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Terri Schiavo, Requiescat in Pacem
Special to FreeRepublic ^ | 26 March 2005 | John Armor (Congressman Billybob)

Posted on 03/24/2005 5:26:02 PM PST by Congressman Billybob

By the time you read this, Teresa Schiavo may be dead of starvation as required by Florida Judge George Greer. Thousands of people have produced millions of words on this subject. I should write nothing, unless I have more to offer than the MSM (mainstream media). I do.

Personal experience colors what I say. On 1 January 1994, my mother was taken to Mission Memorial Hospital in Asheville with serious injuries from an auto accident. She’d suffered both a heart attack and a stroke after the accident. She was in a coma, but still alive.

Seven years before, her life was saved in that same excellent hospital, by emergency surgery to repair an aorta aneurism. She spent a week in intensive care, and told both her sons that she did not want to be “hooked up to tubes again.” In 1994, my brother was in a different hospital after the accident; decisions on my mother’s care rested on me alone.

Four different medical specialists were called in. I took their advice. I talked to all the grandchildren. Ultimately I made not just one decision, but a series of them, leading directly to my mother’s death, four days later.

I have not yet steeled myself to write the complete history of those four days. Someday I should, because advances in medical care mean that many more Americans will face similar decisions about family members. I understand what Terri Schiavo’s family are going through except the extraordinary time those burdens have been on their shoulders and their hearts.

That said, what can I offer on this subject? For the best medical discussion, I recommend Charles Krauthammer’s excellent column this week. On the legal side, events now are a direct consequence of a legal failure seven years ago, and the arrogance of judges who cannot admit error and merely dispense with the case, rather than take the tougher path and decide it.

The attorneys for Terri’s family should have filed for her divorce from Michael Schiavo seven years ago. He was clearly guilty of adultery. She was clearly blameless. I’m unaware of any divorce action brought by a “next friend” for a woman who cannot speak. But I am aware of divorces the other way – husbands and wives who obtained divorces from spouses who were profoundly disabled, or in prison, or who had disappeared. Turnabout is fair play.

Had Michael been removed as the husband, he would not have been named, or continued, as her guardian. Therefore, what is happening now would not have occurred.

Then there are Michael’s reasons for bias. He had three personal reasons at home (a “wife” and two children). He had hundreds of thousands of reasons in the bank (a million-dollar malpractice settlement). But Judge Greer also had reasons for bias.

In Florida, judges are subject to retention elections. In his last election, Judge Greer received substantial contributions from at least five lawyers who have represented Michael over the years. This is a matter of public records in Florida. None of the MSM have bothered to research and report on this.

Speaking of bias, ABC had its own mini-Rathergate this week. ABC touted a “memo circulated among Republican Senators” which sought to make political hay from Terri Schiavo. The memo is a fraud. It contains references any Senator or staffer would have known not to use concerning legislative business. It also lacks the standard cover sheet and initials of sender for all intraSenate memos. This fraud story was broken by www.Powerline.com; they have the details.

Like CBS, ABC rushed to broadcast with a forged document because it didn’t ask competent experts whether it was false. ABC was in a rush (dare we say biased?) to attack the Republicans. The bias has continued in an ABC poll that misstates the facts of the Schiavo case to produce false results. A day after this memo was exposed as a fraud, Lanny Davis cited it as true on Fox News. Given Davis’s history, that was predictable.

Lastly, on the Internet I’ve seen a brain scan of Terri Schiavo She has a larger gap of fluid than in a normal brain. But I’ve also seen the scan of a woman with a similar void – who was given up for brain dead – who recovered, and who corresponded with me and others and released her medical records, to present an alternative to the assumptions of “experts.”

What we have here is a gross failure of common sense and decency in state and federal courts. Terri Schiavo should be in the physical custody of her parents, who love her, not in the hands of her “husband,” who wants her dead. Her soul now and forever is in the hands of God.

