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WHAT POLITICAL PRICE WILL REPUBLICANS PAY?
Neal Nuze ^ | 4/24/05 | Boortz

Posted on 03/24/2005 6:44:09 PM PST by NotchJohnson

was absolutely astounded yesterday when Florida Governor Jeb Bush held that press conference and talked about the State of Florida taking custody of Terri Schiavo. He presented to the media the opinion of a doctor that Terri Schiavo was not in a persistent vegetative state .. but rather just in some sort of a period of reduced consciousness. This doctor has never seen Terri Schiavo, except on videotape, and he's issuing findings that are completely at odds with doctors who have been personally examining Terri for many months.

Think about this for a moment. Attending physicians conduct their examinations and make their reports. The matter moves into the courts and is adjudicated ... adjudicated extensively. Nineteen state judges, one Federal District Court judge, one Court of Appeals, and three now four trips to the U.S. Supreme Court. Still, politicians aren't happy with the results ... so now the State contemplates using its police power to seize the body of Terri Schiavo so that she can be forced to endure this horrible existence for years to come.

Across America there are thousands of families who have faced similar situations and made their difficult decisions without political interference. There are tens of millions more who have expressed their wishes, both in writing and in words, that they never be kept alive in this manner. Now these people are watching this hideous spectacle of politicians plotting the literal kidnapping of Terri Schiavo. And why? To please a powerful political constituency .. the ant-abortion lobby.

Maybe it's just me, but I don't think that there are many people out there who, when faced with medical disaster, want to be turned over to politicians to be used as political pawns. I'm wondering if these people will be anxious to keep Republicans in power.


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Neal has never been exactly sympathetic to anyone who can't defend themselves.
1 posted on 03/24/2005 6:44:11 PM PST by NotchJohnson
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To: NotchJohnson

NONE, at least the Repubs have TRIED to save her. Maybe the American People will pay more attention to the election or selection of Judges.


2 posted on 03/24/2005 6:46:04 PM PST by marty60
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To: NotchJohnson

This Doctor has seen Terri. He was not able to examine her but he was in the hospice room with her.


3 posted on 03/24/2005 6:46:56 PM PST by lastchance (Life is sacred.)
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To: NotchJohnson

Obviously Neal is suffering from substantially diminished capacity.


4 posted on 03/24/2005 6:47:14 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: NotchJohnson
WHAT POLITICAL PRICE WILL REPUBLICANS DEMOCRATS PAY?

This is the question that should be asked.

5 posted on 03/24/2005 6:48:03 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: NotchJohnson

The only people who would change their vote on this issue are Republicans--Dems will support their peeps for doing nothing, while the only Republicans who will change their votes are those who won't vote R because they're mad the R's didn't do more. Thus, a sum gain for the D's thanks to idealist pie-in-the-sky Republicans.


6 posted on 03/24/2005 6:48:14 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (An agnostic against abortion and "assisted suicide" based on hearsay)
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To: NotchJohnson

boortz is a bore.

his 15 minutes were up years ago.


7 posted on 03/24/2005 6:49:06 PM PST by ken21 ( if you didn't see it on tv, then it didn't happen. /s)
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To: NotchJohnson

None, Zero, Zip, Nodda..


8 posted on 03/24/2005 6:49:40 PM PST by Next_Time_NJ (NJ demorat exterminator)
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To: Darkwolf377

And they are gloating on DU about that thing right this minute.


9 posted on 03/24/2005 6:50:01 PM PST by tiamat (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: NotchJohnson
I used to listen to Boortz until the station replaced him with Rush. I never liked Rush, but he's growing on me... I don't miss Boortz in the least now. He's fallen into the same trap a lot of people have. The "let her die" trap. She wasn't dying until they removed her nourishment. Just as anyone would. If she could talk she'd be in better shape than Christopher Reeve was in when he died. The left loved him.
10 posted on 03/24/2005 6:50:05 PM PST by infidel29 ("It is only the warlike power of a civilized people that can give peace to the world."- T. Roosevelt)
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To: Darkwolf377

Yes and while they are cutting off their nose to spite their face. More Greer's infest the judiciary.


11 posted on 03/24/2005 6:50:29 PM PST by marty60
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To: NotchJohnson

None


12 posted on 03/24/2005 6:50:59 PM PST by Endeavor (GO ILLINI)
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To: marty60
It doesn't matter if we have Republicans or Democrats in office. We are still, and will continue to get shafted with the 2 party regime.

Call me a pessimist, but tell me, can you really see anything that has changed? I mean REALLY changed? We still have rogue judges, high taxes, out of control government, borders wide open, you name it.

