United States Constitution, which acknowledges that our right to life is determined by a higher power.


14 posted on 03/24/2005 9:01:24 AM PST by sageb1
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To: hinterlander

The Empire Journal's lead article says Gov Bush expected in Pinellas Park at 12 EST. Is he there yet? Did he bring troops? (Copyright dispute prohibits posting from TEJ.)


15 posted on 03/24/2005 9:01:50 AM PST by knittnmom
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To: Another-MA-Conservative

Michael Schaivo will get what's coming to him. Surely later but perhaps sooner.


16 posted on 03/24/2005 9:03:55 AM PST by Neville72
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To: Another-MA-Conservative

Seems the only answer that explains all of his actions. She really did say to him, if I'm in that situation pull the plug.

Its also I'm sure why he hasn't divorced her to remarry his girlfriend. He doesn't want to give up the legal guardianship.


17 posted on 03/24/2005 9:04:32 AM PST by ran15
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To: hinterlander

18 posted on 03/24/2005 9:04:56 AM PST by gopwinsin04
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To: Another-MA-Conservative
I think this is the point - Michael Shiavo is not looking for a payoff. Didn't somebody offer him a million bucks to sign over custody to Teri's parents?

He bought a large life insurance policy from his girl friend. She worked for an insurance company when they met. Terri also has a $1 million settlement in a trust fund. He makes twice as much if she dies.

19 posted on 03/24/2005 9:05:37 AM PST by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: hinterlander

He joins a long list of wife killers.
OJ
Peterson
Blake
etc...


20 posted on 03/24/2005 9:06:49 AM PST by US_MilitaryRules (My tagline was censored.)
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To: hinterlander

Michael Schiavo is every mother's nightmare ............................


21 posted on 03/24/2005 9:08:00 AM PST by lionheart 247365
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To: Neville72
Michael Schaivo should thank his lucky stars
that I or someone like me is not Terri's father or brother.

Amen!
If Terri were my daughter, the sun would not set before I dispatched him,
on the day that Terri dies.

22 posted on 03/24/2005 9:11:35 AM PST by trickyricky
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To: ExTexasRedhead

No one can order an autopsy. Judge Greer has prohibited food and water be administered and has prohibited an autopsy. He has also ordered that her remains be immediately cremated.

Pure evil.

" I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just. " A. Lincoln


23 posted on 03/24/2005 9:13:34 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: US_MilitaryRules
He joins a long list of wife killers. OJ Peterson Blake etc...

The circumstances are not the same. OJ and Blake got off, so technically they are not guilty. Peterson killed his healthy wife and dumped her body in the SF bay.

24 posted on 03/24/2005 9:13:48 AM PST by conserv13
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To: Neville72
Michael Schaivo will get what's coming to him. Surely later but perhaps sooner.

I don't get it. What is "coming to him"? If this were your wife, would you keep her "alive" in this state for 15 years? 40 years? What if she had expressed to you that she didn't want to live in that state indefinitely, but you never bothered to get it in writing?

What if it were you? Personally, if it were me, I'd want the tube pulled. If I'm just a brain stem, I'm sure not going to be aware that I'm starving to death. Even worse, if I were consciously aware but otherwise trapped in a dead body with no way to communicate and no hope of recovery, I'd be praying for two weeks of starvation leading, finally, to the end of that 15 years of living hell.

Michael isn't the one with no heart; it's everybody else with a morbid fascination in keeping this poor woman "alive" that has no heart.

25 posted on 03/24/2005 9:13:50 AM PST by Another-MA-Conservative
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To: US_MilitaryRules
He joins a long list of wife killers.

He's committed the perfect murder.
According to medical records held by the parents, Terri had mutable broken bones and a neck injury when she collapsed. Her husband was originally accused of attempted murder, but the investigation was, for some reason, stopped. It all went hush hush. From that point on, no one knows why Terri collapsed. Her husband wouldn't let anyone investigate.
If he did try to kill her, he botched it. Because of current law, he can now demand the state finish the job for him.