About the Author: John Armor is a First Amendment attorney and author who lives in the Blue Ridge Mountains of North Carolina. John_Armor@aya.yale.edu


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: abcfraud; charleskrauthammer; coma; divorce; judgegreer; medicaldeath; powerline; schiavo; teresaschiavo; terri; terrischiavo
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51 posted on 03/24/2005 6:15:41 PM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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To: T'wit

"It is her family who need comfort and her tormentors who need one's prayers..."

Definitely. Bobby Schindler was on tv this morning (I think was FNC sometime after 9am) saying that people should pray for Terri, but to also pray for Michael Schiavo because he's so lost his way. It was as pure an intention as I've ever heard. May God bless Terri's family who need His comfort.


52 posted on 03/24/2005 6:20:16 PM PST by Fudd Fan (MaryJo Kopechne needed an "exit strategy")
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To: Congressman Billybob

I know how much you Terri supporters hate to hear the truth, but here it is. From the Marc 24th Chicago Tribune. Please note that the alleged "murderer" husband lived with the Schindlers, along with Terri, for 3 years following Terri's collapse. Guess he wasn't a murderer in their eyes until later, when they had their falling out. And note that the SCHINDLERS urged Michael Schiavo to date. THEY urged him to date. Just a little fact or two to throw in amongst all the lies you folks spew.

"When Terri first collapsed, relations between Schindlers and their son-in-law were amicable. The Schiavos moved in with her parents, and they helped him care for their oldest daughter. Eventually, they encouraged him to date. Michael Schiavo even introduced a couple of women to Terri's parents.

He dressed his wife in fancy clothes, applied her makeup, and even took her to California for experimental surgery to implant electrodes in hopes that would stimulate her brain. Michael Schiavo and Mary Schindler belied the tired cliché about mothers-in-law; the two were very close."


53 posted on 03/24/2005 6:27:31 PM PST by flaglady47 (O)
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To: Antoninus

Gov. Bush has a get out of jail free card. W would pardon him.


54 posted on 03/24/2005 6:28:58 PM PST by Mike Darancette (MESOCONS FOR RICE '08)
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To: flaglady47

And all that time, he kept from them, his knowledge that she did not want to live that way; he kept that denial of her wish, for nearly 8 years.


55 posted on 03/24/2005 6:32:31 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: drt1
Good try at eloquence - but, what has become obvious is that the system broke down on this case. This case which, is at a factual basis is not unique.

But now, it laid out for all to see.

Speaking for myself, I am glad I married a Catholic woman. She will do right by me when time comes for that,

56 posted on 03/24/2005 6:33:48 PM PST by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: flaglady47

"Just a little fact or two to throw in amongst all the lies you folks spew."

So people who disagree with you "spew" lies? How respectful of you. I'm impressed.

Obviously in the early days after Terri's collapse there was not yet bad blood between the in-laws. We each have our own theories and interpretations of facts. I disagree with you on major points. So what? I'd not resort to venom at you.


57 posted on 03/24/2005 6:35:43 PM PST by Fudd Fan (MaryJo Kopechne needed an "exit strategy")
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To: Congressman Billybob
In his last election, Judge Greer received substantial contributions from at least five lawyers who have represented Michael over the years. This is a matter of public records in Florida. None of the MSM have bothered to research and report on this.

Lord Almighty! This is insane! Why have I never heard of this before? Do you have a link or something here? Sean Hannity and Rush should know about this!

58 posted on 03/24/2005 6:36:53 PM PST by Zack Nguyen (parties.)
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To: 76834

*I have emailed, written and made phone call to everyone I can think of about the Terri travesty. *

Me too.


59 posted on 03/24/2005 6:41:41 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic (" I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just. " A. Lincoln)
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To: Zack Nguyen

I heard on Fox that MS has denied a priest entry into Terri's room to administer the Last Rites because he regards a communion wafer as food.


60 posted on 03/24/2005 6:42:11 PM PST by Army Air Corps (I am sick of brownshirts in black robes)
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To: Antoninus

Don't apologize, I have been saying the same thing about all the GOP with far less restraint.