AINT NUTHIN GONNA CHANGE! UNTIL WE DECIDE TO TAKE CONTROL OF OUR COUNTRY!


13 posted on 03/24/2005 6:51:24 PM PST by unixfox (AMERICA - 20 Million ILLEGALS Can't Be Wrong!)
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To: NotchJohnson

If trying to save a life is now a political liability...politics can go and be damned.


14 posted on 03/24/2005 6:51:25 PM PST by RichInOC (...I meant it, I'm not sorry, and I'd say it again.)
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To: NotchJohnson

Neal Boortz on the same side as the old stream media? Hmmm.



15 posted on 03/24/2005 6:51:52 PM PST by listenhillary (If it ain't broke, it will be after the government tries to fix it)
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To: infidel29

Boortz is a great talker, and his show can be very good. But he has always hated pro-lifers. He is weak on moral issues, and voted GOP for the first time in years strictly because of the War on Terror. Otherwise he is a useless 0.3 percent Libertarian.


16 posted on 03/24/2005 6:52:33 PM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: NotchJohnson

I've heard libertarians defend slavery in the old south. Boortz is a libertarian, right? I'm not surprised he doesn't have a lot of compassion for Terri or her family. --


17 posted on 03/24/2005 6:52:36 PM PST by churchillbuff
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To: marty60

Indeed - there is no political price, and the GOP and the dems who joined them will get a bit of an upside, but not much.


18 posted on 03/24/2005 6:52:54 PM PST by HitmanLV
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To: NotchJohnson

The GOP will pay a price for this stupidity. Polls show a huge majority oppose the failed intervention -- my entire family voted for Bush and is registered GOP but everyone of us thinks congress's actions were ridiculous and insulting.

The question is, What should the GOP do for damage control???


19 posted on 03/24/2005 6:53:00 PM PST by gekko1
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To: tiamat
That's actually very interesting--this is giving the DU's a lot of ammo. But they are forgetting that we are very early in the election cycle, and if they seriously think this is somehow going to lead to a huge seachange in politics, they are delusional.

Of course I can't guess at the NUMBERS, but I do think mine is an accurate assessment of the political fallout. We just don't know the volume of the reaction.

20 posted on 03/24/2005 6:53:45 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (An agnostic against abortion and "assisted suicide" based on hearsay)
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To: NotchJohnson

the only way to turn this tragedy into a positive - is to stick together with the people who at least tried to do the right thing, and educate more people about what is going on here. I really believe that if the polls were flipped the other way, our side would be willing to go further out on a limb.

to trash Jeb, GWB, et al - its like a family looking at a firefighter who just had half his faced burned off in a failed attempt to save their child, and saying "why didn't you try harder, the other half of your face is fine".


21 posted on 03/24/2005 6:54:37 PM PST by oceanview
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To: NotchJohnson

What happened, Boortz the tubster, miss the donut cart this morning?

Kill them all, and save me the cream filled donuts!


22 posted on 03/24/2005 6:54:41 PM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (YOU WOULD BE ARRESTED FOR STARVING YOUR DOG OR CAT OR EVEN HAMSTER.)
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To: NotchJohnson

"doctor has never seen Terri Schiavo, except on videotape"

That's not true - the brother was just on Hannity and he said the doctor spent quite some time with her before giving his opinion.


23 posted on 03/24/2005 6:54:54 PM PST by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: over3Owithabrain

Yep, I enjoyed his show while we had it here(it's still on, on a smaller AM station). He's a friend of Dennis Hastert and supports the Fair Tax, but definitely lacking on morals issues.


24 posted on 03/24/2005 6:54:55 PM PST by infidel29 ("It is only the warlike power of a civilized people that can give peace to the world."- T. Roosevelt)
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To: unixfox

Yes well if people would vote based on the constitution rather than their stupid wallets, maybe this can be reversed.


25 posted on 03/24/2005 6:55:25 PM PST by marty60
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To: Next_Time_NJ

What Republicans were trying to do is uphold the constitution, which is their sworn duty to do. If the Judiciary wouldn't have exceeded their constitutional authority Congress would not have had to intervene. They are getting hammered for doing exactly what they had to do. Well, so be it!


26 posted on 03/24/2005 6:55:54 PM PST by Russ
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To: Darkwolf377

You're right.

And the Dems are also forgetting one salient fact: the very SHORT attention-span of the American voter.

Three years from now, most people will have forgotten about Terri Schiavo.

Not saying that that is right, or just, but it IS true.


27 posted on 03/24/2005 6:56:38 PM PST by tiamat (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: muawiyah

I agree. Why are pubs blaming pubs? This is silly and Neal should be more thoughtful.