People can sense when something is not right. The court said OJ was innocent, but the people knew different. Terri's case is the same way. People know something is being hidden that has not yet been reveled.

26 posted on 03/24/2005 9:13:52 AM PST by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: McGavin999

An autopsy could find evidence of old fractures, however.


27 posted on 03/24/2005 9:15:31 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: HighlyOpinionated
So why on Earth does he refuse to allow CFS to take custody of Terri? What's his payoff?

Hopefully, eternity in Hell!

28 posted on 03/24/2005 9:15:36 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org • Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Another-MA-Conservative
Then what's the rush - why not allow an extension and investigation that could prove him right all along.
I think he's afraid of the investigation - that it might
prove he neglected her or worse.
29 posted on 03/24/2005 9:16:05 AM PST by groovychick (I have nothing to say for myself)
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To: sageb1

..GOD did not remove Terri's feeding tube......and the constitution did not intend judges to remove it either. What are you trying to say here ?


30 posted on 03/24/2005 9:16:29 AM PST by lionheart 247365
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To: ExTexasRedhead
Who can "order" an autopsy on Terri Shaivo after she passes? If there is proof that she was not in a persistent vegetative state or proof that her husband caused her "heart attack," how about her husband being charged with murder?

Michael Schaivo also got Greer to issue an order that Terri's body will be immediately cremated upon her death without an autopsy being performed.

31 posted on 03/24/2005 9:16:54 AM PST by carolinablonde
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To: 2nd amendment mama
So why on Earth does he refuse to allow CFS to take custody of Terri? What's his payoff?

A $1 million dollar trust fund and a huge life insurance policy. As a nurse put in her sworn affidavit, he'd be "Rich, rich, rich!"

32 posted on 03/24/2005 9:17:53 AM PST by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: Another-MA-Conservative
Thanks. You are in the minority on FR on this issue. Join the club.

I actually think she should be kept alive because there is a genuine dispute between the husband and the parents. However, the way our legal system works when there is a dispute it goes to court, and this case has been before 23 different judges and the supreme court - 5 times!

Each time they have decided for the husband.

33 posted on 03/24/2005 9:18:45 AM PST by conserv13
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To: afraidfortherepublic

And that would prove what? That she fell off her bike? That she broke something when she fell as a result of her heart attack? That she bumped into something?


34 posted on 03/24/2005 9:21:28 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: concerned about politics

If someone dispatched Mike now. Would the parents be able to make the call on the feeding tube and subsequent treatment? No Mike= parents allowed to make call, right?


35 posted on 03/24/2005 9:22:36 AM PST by BookaT
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To: Neville72

Would you recreate the chain-saw shower scene from Scarface? Like I would.


36 posted on 03/24/2005 9:22:55 AM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: concerned about politics

I believe the original question related to judge "God" greer. That's why I responded the way I did.


37 posted on 03/24/2005 9:24:13 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org • Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The bone scan already determined that. Read Dr. Walker's deposition. A compression fracture of L-1 is no bicycle accident.


38 posted on 03/24/2005 9:24:58 AM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: Another-MA-Conservative

There is a book deal, other financial gains, as well as him preventing an autopsy that might reveal extensive abuse.


39 posted on 03/24/2005 9:25:43 AM PST by Dante3
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To: Neville72

I hear ya. I wouldn't want to be in his shoes when Terri passes and this whole thing (as far as he is concerned) blows over. I'd say he and his little "family" have probably been inundated with hate mail,death threats and other such nasties.

Just as it should be. It's only fitting he gets what he deserves.


40 posted on 03/24/2005 9:26:37 AM PST by gimme1ibertee (It's not "Right To Die"...It's "Right To Live"!!)
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To: Another-MA-Conservative

#1. If she were my wife I wouldn't have taken up with another woman and fathered two children out of wedlock.

#2. If she were my wife I wouldn't have withheld treatment and therapy from her for 15 years thus guarenteeing she had no chance to get any better.

#3. If she were my wife, I would welcome any and all medical opinions that might help her; not prevent any opinions that differed with the euthansia proponents who have treated her so far.