61 posted on 03/24/2005 6:43:31 PM PST by Mark in the Old South (Sister Lucia of Fatima pray for us)
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To: Army Air Corps
You heard right. There were all sorts of negotiations about the wafer with MS's attorneys suggesting the Priest touch Terri Sciavo's lips with the wafer and then consume it himself! What a ghoulish, insensitive travesty this has become.
62 posted on 03/24/2005 6:45:44 PM PST by drt1
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To: drt1

Denial of the fullness of Last Rites to a Catholic is egregious.


63 posted on 03/24/2005 6:48:34 PM PST by Army Air Corps (I am sick of brownshirts in black robes)
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To: Army Air Corps
I heard on Fox that MS has denied a priest entry into Terri's room to administer the Last Rites because he regards a communion wafer as food.

That is...I just don't have the words to say it.

64 posted on 03/24/2005 6:50:01 PM PST by Zack Nguyen (parties.)
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To: Army Air Corps; drt1

Not only is her right to life being violated, but her 1st amendment right to religious practice is as well.


65 posted on 03/24/2005 6:50:56 PM PST by Zack Nguyen (parties.)
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To: LadyDoc

I fear for my autistic grandson should anything ever happen to his parents and I am no longer here to care for him.


66 posted on 03/24/2005 6:51:03 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic (" I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just. " A. Lincoln)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Yeah. But this whole affair makes me feel like chuck heston at the end of 'planet of the apes.'

All I want to do is scream 'God **** them all to ****'


67 posted on 03/24/2005 6:55:08 PM PST by Mr. Thorne ("But iron, cold iron, shall be master of them all..." Kipling)
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To: Zack Nguyen

Words fail me as well. I have used more expletives in the past few days than I have in years. It is an attempt at catharsis on my part.


68 posted on 03/24/2005 7:08:16 PM PST by Army Air Corps (I am sick of brownshirts in black robes)
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To: Critter

I'll make a resolution too. If Terri starves to death then I'll cease to be an active Republican and become an active member of the Constitution Party.


69 posted on 03/24/2005 7:08:26 PM PST by The Duke
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To: Zack Nguyen

Are you Vietnamese? I only ask because your FR name is Zack Nguyen. If so, chào anh.


70 posted on 03/24/2005 7:09:51 PM PST by Army Air Corps (I am sick of brownshirts in black robes)
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To: planekT

We must not give up, in believing, hoping for, praying for a miracle. One of Terri's friends said that when discussing Karen Quinlan, Terri said "Where there's life there is hope". Terri is still with us, let's not give up hope.


71 posted on 03/24/2005 7:16:00 PM PST by MomwithHope
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To: Congressman Billybob
Thanks, John, for your thoughtful and insightful post.

What we have here is a gross failure of common sense and decency in state and federal courts.

That is true, but there is more. What we also have here is the naked face of evil, which understands fully that we are in its power, even if only momentarily, and which is determined that while it has us in its grasp it is going to inflict as much misery, pain, terror and death as it can.

72 posted on 03/24/2005 7:18:04 PM PST by tarheelswamprat (Negotiations are the heroin of Westerners addicted to self-delusion.)
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To: First_Salute

"And all that time, he kept from them, his knowledge that she did not want to live that way; he kept that denial of her wish, for nearly 8 years."

Did the possibility ever dawn on you that in those first years they were busy trying to save Terri, flying her out to California for rehabilitation, and the topic never came up? Why would it. At that time they thought they still had some hope for Terri's rehabilitation. As the years passed, it became much more obvious that that wasn't going to happen. When Michael got to the point where he was convinced by doctors that nothing was ever going to improve for Terri, and after he and the parents had their falling out and had competing ideas about what to do about Terri, that's when the subject had to be discussed seriously. The parents wanted one thing; Michael knew what his wife had said in casual conversation (heard also by 2 others besides himself) and he wanted to honor Terri's wishes which were different than the parents. Under FL law, the spouse makes the decision, and Michael did. You don't give up hope on a loved one right away. It's as time passes that you become more and more reconciled that there will be no improvement, ever. So, use some logic here about how things really play out in life, rather than the story you'd prefer to concoct in order to slam Michael. By the way, all this stuff is in the court transcripts. Go read up.


