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Terri Schiavo, Requiescat in Pacem
Special to FreeRepublic ^ | 26 March 2005 | John Armor (Congressman Billybob)

Posted on 03/24/2005 5:26:02 PM PST by Congressman Billybob

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To: Congressman Billybob
In Florida, judges are subject to retention elections. In his last election, Judge Greer received substantial contributions from at least five lawyers who have represented Michael over the years. This is a matter of public records in Florida. None of the MSM have bothered to research and report on this.

This seems to be a conflict of interest that should have caused Greer to recuse himself from the Schiavo case??? And it seems that it would make, if it can be proven, all of Greer's decisions regarding this case, null and void.

Regarding the MSM investigative reporting - I agree, it is almost non-existent. But, the MSM is not in charge of policing the errs of our system; they are reporters not cops. But there is an Attorney General in Florida?????

41 posted on 03/24/2005 6:06:01 PM PST by eeriegeno
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To: Congressman Billybob
John,

Knowing that she "wouldn't want to live that way," then it seems that Michael Schiavo had ample opportunity to act upon Terri's wish, at any time during 1990, but he did not. He let her live in suspended animation for almost 8 years before acting upon her wish.

In a "living will," should you set time frames for taking action? Are their time frames for such instances, where there is no "living will" but a family remember has Michael Schiavo's memory?

Thanks.

42 posted on 03/24/2005 6:06:25 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Constitution Day; TaxRelief; mhking

My friends, please ping this out if you deem it fit.

John


43 posted on 03/24/2005 6:08:13 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (Proud to be a FORMER member of the Bar of the US Supreme Court since July, 2004.)
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To: T'wit; Congressman Billybob
You are correct, it is NOT all about money. Many do not understand the BATTLE BEHIND the BATTLE....

...There is an agenda with Greer etc. -- it's the case law "precedents" the would-be killers are trying to set for a larger euthanasia agenda. And THAT agenda is yet in the bigger anti-God, anti-sanctity-of-life agenda of totalitarians. Remove God, remove sanctity of life, consider people and their "God-Given rights" as property of the State and you have....1984. That's what's REALLY going on here.

This is part of the Godless machinery to devalue life and make this NO LONGER a government OF, BY and FOR the PEOPLE. This is 'Brave New World' and '1984' totalitarian stuff, inhumane monsters hiding behind "law" playing God.

And from all the research Calpernia and others have posted, Greer probably thinks he IS God. The 'legally blind' issue is MOOT--Helen Keller was TOTALLY blind, deaf and mute--yet compassionate and humanitarian. Greer is sick and wicked and a tool being evilly used...KNOWINGLY.

If we re-frame the debate into a perspective of Culture of (Sanctity of) Life vs. Culture of Death, it would seem that FIRST we would seek to give nourishment to someone like this. It would seem that before we would 'pull the plug' we would also give access to OBJECTIVE PEOPLE who have no vested interest in Terri's life or death. It would seem--consider the amount of money invested to save seagulls and sea lions contaminated by tanker oil spills--we would make effort to rehabilitate somebody who has the fight, the spirit, the will to live.

Absolutely it is foolish--and costs increase geometrically--to try to continue human life to the 'cryogenic-and-hope-to-thaw' extreme. There are some who have been kept on life support whose brain (I am recalling from memory, not citing cases) had practically liquefied. This isn't compassion--this is denial. HOwever, I do NOT believe Terri is in this predicament. I believe there is a conspiracy among Greer, the HINO etc. to snuff this woman.

Let us all pray to God for wisdom and pray for ALL our leaders, elected and appointed, through somehow, God will work out His will. God is still sovereign; this is STILL One Nation, Under God.

Thanks for the heartfelt post, John. May God have mercy on Terri and us all.
44 posted on 03/24/2005 6:09:04 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (ATTN. MARXIST RED MSM: I RESENT your "RED STATE" switcheroo using our ELECTORAL MAP as PROPAGANDA!)
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To: T'wit
Greer's connection to the hospice bothers me. I've read different things where he was on the board of directors for the parent company or his wife was. And Michael's lawyer is really into this "right-to-die" stuff. And the Medicaid/Medicare investigation into the hospice corp. - just a lot of strange connections. Definitely not a normal "probate" matter.
45 posted on 03/24/2005 6:09:08 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: par4

They are pariahs right now.

Every quarter of the Judiciary was petitioned on her behalf, every quarter denied her life, with the exception of the gentleman judge in the 11th circuit.

The speedy, sequential and cascading image of the stamp of death, death, death will not be forgotten.

It's part of the soul of the Country now due to the emotion involved. Nascent now, subdued in a short while, but it is an indelible mark.


46 posted on 03/24/2005 6:09:56 PM PST by AlbionGirl
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To: pickemuphere

You deathsquadders aren't going to convince many of us that this woman's rights aren't being violated, or that starving the helpless is allright. The govt. is derelect in their duty to protect this woman from the likes of you.


47 posted on 03/24/2005 6:10:35 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: Congressman Billybob

Excellent essay!


48 posted on 03/24/2005 6:14:10 PM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Well said, John. I've been close to having to make those kind of decisions twice in the last 10 years, and I'm sure it won't be long before I'll have to step into that very lonely void and say goodbye to my mother and father and I will do as they have asked.

I was only 18 when Roe v. Wade was decided by SCOTUS and I was utterly shocked. We were told that abortion would never be common. Lon Horiuchi, an FBI sniper engaged a target that violated all ROEs for snipers, killed a woman in the process, and got off for something that would have gotten me court-martialed. The Posse Comitatus Act supposedly precluded the use of the US military in an enforcement role within the United States, but active duty troops were at Ruby Ridge supporting the FBI and ATF, and we know how that turned out. That's just a few highlights - of many - in the last 30 years. Where will we be and what will we accept as commonplace in another 30?