Michael Schaivo is a monster who will get what's coming to him


41 posted on 03/24/2005 9:26:57 AM PST by Neville72
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To: BookaT

I wondered about that this morning. That's be two wonderful news stories at the same time! Talk about two birds with one stone...


42 posted on 03/24/2005 9:29:58 AM PST by bust (A biased media is the biggest threat to our democracy...)
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To: hinterlander
I have taught my 7 year old daughter and 5 year old son to defend themselves against adults. Each can claw your eyes out, bite and hold on like a snapping turtle, kick in the groin, run away in a mad dash and scream for help at the top of their lungs.

This case has confirmed, with no uncertain gravity, how close to home someone may need to use these skills if they have ever taken a tangent of bad judgment with a relationship.

Mostly, I am working hard to ensure that my kids grow to be happy, self confident adults so they are not vulnerable to be suckered by a Michael Schaivo type in the first place.

If that doesn't work...I can't type here what I'd do to the inhuman piece of filth that would do to my child what Michael Schaivo is doing to Teri. It wouldn't have gone this far.

43 posted on 03/24/2005 9:33:01 AM PST by Ghengis (Alexander was a wuss!)
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To: hinterlander

btt


44 posted on 03/24/2005 9:35:54 AM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: concerned about politics

Ah yes -- but you make the assumption that Michael Schiavo LOVES the unwed mother of his bastard children...

You make the assumption that Michael Schiavo is CAPABLE of loving anyone except himself.

He has broken more vows, committments and statements of intent, than one can count...

If half of what I've heard about Michael's treatment of his wife is true -- and she was MY daugher ---- he would have "disappeared" from the face of the earth and been worm food a LOOOOONG time ago...

I'm a serious as a heart attack about that....


Semper Fi


45 posted on 03/24/2005 9:35:57 AM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: conserv13
Each time they have decided for the husband.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Have not the other courts only ruled only on the evidence allowed by 'Judge' Greer? Have they heard the numerous evidence that controverts the Felos/Schaivo argument that Greer will exclusively listen to?

46 posted on 03/24/2005 9:37:57 AM PST by Ghengis (Alexander was a wuss!)
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To: conserv13
"Each time they have decided for the husband.

Keep in mind -- the FloriDUH Supreme Court is still stacked with the leftist lunatics who attempted to rewrite the election laws of Florida in 2000 to provide a stolen victory for Algore...

REMEMBER? They were OVERRULED by the U.S. Supreme Court..

STILL want to quote the FloriDUH Court as the final word on what is right.

Semper Fi

47 posted on 03/24/2005 9:43:56 AM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

That would be ok, but it would be a travesty of justice if Judge Greer wasn't charged as well!


48 posted on 03/24/2005 9:44:29 AM PST by Emily RN
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To: Neville72
#1. If she were my wife I wouldn't have taken up with another woman and fathered two children out of wedlock.

I would not either, but I can't blame him for moving on.

#2. If she were my wife I wouldn't have withheld treatment and therapy from her for 15 years thus guarenteeing she had no chance to get any better.

That is not true. She has had years of therapy, it did not work.

#3. If she were my wife, I would welcome any and all medical opinions that might help her; not prevent any opinions that differed with the euthansia proponents who have treated her so far.

If she were my wife and she told me that she would never want to live like that, I would try to honor her wishes.

49 posted on 03/24/2005 9:45:00 AM PST by conserv13
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To: McGavin999

If there are as many fractures as I've seen listed here (healed without treatment) it could be grounds for a malpractice suit, or grounds to impeach Judge Greer for ignoring the evidence. Or, perhaps charges can still be brought against her husband, who certainly is behaving in a suspicious manner. I was appalled to learn that her so-called husband is 6' 7" and has medical training. The broken bones make sense now.

Her friends said they used to see unexplained bruises on her before her "accident". Her friends and family have both said that she talked of leaving him only days before the "accident".

This all makes me sick.


50 posted on 03/24/2005 9:46:12 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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