28 posted on 03/24/2005 6:57:07 PM PST by juggernaut
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To: oceanview

Theresa will be our saint in leading us to do something about activist judges who think they are God in this country. It's time now to revolt.


29 posted on 03/24/2005 6:57:22 PM PST by bethtopaz (Another dopeless hope fiend.)
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To: gekko1

It's the demonDeathPushingRats who are going to end up having to do damage control!


30 posted on 03/24/2005 6:57:31 PM PST by GloriaJane ("How Many Babies Are Crying In Heaven Tonight" http://music.download.com/gloriajane)
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To: infidel29

I've learned to tune Neal out when he is bashing conservative Christians or advocating death. Other times he is a great persuader on economic and defense issues. and he is pretty funny.


31 posted on 03/24/2005 6:57:51 PM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: NotchJohnson
This will not hurt the Republicans at all. The rest of the country will forget, but the right will not forget. I'm a socially conservative Catholic with pretty strong libertarian leanings. I never agreed with the Iraq war and am not very fond of GW Bush. But this event has really brought me back home to the Republicans, as imperfect as they are. At least the Republicans tried. To see the Democrats and liberals trying to pose as strict constructionists of the Constitution, after all of the nonsense they've pulled over the years with judicial activism, is the most galling thing I've ever seen.

As far as I'm concerned, the Constitution is a dead letter and has been so for a while. Both parties only selectively adhere to it when it's convenient to do so, otherwise they find ways to get around it. But when following the letter of the law like this can allow someone to legally commit murder and destroy a family, then something is wrong with the law. Laws can always be changed. But people can't be brought back from the dead and suffering cannot be put away in a box and forgotten.

I received an email from a relative in Italy today. She said everyone is talking about this over there. They think we're crazy. This is sickening.

32 posted on 03/24/2005 6:58:21 PM PST by ValenB4 (ID is ridiculous.)
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To: gekko1

you should read into terry's case...she mysteriously collapsed the very day she was going to confront her husband about a divorce. his testimony has changed about that day several times. the medics on the scene called in the cops for a murder investigation. she ended up not dying so the case fell apart. He ordered no rehab from day one. Also, she never expressed do not resuscitate to any one but her husband and supposedly his brother. Why not her family too? He doesn't want her to regain communication because she would testify against him for attempted murder.


33 posted on 03/24/2005 6:58:51 PM PST by willyd (Good Fences Make Good Neighbors!)
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To: NotchJohnson
WHAT POLITICAL PRICE WILL REPUBLICANS PAY?

I suppose this means they lose the votes of all the "Crucify Her" crowd.

34 posted on 03/24/2005 6:59:56 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: tiamat

Yeah. Just look at the 2004 election. Was ANYONE thinking about Bush's handling of our plane going down in China? Or even were anti-Department of Education folks recalling the millions Bush put into No Child Left Behind? Nope--they thought Big Issue. It just happens. In our case that will be helpful.


35 posted on 03/24/2005 7:00:40 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (An agnostic against abortion and "assisted suicide" based on hearsay)
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To: NotchJohnson
I don't know if the Republicans will pay a political price or not. But Neal Boortz has paid the (admitedly small) price that I no longer listen to him. He's clever and I always made allowances for professed hatred of religion, but his boorishness in this matter is atrocious.
36 posted on 03/24/2005 7:01:18 PM PST by Malesherbes
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To: NotchJohnson

I know this is wrong, but I think the opposite is quite true. Neal and many others are just being plain lazy. This case really did not gain attention until Congress acted. The facts simply were not known. What has been presented by the MSM is that 1)Terri is in a coma; and 2)Terri expressly stated, in writing, that she wanted to die if in this situation; and 3)the Republican congress is intervening in a private matter.

Given those two facts, who wouldn't say Congress was wrong. But we all know those three facts are absolutely crap. Terri is not in a coma, there was no writing, Congress only required the Federal Courts to give de novo review to State Court decisions. Neal's analysis just doesn't seem to jive with the facts. What a shame he takes the convenient, quick analysis proferred by the MSM.


37 posted on 03/24/2005 7:01:35 PM PST by FlipWilson
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To: HitmanNY

You're right.

They may think Congress shouldn't have become involved, because of the he said, she said nature of the family dispute, but the majority who oppose this do not do so because of the fed/states' rights angle.

And when all is said and done, ain't nobody wants to be seen as aiding and abetting schiavo and his boys. They are all pariah, deserved or not.

The judiciary is what will take the hit, because the impression they left was that there was absolutely no quarter in which Terri could find aid and comfort. No quarter!

And finally, all the energy that can be morphed politically is on the side of life. The purveyors of death, how are they going to be able to inspire people and subsequent success by that?