49 posted on 03/24/2005 6:15:05 PM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired...)
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To: Congressman Billybob

ah yes. None of us want to be on tubes. The difference here is that this is not a terminal patient on tubes, merely a disabled woman who is tube fed for convenience...resource plus is six cans for 4 dollars, and she probably could swallow it by mouth if you gave her some thickener in it and slowly fed it to her.

But thirty years ago, when I worked at an institution for retarded adults, we were sued by the federal government for risking aspiration pneumonia because we fed them with a spoon.

And one neurologist-- Ronald Cranford, has said even spoon feeding a "vegetative" patient was extraordinary treatment and could be stopped.

The demonization of the disabled is increasing in recent years, see:

http://www.raggededgemagazine.com/

I suspect that in Europe, they will institute euthanasia in the next ten years as their elderly population starts bankrupting their society...ironically, it may be the devout Muslims in that continent that will stop this atrocity, not the few Christians left in that sad area...

Finally, yes I agree, none of us want to be disabled, dependent on others, and with a mind that is unable to properly think.

But if all of us have a path to tread before we die, and if you believe God is in control, then contemplate this: What if our disability is God's will? WOuld you accept it, or say, non servium? Believe me, I pray every day that me and mine would never fact such things, but you know I recently moved back to the Philippines so we won't have to face both the unwanted extraordinary treatment in modern hospitals,but also where the frail and elderly are still cared for at home and loved....

IN the US, many many family members leave jobs to care for their loved ones...we docs see this every day. But from the papers, one would not know it...

I am happy my elderly mom died at home, still of her own mind...I have seen many many terrible things. But when you know what is being read and taught, I am afraid...we are losing our moral vocabulary, the ability to recognize that even brain damaged humans are children of God....


50 posted on 03/24/2005 6:15:31 PM PST by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: Nightshift; amdgmary

ping


51 posted on 03/24/2005 6:15:41 PM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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To: T'wit

"It is her family who need comfort and her tormentors who need one's prayers..."

Definitely. Bobby Schindler was on tv this morning (I think was FNC sometime after 9am) saying that people should pray for Terri, but to also pray for Michael Schiavo because he's so lost his way. It was as pure an intention as I've ever heard. May God bless Terri's family who need His comfort.


52 posted on 03/24/2005 6:20:16 PM PST by Fudd Fan (MaryJo Kopechne needed an "exit strategy")
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To: Congressman Billybob

I know how much you Terri supporters hate to hear the truth, but here it is. From the Marc 24th Chicago Tribune. Please note that the alleged "murderer" husband lived with the Schindlers, along with Terri, for 3 years following Terri's collapse. Guess he wasn't a murderer in their eyes until later, when they had their falling out. And note that the SCHINDLERS urged Michael Schiavo to date. THEY urged him to date. Just a little fact or two to throw in amongst all the lies you folks spew.

"When Terri first collapsed, relations between Schindlers and their son-in-law were amicable. The Schiavos moved in with her parents, and they helped him care for their oldest daughter. Eventually, they encouraged him to date. Michael Schiavo even introduced a couple of women to Terri's parents.

He dressed his wife in fancy clothes, applied her makeup, and even took her to California for experimental surgery to implant electrodes in hopes that would stimulate her brain. Michael Schiavo and Mary Schindler belied the tired cliché about mothers-in-law; the two were very close."


53 posted on 03/24/2005 6:27:31 PM PST by flaglady47 (O)
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To: Antoninus

Gov. Bush has a get out of jail free card. W would pardon him.


54 posted on 03/24/2005 6:28:58 PM PST by Mike Darancette (MESOCONS FOR RICE '08)
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To: flaglady47

And all that time, he kept from them, his knowledge that she did not want to live that way; he kept that denial of her wish, for nearly 8 years.


55 posted on 03/24/2005 6:32:31 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: drt1
Good try at eloquence - but, what has become obvious is that the system broke down on this case. This case which, is at a factual basis is not unique.

But now, it laid out for all to see.

Speaking for myself, I am glad I married a Catholic woman. She will do right by me when time comes for that,

56 posted on 03/24/2005 6:33:48 PM PST by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: flaglady47

"Just a little fact or two to throw in amongst all the lies you folks spew."

So people who disagree with you "spew" lies? How respectful of you. I'm impressed.

Obviously in the early days after Terri's collapse there was not yet bad blood between the in-laws. We each have our own theories and interpretations of facts. I disagree with you on major points. So what? I'd not resort to venom at you.


57 posted on 03/24/2005 6:35:43 PM PST by Fudd Fan (MaryJo Kopechne needed an "exit strategy")
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To: Congressman Billybob
In his last election, Judge Greer received substantial contributions from at least five lawyers who have represented Michael over the years. This is a matter of public records in Florida. None of the MSM have bothered to research and report on this.

Lord Almighty! This is insane! Why have I never heard of this before? Do you have a link or something here? Sean Hannity and Rush should know about this!

58 posted on 03/24/2005 6:36:53 PM PST by Zack Nguyen (parties.)
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To: 76834

*I have emailed, written and made phone call to everyone I can think of about the Terri travesty. *

Me too.


59 posted on 03/24/2005 6:41:41 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic (" I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just. " A. Lincoln)
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To: Zack Nguyen

I heard on Fox that MS has denied a priest entry into Terri's room to administer the Last Rites because he regards a communion wafer as food.


60 posted on 03/24/2005 6:42:11 PM PST by Army Air Corps (I am sick of brownshirts in black robes)
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