73 posted on 03/24/2005 7:18:16 PM PST by flaglady47 (O)
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To: don-o; drt1
Good try at eloquence - but, what has become obvious is that the system broke down on this case.

The system did not break down; it has been deliberately and systematically subverted.

74 posted on 03/24/2005 7:35:05 PM PST by tarheelswamprat (Negotiations are the heroin of Westerners addicted to self-delusion.)
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To: flaglady47
Her wish was to not "live that way."

He denied her wish, and he did so, for nearly 8 years.

During all of which time, he failed to reveal in probate, her wish, and then petition in probate, for opportunity to see if things improve.

Changes to wishes and wills of incapacitated people, are made in probate; especially life and death cases.

75 posted on 03/24/2005 7:43:10 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: flaglady47

Quite true, you shameful COSsack, the Schindlers foolishly did encourage Michael to date, which of course would backfire when he succumbed to his gonads and begot two bastards with a wife still inconveniently living. They certainly share the blame for sowing seeds of evil. But again, Michael wasn't hostile at the time to letting Terri live.


76 posted on 03/24/2005 7:53:19 PM PST by The Red Zone (Florida: the sun-shame state.)
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To: flaglady47
Why would it.

"Just in case" would be why.

Quite clearly the fact that they resorted to experimental treatment shows that they had little hope in conventional medicine at the time; any sane person would be thinking about the "just in case" scenario.

77 posted on 03/24/2005 7:56:27 PM PST by The Red Zone (Florida: the sun-shame state.)
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To: The Red Zone

"when he succumbed to his gonads and begot two bastards with a wife still inconveniently living"

You know you're a really viscious doozy. You didn't happen to be by the U.S. District Courthouse this evening, were you?


78 posted on 03/24/2005 8:21:46 PM PST by flaglady47 (O)
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To: Zack Nguyen

 

GREER DONOR

AMOUNT

POSITION

ACTION

Lawyers For
Michael Schiavo

Hamden Baskin III   

Felos & Felos           

Deborah Bushnell    

Gyneth S. Stanley   

Steven Nilsson        

Beth Wilson             

 

$500  & $500
$250
$250
$150 and $250
$250 and $250
$250 and $100

Michael Schiavo’s Lawyer[s]

Greer
denies many or all of Schindler’s in favor of Felos
Greer Allows hearsay as evidence/disallows Schindler’s statements

Felos former chairman of board
of directors of Hospice of Florida Suncoast

 

 

Daniel Grieco                

 

$300

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Incident when injuries occurred to Terri,Reappeared as attorney for selected pleadings

State/County
Employees/Elected

Frank Nagatani

$50 and $50

 

DCF Attorney

Squashed
testimony for DCF Investigator to appear on behalf of abuse allegations

 

Bernie McCabe

In-Kind

State Attorney

Allowed underling to appear in campaign ad for Greer
Will not call Grand Jury

 

Everett Rice

$500 & In-Kind

Sheriff/State Rep

Didn’t conduct criminal investigation into what really happened to Terri or allegations of abuse after initial incident
Allowed Deputy & use of county property to appear in campaign ad for Greer

 

John Carassas

$100

 

Deputy Attorney General

Florida Deputy Attorney General, involvement with
Rice in Sept. 2003 motion for Greer recusal dueTo improper discussion of case
 

 

James Hellickson        

 

$150 & In Kind

Assistant state attorney in office of Bernie McCabe, Pinellas/Pasco State Attorney


Appeared in Greer Campaign Ad

 

 

Paula Shea

In Kind

Assistant Pinellas Public Defender

Appeared in Greer Campaign Ad 

 

Andrew
Sasso            

 

$100

Officer in Guardianship monitoring program and

Guardian ad litem pool

Was supposed to:
“evaluate information about the well-being and property of all persons adjudicated of having a legal incapacity so that the court can fulfill its legal obligation to protect and preserve the interests of the ward,”
FL COURTS

Misc. People w connections

Richard La Belle           

 

$100

Member of Board of Directors of
Advocacy Center
for Persons with Disabilities

Supposedly ACPD
doing investigation into Schiavo case
 

 

