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Impeachment: Always an Option
Wallbuilders ^ | 2002 | David Barton

Posted on 03/24/2005 4:09:38 PM PST by ManHunter

The Founders' intent for impeachment was to protect the fundamental principle of “the consent of the governed.” The Constitution carries no title but “We the People,” and impeachment removes from office those officials who ignore that standard. (Recall that the Constitution does not guarantee a federal judge his position for life, but only for the duration of “good behavior.” Art. III, Sec. 1)

For this reason impeachment was used whenever judges disregarded public interests, affronted the will of the people, or introduced arbitrary power by seizing the role of policy-maker. Previous generations used this tool far more frequently than today's generation; and because the grounds for impeachment were deliberately kept broad, articles of impeachment have described everything from drunkenness and profanity to judicial high-handedness and bribery as reasons for removal from the bench. (Sixty-one federal judges or Supreme Court Justices have been investigated for impeachment, of whom thirteen have been impeached and seven convicted.)

Today's judiciary, not having experienced any serious threat of impeachment as judges in earlier generations, repeatedly flaunts its contempt for the will of the people. It recently has overturned direct elections in Washington, New York, California, Arkansas, Texas, Missouri, etc., simply because it preferred a different outcome. This is not to suggest that the results of all citizen elections are final and infallible, for it is the duty of the Court to protect the Constitution. However, the above elections violated at most the judiciary's ideological leanings rather than any manifest provision of the Constitution (e.g., English as a State's official language, ending government assistance for illegal immigrants, enacting term-limits, prohibiting physician-assisted suicides).

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Although written two years ago, this essay by David Barton gives what I believe to be a pretty good perspective on ways to reestablish the concept of separate but equal branches of government.

Unlike others here on FR, I don't see the Terri Schiavo case so much as a federal v. states rights issue, but rather a struggle between the executive and legislative branches and the judicial. I pray that some miracle will occur that will allow Terri Schiavo's condition to be fully evaluated and finally allow the people who love her to make an informed decision regarding her care. Whether that occurs or not, the time is long past for Congress to fully assert its will and establish itself as a branch of government coequal to the judiciary. What better charge to bring before the House than contempt of Congress and gross malfeasance in office contributing to the death of an innocent woman?

Will it happen, no. Would a debate and vote on the issue serve notice on the men and women in black? I think so - at least for a time.

1 posted on 03/24/2005 4:09:39 PM PST by ManHunter
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To: ManHunter
Seven Convicted

Seven convicted.
Seven in Two Hundred and Sixteen Years.

This is not something to undertake lightly.
This is not something you do because you are pissed at the verdict in one case, no matter how wrongheaded.

This is something traditionally reserved for Judges who are proven corrupt, who sold their decisions, or were already convicted of other felonies.

So9

2 posted on 03/24/2005 4:16:10 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: ManHunter

Congress should remove Greer. They have the right in the Constitution to do so, article 3 that Rush keeps referring to. Then with Greer out of the way, Pres. Bush makes an emergency appointment, which he can do by executive order. Appoint a Terri friendly judge to hear the case "In Nuovo" as per the law just passed on Sunday night. Meanwhile, the feeding tube goes back in, in the interim.


3 posted on 03/24/2005 4:17:18 PM PST by infidel29 ("It is only the warlike power of a civilized people that can give peace to the world."- T. Roosevelt)
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To: ManHunter

Wasn't that tried with Clinton? Big waste of time. Let's try something that works, not something that makes us feel good.


4 posted on 03/24/2005 4:19:52 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: Servant of the 9

"This is not something to undertake lightly.
This is not something you do because you are pissed at the verdict in one case, no matter how wrongheaded."


Words of wisdom...


5 posted on 03/24/2005 4:20:00 PM PST by Blzbba (Don't hate the player - hate the game!)
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To: infidel29
I agree but, sadly, I believe that it is already too late. What's important here is to not let the outrage fade.

It is important that Judge Greer be dealt with and removed from office. It is not only Greer. There are others as well.

6 posted on 03/24/2005 4:22:55 PM PST by davisfh
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To: davisfh
"I agree but, sadly, I believe that it is already too late."

I'm afraid I'll have to second your thoughts here. She's been a fighter all these years, but I think this may finally be too much. Although I'm still praying for her and an Easter miracle.

7 posted on 03/24/2005 4:25:48 PM PST by infidel29 ("It is only the warlike power of a civilized people that can give peace to the world."- T. Roosevelt)
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To: infidel29

I think the best argument they had with this case was the fact that Greer ordered she not be fed orally. That went beyond Terri's wishes even if she did say "no tubes". He ordered an illegal assisted suicide, not just pulling the plug.