38 posted on 03/24/2005 7:01:51 PM PST by AlbionGirl
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To: marty60
Yes and while they are cutting off their nose to spite their face. More Greer's infest the judiciary.

Greer was elected by the people in Florida in 1992, 1998, and 2004.

39 posted on 03/24/2005 7:02:18 PM PST by eeriegeno
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To: Darkwolf377

Hey, some days we win, because sheeple will be sheeple.

Not nice, but it IS true.


40 posted on 03/24/2005 7:02:27 PM PST by tiamat (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: unixfox

It isn't the 2 party system that's FUBAR - it's the Federal system in general. They have forgotten where it is that their authority comes from - "We The People". They have forgotten that it is "We The People" who are their employers as well as the source of their paychecks. They have become so used to being above the law, and so drunk with power that they have lost their grip on reality.

It is becoming past time for an "attitude adjustment" for our Federal system.


41 posted on 03/24/2005 7:02:37 PM PST by datura (Stress is best relieved using therapeutic high explosives.)
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To: gekko1

Since you just joined today, maybe you lefties should worry about damage control. I see the Senate, that bastion of right wing, voted unanamously to intervene. The professional pols know this issue is a loser. Who wants to be tarred as the party of death?


42 posted on 03/24/2005 7:02:57 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Constitution or bust)
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To: gekko1
Your entire family, if your description of their reasoning is accurate, are in some serious trouble ~ diminished capacity, signs of impending dementia, etc.

Some slick lawyer and a judge like Greer, and you'll be laying there in beds in a hospice sucking juice and waiting for your end while they check into your bankaccounts.

43 posted on 03/24/2005 7:03:00 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: NotchJohnson

Along with lil timmie russert ( the only man in America whose father ever taught him anything) this jerk is another of the stray dogs that Hannity has bet wrong on.


44 posted on 03/24/2005 7:03:52 PM PST by jmaroneps37 (In dealing with liberals remember When you wrestle with a pig, you both get dirty and he loves it.)
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To: Paul C. Jesup

"WHAT POLITICAL PRICE WILL DEMOCRATS PAY?
This is the question that should be asked."




AS HIGH AS WE CAN RAISE IT!


MFJ II April 7 is just the FIRST shot across the bow!


45 posted on 03/24/2005 7:03:56 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (ATTN. MARXIST RED MSM: I RESENT your "RED STATE" switcheroo using our ELECTORAL MAP as PROPAGANDA!)
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To: gekko1

Actually, the "question is" What is wrong with you and your "family"?
Pulled the plug 6 months ago on my Dad. It was what he wanted. He said so for the fifty years that he practiced Medicine.
I never had any doubt.
You, on the other hand might want to consider the integrity of others whom have been gifted the power to make these decisions (through your own hand, apparently)
for your sacrosanct little self.


46 posted on 03/24/2005 7:04:55 PM PST by acapesket (never had a vote count in all my years here)
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To: NotchJohnson

I know I'm going to get flamed, oh well, it won't be the first time.

I've seen plenty of Jeb Bush bashing on this site, and I for one, commend him. Aside from Terri's family, he has done probably the most to try to help her. Many people keep saying that Jeb should go in and remove her himself knowing that he would probably get arrested and then impeached. And what would that serve? Terri would be safe for a short time, but thats it. It's so easy for people to say these things as they sit in the comfort of their homes, behind their computer ... not risking THEIR necks, but urging him to risk his. He has done all he can, the Schindlers have exhausted every option, it's in God's hands now.

And I pray He does something soon, because this is ripping my heart in two.


47 posted on 03/24/2005 7:05:02 PM PST by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: gekko1

Actually, the "question is" What is wrong with you and your "family"?
Pulled the plug 6 months ago on my Dad. It was what he wanted. He said so for the fifty years that he practiced Medicine.
I never had any doubt.
You, on the other hand might want to consider the integrity of others whom have been gifted the power to make these decisions (through your own hand, apparently)
for your sacrosanct little self.


48 posted on 03/24/2005 7:05:30 PM PST by acapesket (never had a vote count in all my years here)
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To: NotchJohnson

Absolutely none, they were the only ones to lift a finger for Terri while the RATS made all kinds of excuses for her to die.


49 posted on 03/24/2005 7:06:02 PM PST by John Lenin (Liberalism =Mental Illness..........Denial of Reality)
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To: VRWC For Truth
"Who wants to be tarred as the party of death?"

gekko1 does. This is so easy.

Democrats are the party of death from the womb to the tomb.

50 posted on 03/24/2005 7:06:28 PM PST by BobS
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