Battaglia, Ross, Disus and Wein     

 

$250

Principal Kelli Crabb is past chairperson of Hospice Foundation of Florida Suncoast and member of Board of directors
 

 

 

Gus Bilirakis       

 

$40 cash

Former Hospice Board member and of American Hellonic Education Progressive Assoc. (AHEPA)
 

Felos past Governor

 

Divito and Higham           

 

$250 and $250

Law firm employed by St. Petersburg/Venice
Dioceses

Terri’s Dioceses

 

 

 

 


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79 posted on 03/24/2005 8:24:24 PM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Congressman Billybob

BUMP


80 posted on 03/24/2005 8:27:48 PM PST by Siobhan (No such thing as Democrats -- just DEATHOCRATS.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Thanks John!


81 posted on 03/24/2005 8:40:05 PM PST by tomahawk
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To: Congressman Billybob

BUMP! for Life! Thanks, Billybob!


82 posted on 03/24/2005 9:16:05 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Congressman Billybob

BTTT


83 posted on 03/24/2005 9:18:20 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: YOUGOTIT
Now it would seem that all our work was for nothing as the people we worked so hard for are acting like Democrats.

I know exactly how you feel and my suggestion may not help, but if you want to hear the Dims wail and gnash their teeth about "those merciless Repuglican bastards," listen to an hour of Err Amrica.

Did you know that Democrats are gutless pukes and lapdogs against the might of the all-conquering Republican Party? That we break the law and use our fearsome army of jack-booted Christian Soldiers to crush peaceful demonstrations? That we break budgets and shovel mountains of money to corporate fat cats and polluters?

Yes, YOU TOO can feel the power when you hear Jeanine Garafalo and Al Franken whine and moan on Err America!

84 posted on 03/24/2005 9:25:33 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: flaglady47

I just told you the truth. If you don't like it, then like you tell everybody else, TOUGH ON YOU.


85 posted on 03/24/2005 9:31:02 PM PST by The Red Zone (Florida: the sun-shame state.)
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To: Berosus; blam; dervish; Do not dub me shapka broham; Ernest_at_the_Beach; FairOpinion; ...
another spot-on op-ed by CmBb. I wanted to ping you specifically for these paragraphs.
In Florida, judges are subject to retention elections. In his last election, Judge Greer received substantial contributions from at least five lawyers who have represented Michael over the years. This is a matter of public records in Florida. None of the MSM have bothered to research and report on this.

Speaking of bias, ABC had its own mini-Rathergate this week. ABC touted a “memo circulated among Republican Senators” which sought to make political hay from Terri Schiavo. The memo is a fraud. It contains references any Senator or staffer would have known not to use concerning legislative business. It also lacks the standard cover sheet and initials of sender for all intraSenate memos. This fraud story was broken by www.Powerline.com; they have the details.

86 posted on 03/24/2005 10:44:52 PM PST by SunkenCiv (last updated my FreeRepublic profile on Sunday, March 13, 2005.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks for pinging me to this.

There is just so much information that is covered up, that it's mindboggling.


87 posted on 03/24/2005 10:48:37 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Diogenesis
Thank you for posting your "donors to Judge Greer" list. I saw it once, remembered what I could, and referenced it in my column. I lacked the FR search skills to find it and quote it. You did excellent work, and you know your stuff.

Cordially,

John / Billybob
88 posted on 03/24/2005 11:15:01 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (Proud to be a FORMER member of the Bar of the US Supreme Court since July, 2004.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
I fear for my autistic grandson should anything ever happen to his parents and I am no longer here to care for him.

A friend of mine has a son with smooth brain syndrome. He is very severely disabled. Recently, they have been having trouble getting enough nutrition in him to maintain a healthy weight. He can swallow, but not chew.

She told me today that the Dr.'s are contemplating a feeding tube for him. She said it is not unusual for a person to gradually lose the ability to swallow after having a feeding tube placed.