8 posted on 03/24/2005 4:27:11 PM PST by 1Peter3v14
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To: popdonnelly
Wasn't that tried with Clinton? Big waste of time.

The 'waste of time' in the Clinton impeachment started with those in Congress and the Senate who ignored their sworn duty.

9 posted on 03/24/2005 4:29:06 PM PST by Michael.SF. (Does anyone remember Billy Dale? Did the Democrats ever care?)
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To: ManHunter

You know I don't think the constitution actually requires impeachment to remove judges, who are there "on their good behavior", I think impeachment applies only to elected officials.


10 posted on 03/24/2005 4:29:46 PM PST by rottweiller_inc
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To: 1Peter3v14

Greer's excuse that "she could choke to death" just made my head hurt.


11 posted on 03/24/2005 4:31:48 PM PST by infidel29 ("It is only the warlike power of a civilized people that can give peace to the world."- T. Roosevelt)
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To: ManHunter

It's not a matter of being "pissed at the outcome". It is a matter of state and federal judges thumbing their nose at a law that was passed in accordance with the Constitution, which specifically grants to Congress the authority to establish jurisdiction for the courts. In this case, congress directed a de novo review of the case; to wit, a complete review of all of the evidence - pro and con. Greer ignored a Congressional subpoena, and Whittemore ignored the specific intent of Congress, as did the 11th Circuit by merely affirming the decision of a state court judge.

I listened to Rick Santorum on Hannity's show this afternoon and, when questioned about the defiance of the law passed and signed last weekend, he indignantly stated, "Well, this is going to certainly lead to calls for hearings on the subject." I can see the judges shaking in their boots at the prospect of that. When was the last time a federal judge was even compelled to appear before Congress?

The vast majority of us - my self included - have whined about the run away power and arrogance of the judiciary. Is there another option for restoring some sanity to the court system?


12 posted on 03/24/2005 4:31:50 PM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired...)
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To: davisfh

The outrage will fade - and quickly. 3,000 people died on Sept. 11th and look at how governments at all levels tiptoe around the subject of Islamic terrorism. At some point, judges have to be held accountable for their actions and IMHO, that time has long since passed.


13 posted on 03/24/2005 4:35:17 PM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired...)
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To: Servant of the 9

Title: Judge Greer Should Be Impeached NOW!
Source: email
URL Source: http://none
Published: Mar 20, 2005
Author: John J McDougall
Post Date: 2005-03-20 19:30:28 by malador
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Imagine for a moment that you are a Circuit Court Judge. A terrified woman comes before your Court pleading for her life. She testifies, under oath, that her violent and demented husband raped her, set her clothes on fire and threatens to kill her. She needs your help and petitions your court for an Injunction for Protection. What would you do? Well, this is what a real Circuit Court Judge of the Sixth Judicial Circuit Court of Florida; by the name of Judge George W. Greer decided.

He actually had this exact case come before his bench seven years ago, when Helene Ball McGee, from Dunedin Florida pleaded with him to grant her an Injunction for Protection. Helene was in absolute fear for her life. Judge George W. Greer, however, refused to help her, because (according to him) she had not shown him enough proof that her husband was physically violent yet. Two weeks later her deranged husband, Bobby Lane McGee, stabbed her to death. Perhaps if Bobby Lane McGee, had raped Judge Greer first, he would have had a much better insight into the physically violent nature of her husband.

Now this same gender-biased Judge, with utter disdain for women, is the same Judge in charge of the Terri Schindler Schiavo Case. True to form, this Judge continues to ignore the Constitutional rights of Due Process for Terri Schindler Schiavo, in much the same way he did to Helene Ball McGee, who was violently murdered seven years ago this month. Terri who is physically disabled, has trouble swallowing food on her own and because of this Judge Greer has seen fit to order her feeding tube removed. Her Court appointed 'Guardian' husband who has since abandoned her for another woman, (with whom he has fathered two children) wants her dead and has asked Judge Greer's permission to use hundreds of thousands of dollars from her Medical Trust Fund Money to pay his blood-sucking lawyers to find a way to make this happen.

It worked. Judge George W. Greer has now ignored her parents plea for help and has ordered Terri's execution by starvation and dehydration to begin on March 18, 2005. This cruel, torturous, and horrifying death of yet another woman before his Court will take up to 10 days of horrific suffering to cause her to die. But Judge Greer is not without mercy, no sir; he will allow her parents permission to stay and watch their daughter starve to death.

