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Various speechs/texts ^ | 03-24-05 | death2tyrants

Posted on 03/24/2005 6:05:23 PM PST by death2tyrants

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To: whatshisname
Social Security today can't keep you out of the poorhouse, and that was the first program that has lead to a book full of failed programs that "help".
41 posted on 03/26/2005 6:15:47 AM PST by Thebaddog (Dawgs off the coffee table.)
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To: Thebaddog

trying to pack the court didn't help either

and now we know why (as if they did not then)

this process has gone so far that any attempt to put conservative and constructionist jurists on the bench is fought by progressives (and by the way, this term is used in it historical sense as "liberal", i understand the irony that it is now conservatives who are progressive)

...fought with the kind of intensity they should project toward our real enemies (fill in the blank....Islamofascists, Communists, French, whatever)


42 posted on 03/26/2005 6:53:20 AM PST by kralcmot (save us all, fight for Terri's right to Life)
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To: whatshisname
You have no agency with the Social Security program. I have no free will to give money (as I already do give money to the poor) and therefore there are no blessings given to those who are forced to participate in the program. Christ did not support forcing people to engage in programs. Good works must be done of our own freewill surrendering our freewill to God's will.

It is also not governments job to take our money by force and squander all our funds as they do. They are spending our country into bankruptcy because they have ignored our Constitution and the checks and balances that were set in place by our Founding Fathers.

43 posted on 03/26/2005 10:01:14 AM PST by 2nd_Amendment_Defender ("It is when people forget God that tyrants forge their chains." -- Patrick Henry)
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To: death2tyrants

Jimmy "Malaise" Carter


44 posted on 03/26/2005 10:06:49 AM PST by Starboard
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To: infidel29

One death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic.


45 posted on 03/26/2005 10:18:09 AM PST by SaltyJoe (Do you "life" enough to earn your inalienable rights? Does your judge think that you're alive?)
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To: Jibaholic

Fair enough. I'm aware of the shortcomings of a program such as this. No solution is every 100% perfect.

I'll accept your request to do my research if you'll do your research on the state of our society *before* social security. Research on how long those food lines were. How many people lived in poor houses. How many people died from starvation in the streets.

Maybe this is the society you want to go back to. I don't.


46 posted on 03/27/2005 8:23:47 AM PST by whatshisname
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender

> Christ did not support forcing people to engage in programs. Good works must be done of our own freewill surrendering our freewill to God's will.

And in an ideal world, I would agree with you. But in this day of selfish aggrandizement, where more and more people want to pile up piles of money for themselves and keep it to themselves that I don't have a lot of faith that there are enough people out there as good as you to give enough of their hard-earned money away to help people in need.

After all, it's the very idea that people are giving their money away that is the prime motivation behind killing a program that has done so much to give older people a stab at maintaining a life in which they can support themselves in their twilight years. That sentiment has been expressed several times in this very thread.


47 posted on 03/27/2005 8:37:05 AM PST by whatshisname
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Research on how long those food lines were. How many people lived in poor houses. How many people died from starvation in the streets.

That was because Hoover was strangling the economy. The Smoot-Hawley tarriff act kicked off an international trade war, making everything that Americans wanted to buy more expensive. Making things cost more is equivelent to making people poorer. Agriculture was a leading export at the time and farmers were particularly hard hit so in order to protect farmers Hoover began farm subsidies. The government bought surpluss agricultural products to maintain a minimum price to replace the wealth farmers lost from the lack of international trade. This made food more expensive in America so non-farmers were starving. Meanwhile the US government had no use for millions of dollars worth of food so they destroyed it, while people were starving.

Liberals like you have fought and lost this battle hundreds of time throughout history. Government regulations do not grow the economy, they do not put food on poor people's tables. The government is not the solution, it is part of the problem. We need to create jobs and wealth. That means keep as much money as possible in the private sector.

48 posted on 03/27/2005 8:40:12 AM PST by Jibaholic (The facts of life are conservative - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: whatshisname
Welcome to Freerepub.... oh nevermind.

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

49 posted on 03/27/2005 8:41:28 AM PST by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: whatshisname
You will one day regret your statements. Our government wastes our money. They don't care because it isn't their money. Social Security will go bankrupt in the future and when the government program falls apart what will be your opinion of it then?

Social Security and any other major social program where money is forced from people will fail because socialism and communism don't work. When you give bureaucrats money they will simply waste it because they don't care.

We need to be responsible for ourselves and save for our own retirement.

50 posted on 03/27/2005 10:49:23 AM PST by 2nd_Amendment_Defender ("It is when people forget God that tyrants forge their chains." -- Patrick Henry)
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To: expatguy

I'm glad to be here. Everyone is so nice!


51 posted on 06/15/2005 8:39:29 PM PDT by whatshisname
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