A shiver went down my spine. They didn't know he had problems until he was 6 weeks old. As far as she is concerned, he was here, he was hers, and there was no choice to be made. She is loving and devoted and fierce in making sure this child gets the care he needs. As a society, we would condemn her for anything less than that.

But 10 years from now, will some number cruncher, some Dr., or society, determine that this child is worthless, too costly, or in need of being "allowed to die naturally"?

WE demand that she invest her whole heart in that child. To turn around, years later, and demand she starve him would be unbelievable cruelty. I have no doubt, after today, that it will eventually happen.

89 posted on 03/24/2005 11:20:35 PM PST by Dianna
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To: Congressman Billybob; Constitution Day; Alia; 100%FEDUP; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; ~Vor~; ...
The latest column from NC's own Congressman Billybob!

NC *Ping*

Please FRmail Constitution Day OR TaxRelief if you want to be added to or removed from this North Carolina ping list.
91 posted on 03/25/2005 5:40:04 AM PST by TaxRelief (March for Justice, April 7, Washington DC)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Thank you for this article. It's OBVIOUS there are no scales on YOUR eyes.


92 posted on 03/25/2005 5:51:21 AM PST by mommadooo3
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To: flaglady47
>> He dressed his wife in fancy clothes, applied her makeup

So Carla Iyer reported also. Thank you for independently confirming the credibility of her testimony. Now you also can learn and accept the truth of her observations about Michael.

93 posted on 03/25/2005 6:06:49 AM PST by T'wit (Liberals had better stop preaching about quality of life and start worrying about quality of death)
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To: Blurblogger
Killing off "useless eaters" is the perfect logic of socialism and of the modernist view in general. It is also the Law of the Jungle. It will be the end of civilization.

I appreciate your point but there's something about Greer that goes down to bedrock somehow. He is fighting like a little banty rooster. His rulings are so transparently prejudiced, he knows and you know he's taking fairly desperate career chances. Yet he keeps getting more frenetic and bizarre. This does not compute for me that he's doing it to protect some cushy deal with the hospices. I sense something bigger and a lot meaner. He seems to have his heart in it too, in some odd way, otherwise I'd suspect blackmail.

A mystery -- and a very interesting one!

94 posted on 03/25/2005 6:45:31 AM PST by T'wit (Liberals had better stop preaching about quality of life and start worrying about quality of death)
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To: Diogenesis

Whew! That is potent information! Thanks.


95 posted on 03/25/2005 6:50:25 AM PST by T'wit (Liberals had better stop preaching about quality of life and start worrying about quality of death)
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To: T'wit
I appreciate your point but there's something about Greer that goes down to bedrock somehow. He is fighting like a little banty rooster. His rulings are so transparently prejudiced, he knows and you know he's taking fairly desperate career chances. Yet he keeps getting more frenetic and bizarre. This does not compute for me that he's doing it to protect some cushy deal with the hospices. I sense something bigger and a lot meaner. He seems to have his heart in it too, in some odd way, otherwise I'd suspect blackmail.

Armor says in this column that Greer took money from Michael Schiavo's lawyers! But I guess that's legal since the appellate courts found no conflict of interest on Greer's part? Or did they not look at that possibility???????

96 posted on 03/25/2005 6:50:35 AM PST by eeriegeno
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To: eeriegeno
Since when are lawyers going to agree that it's "illegal" to give each other bribes contributions?

My instinct remains that this is something more than a few dollars -- or even a lot of dollars. Something much more sinister.

97 posted on 03/25/2005 7:01:29 AM PST by T'wit (Liberals had better stop preaching about quality of life and start worrying about quality of death)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Thank you.


98 posted on 03/25/2005 7:16:59 AM PST by kayak (Have you prayed for your President today?)
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To: Antoninus

No, you are not sorry...you are delighted in an opportunity to bash a Bush.


99 posted on 03/25/2005 7:18:49 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Pass Tort Reform Now! Make the bottom clean for the catfish!)
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To: Congressman Billybob
US Justice


100 posted on 03/25/2005 7:32:10 AM PST by stocksthatgoup (Polls = Proof that when the MSM want your opinion they will give it to you.)
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