What is wrong with this picture? Is this the same United States of America, whose US Supreme Court is inscribed with the words, 'Equal Justice under law.' While Terri starves and cries out for justice; our distinguished Supreme Court Justices will be too busy to hear, because they will be deciding how best to abolish those embarrassing 'Ten Commandments' of which, the Fifth Commandment is, 'Thou shall not kill.'

God help us. Every person of conscience in this Country should be ready to travel to the Sixth Judicial Circuit Court House, in Pinellas County Florida, and scream at the top of their lungs, that this is Murder! This is Murder! This is Murder!

John J McDougall, retired Florida Sheriff of Lee County Florida.

Hmmmmm since judge Greer later said she never complained that she was afraid of her husband and therefore he was correct, WHAT COURTROOM WAS HE IN????? Did he sleep through the whole trial? OR is he totally incompetent or is he someone we should fill the judiciary with???

Maybe we need a 3 strikes and you are out for judges, or may be, just maybe we should hold judges to a higher standard with active impeachment of judges who disregard the law. (Ever see the list of Florida Laws that he failed to follow in Schiavo case?? FRIGHTENING!)


14 posted on 03/24/2005 4:40:22 PM PST by DelaWhere
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To: infidel29

"Congress should remove Greer. They have the right in the Constitution to do so, article 3 that Rush keeps referring to." I agree, alot of these judges should be thrown out starting with Greer. Terri is being murdered by her husband and these activist judges are helping him. You and I agree infidel29, though anyone else out there who doesn't like what I just said bring it on. I've had a hard week watching this cruelty. The House and the Senate, President Bush and Governor Bush are doing an excellent job. Comunists and Nazis are influencing America and I'm ready for the fight so bring it on. God bless America. Give Terri her 8th and 14th amendment Rights.


15 posted on 03/24/2005 4:46:46 PM PST by JOE43270 (JOE43270 America voted and said we are One Nation Under God with Liberty and Justice for All.)
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To: Servant of the 9

Impeachment is something that needs to be undertaken early and often.


16 posted on 03/24/2005 4:50:49 PM PST by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Re-elect Rossi in 2005!)
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To: JOE43270
The republicans need to realize that they are in power now. Stop fearing retribution from the left and start to consider their own political mortality. To paraphrase Bill Cosby, "We brought you into our government and we can take you out just as fast and put in another one just like you."

Now may not be the only time conservatives and republicans hold a majority, but to squander their chances to make significant changes to the judiciary would be an huge mistake.

18 posted on 03/24/2005 4:55:23 PM PST by infidel29 ("It is only the warlike power of a civilized people that can give peace to the world."- T. Roosevelt)
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To: Servant of the 9

This is whatever the "Governed" say it is.


19 posted on 03/24/2005 4:55:32 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law
This is whatever the "Governed" say it is.

Mostly the "Governed" have too damned much sense to start ripping athe longest working democracy in history apart over one decision in one case.

SO9

20 posted on 03/24/2005 4:58:27 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: Made in USA

I do believe you though I don't like it. God Bless America and you and yours.


21 posted on 03/24/2005 5:05:33 PM PST by JOE43270 (JOE43270 America voted and said we are One Nation Under God with Liberty and Justice for All.)
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To: infidel29; JOE43270

Congress can't remove Greer as he is a state judge, not a federal one. It would be up to the Florida legislature to remove him.


22 posted on 03/24/2005 5:09:00 PM PST by COEXERJ145 (Believing in Internet Polls is Like Believing in the Tooth Fairy)
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To: COEXERJ145
That's right, I forgot that one. Insert Florida congress in place of the Feds, and Jeb in place of G.W., the rest of the proposition stays the same.

The feds could do the same to the 11th Circuit court that turned the Schindlers down.

23 posted on 03/24/2005 5:12:13 PM PST by infidel29 ("It is only the warlike power of a civilized people that can give peace to the world."- T. Roosevelt)
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To: Servant of the 9
This is not something you do because you are pissed at the verdict in one case, no matter how wrongheaded.

Why should overt corruption have to be present? If I don't do my job, or do it badly, I get fired regardless of whether I'm 'on the take' or not. Why should judges be immune from performance evaluations?

24 posted on 03/24/2005 5:12:22 PM PST by Sloth (I don't post a lot of the threads you read; I make a lot of the threads you read better.)
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To: infidel29

I agree though we can't act like Janet Reno and Billy bob clintoon, like they did in Waco Texas and with that Gonzales boy. That doesn't mean that myself and some others like me that wore a United States uniform of any of the services don't want to go and bring her out. We followed orders and that's about all that holds us back. Terri is a United States and she is being murdered.


25 posted on 03/24/2005 5:12:35 PM PST by JOE43270 (JOE43270 America voted and said we are One Nation Under God with Liberty and Justice for All.)
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To: ManHunter

I agree with you that the Schiavo case is more about judicial abuses of power and attempts by the executive and legislative branches to curb this tyranny. However, impeachment will not work here, there simply isn't enough time to impeach Greer, and even if they could, the state appellate courts would still retain jurisdiction. The best solution here is for Jeb Bush to exert is constitutional powers to defend a human life.


26 posted on 03/24/2005 5:13:42 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Servant of the 9

Perhaps if the "Governed" are so outraged by Terri Schiavo's case, they should petition the Florida legislature to change the law which Judge Greer has no choice but to follow.


27 posted on 03/24/2005 5:14:12 PM PST by SedVictaCatoni (<><)
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To: sinkspur

What do you think, could this qualify?


28 posted on 03/24/2005 5:15:18 PM PST by Howlin
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To: JOE43270

Thank you for your service, I have several friends in the various branches. I haven't heard from some of them in a while and I pray for their well being always.


29 posted on 03/24/2005 5:17:40 PM PST by infidel29 ("It is only the warlike power of a civilized people that can give peace to the world."- T. Roosevelt)
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To: ManHunter

Yea, what you said....


30 posted on 03/24/2005 5:18:52 PM PST by artifax
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To: DelaWhere
Isn't the Honorable Judge Greer a Florida State judge? I don't think that US Constitutional impeachment applies to him. However the people of Florida could probably vote him out of office. Like CA did to Rose Bird.

I could be wrong, I have been wrong before.

Bonehead

31 posted on 03/24/2005 5:19:40 PM PST by BoneHead
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To: COEXERJ145

Yes, you are exactly right though these judges state or federal are getting out of line. This comes down from the supreme court down to the lowliest of them all. They are using everything to do their judging except the United States Constitution and all it Amendents.


32 posted on 03/24/2005 5:20:10 PM PST by JOE43270 (JOE43270 America voted and said we are One Nation Under God with Liberty and Justice for All.)
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To: ManHunter

Judge Greer has overstepped his power like almost every judge.
He could be impeached for that or no reason at all.

Governor Bush could rescue Terri and be impeached as well.

BUT THERE ARE NOT THE VOTES TO IMPEACH EITHER OF THEM.

So why not go for it?


33 posted on 03/24/2005 5:20:51 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: ManHunter

Impeachment - it's not just for the judiciary.

Thanks for the linkage, Man.


34 posted on 03/24/2005 5:24:09 PM PST by lodwick (Integrity has no need of rules. Albert Camus)
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To: Servant of the 9
Archon,

Answer one thing for me. If one cedes to you that the judiciary followed the law as they see it, does it matter to you how this woman dies? That is to say, it is ok with you that we are dehydrating her unto death? You good with that?

35 posted on 03/24/2005 5:25:38 PM PST by Texas Songwriter (.)
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To: infidel29
" Stop fearing retribution from the left and start to consider their own political mortality."

I don't think they fear so much as they mostly agree with the left. You can see it through some here. Supporting this state imposed death sentence. Ignoring our most fundamental right and the Constitution. The supreme law of the land.

36 posted on 03/24/2005 5:29:31 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: Sloth; Howlin
Why should judges be immune from performance evaluations?

Florida Circuit judges ARE subject to performance evaluations. They have to run for election, every four years.

Greer was re-elected overwhelmingly, in 2004.

37 posted on 03/24/2005 5:32:14 PM PST by sinkspur ("Preach the gospel. If necessary, use words.")
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To: sinkspur

70 percent.


38 posted on 03/24/2005 5:34:09 PM PST by Howlin
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To: ManHunter
"a federal v. states rights issue, but rather a struggle between the executive and legislative branches and the judicial."

It's those issues and many political ones. I think the politics are going to have to work through on this however.

I'd like to see a judge impeached for his rulings, just because it hasn't been done doesn't mean it can't or shouldn't be done. In fact I think it would be good for the country and the Constitution (it would reinstall some of the discipline on the courts that was removed by the 17th Amendment).

39 posted on 03/24/2005 5:43:36 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

As has been stated above, the US Congress cannot impeach Greer, who is an elected State Superior Court Judge. Congress can, however, declare him in contempt of Congress and compel him to appear before a joint hearing to explain why he completely disregarded Congress's intent when it subpoenaed Terri Schiavo.

Judge Whittemore, however, is a different story. Whittemore is a Federal judge, who can be impeached by Congress. The limitations on impeachment and the reasons therefore are virtually non-existent; "bad behavior" can be interpreted in many different ways. I don't think there is sufficient support in the House to impeach Whittemore, but I do believe that the debate over the bill of impeachment would get his attention and that of a number of Federal judges.


40 posted on 03/24/2005 5:53:05 PM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired...)
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To: SedVictaCatoni
Perhaps if the "Governed" are so outraged by Terri Schiavo's case, they should petition the Florida legislature to change the law which Judge Greer has no choice but to follow.

That makes sense.
It is time to rewrite the laws to prevent this chaos in the future, not time to tear down the system.

SO9

41 posted on 03/24/2005 6:22:28 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: Texas Songwriter
Answer one thing for me. If one cedes to you that the judiciary followed the law as they see it, does it matter to you how this woman dies? That is to say, it is ok with you that we are dehydrating her unto death? You good with that?

No.
Anyone who has made the choice not to live, and that is what the court found she had done, true or not, deserves a jolt of morphine big enough to kill them instantly and painllessly.
Tell me how to get that legalized and I will be a happy man.
I don't look forward to dieing like that, but living as she is would be worse.

42 posted on 03/24/2005 6:28:07 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: Servant of the 9
It is time to rewrite the laws to prevent this chaos in the future, not time to tear down the system.

Your faith that the judiciary will respect the law is touching, but misplaced.

43 posted on 03/24/2005 6:39:09 PM PST by Logophile
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To: Servant of the 9

Based upon the heresay of 1 person who is conflicted by having taken up with another woman and been paid 1 million dollars for rehab of Terri and spent none. To deny these mitigating circumstances is to state the obvious of the pretext which is the intent to kill another person. Many affidavits of direct observers are on record, medical experts, and Greer capriciously dismissed these sworn statements. It at least demands what Congress demanded, a denovo examination of the facts..all of the facts.


44 posted on 03/24/2005 7:16:33 PM PST by Texas Songwriter (.)
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To: ManHunter

David Barton is a hero of the faith. I'd lie down in traffic for the man. Thanks for the post.


45 posted on 03/24/2005 7:18:09 PM PST by Zack Nguyen (parties.)
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To: Logophile
Your faith that the judiciary will respect the law is touching, but misplaced.

Well, we have excellent evidence - in this case, Judge Greer is following the law of Florida, despite hectoring, death threats, federal pressure, and public jeering. It appears that he respects the law and opposes judicial activism.

46 posted on 03/24/2005 7:52:19 PM PST by SedVictaCatoni (<><)
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To: COEXERJ145

Congress can't remove Greer as he is a state judge, not a federal one. It would be up to the Florida legislature to remove him.

Florida..............get-er-done!


47 posted on 03/24/2005 8:19:01 PM PST by Ethyl (T)
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To: sinkspur

Why should judges be immune from performance evaluations?
Florida Circuit judges ARE subject to performance evaluations. They have to run for election, every four years.

Greer was re-elected overwhelmingly, in 2004.


Well, you know what to do next time he is up for election. Get-er-done


48 posted on 03/24/2005 8:29:12 PM PST by Ethyl (T)
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To: Texas Songwriter
Based upon the heresay of 1 person who is conflicted

Three others testified at the hearing that Terri had also told them she did not wish to live if in this condition.
The idea that it was an unsubstantiated statement by her husband is a lie started by the Right-To-Life whackos.

Her father on the other hand testified that he would cut her arms and legs off and put her on a respirator if it would keep her alive.
He further testified he would put in a feeding tube even if she had left a Living Will prohibiting it.
He is unfit to have custody of a Chia Pet, much less his daughter.
They don't give a shit about Terry, only their own feelings.

So9

49 posted on 03/24/2005 8:35:26 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: SedVictaCatoni
Well, we have excellent evidence - in this case, Judge Greer is following the law of Florida, despite hectoring, death threats, federal pressure, and public jeering. It appears that he respects the law and opposes judicial activism.

Even if I were to accept your characterization of Judge Greer's behavior in this case, you are missing the larger point. So9 proposed rewriting laws to avoid "chaos in the future." However, we have little reason to suppose that judges will respect new laws any more than they did the old ones. It is too tempting to legislate from the bench according to one's perceptions of "penumbras and emanations."

50 posted on 03/24/2005 8:58:28 PM PST by Logophile
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