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Jeb Bush Not Likely to Ride to Rescue [Terri Schindler-Schiavo]
WorldNetDaily ^ | 2005-03-25 01:00 EST | Staff

Posted on 03/24/2005 10:50:16 PM PST by Messianic Jews Net

STARVATION: DAY 8

Jeb Bush not likely to ride to rescue

Florida governor indicates he won't defy court order

Posted: March 25, 2005

1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

Those hoping Florida Gov. Jeb Bush will step forward to save Terri Schiavo from imminent, court-ordered starvation death are likely to be disappointed, based on his comments to a group of reporters following county court Judge George Greer's ruling against the state's effort to take custody of the brain-injured woman at the center of a worldwide euthanasia controversy.

While Bush reiterated his motivation to save Schiavo, based on new evidence that she is not in a persistent vegetative state and is, to some degree, conscious of her surroundings, the governor said "it isn't possible to remove her" from the hospice.

Earlier in the week, there were hints from the Bush administration that the Department of Children and Families might use force, if necessary, to stabilize Terri Schiavo and remove her from the facility.

"The judge is so focused on carrying out whatever decision he made years ago, that I guess the additional information he just rejected out of hand, and rejected the ability of the department to go in and stabilize her," he said. "It isn't possible right now to remove her. ... Given the fact that she's being starved to death it would be difficult to move her."

Bush downplayed the earlier reports about the possibility of action by the DCF.

"We never said that unilaterally we would do something that's against the court," he said. "I've been asked to do it by a lot of people – a lot of the advice I'm getting over the Internet and over television and the like. I know that there were lots of rumors of things that aren't accurate. I have a duty to uphold the law and I have been very consistent about that. It seemed like a big story that never was confirmed because it wasn't true. If we had that ability to do it, if there wasn't an injunction, we would do it right now. We would stabilize her by giving her hydration. We couldn't put a feeding tube in. There was already a court order in place. The opportunity we had was appealing his decision."

A prominent evangelical Christian leader yesterday urged Bush to disobey the judge's order barring the Florida governor from intervening to save the life of Terri Schiavo. In a statement shortly after Judge George Greer's decision, Rev. D. James Kennedy pointed to Bush "as the only legal authority who can save the life of Terri Schiavo."

Kennedy, president of Coral Ridge Ministries, said Bush "must act and he must act immediately on her behalf."

"He must disregard the order of Judge Greer," Kennedy said. "He has both the authority and the duty to do so under the state constitution."

Greer rejected Bush's request to grant the governor protective custody. On Wednesday he barred the Department of Children & Families from taking custody. Also yesterday, the U.S. Supreme Court rejected a request from Terri Schiavo's parents, Robert and Mary Schindler, for an emergency order allowing her feeding tube to be reinserted.

As WorldNetDaily reported, Bush appeared to be clearing the way for the possibility unilateral action when he appeared at a news conference Wednesday to confirm the DCF, under his authority, has the legal right to remove Terri Schiavo, by force if necessary, from the hospice where she has lived the past five years.

Bush said new information had come to light warranting intervention, including a review of Terri Schiavo's condition by neurologist Dr. William Cheshire, who claims she may have been misdiagnosed. Cheshire believes Schiavo to be in a "minimally conscious state," not a "persistent vegetative state" as Greer has determined.

"It is imperative that she be stabilized so the DCF team can fulfill their statute to review the facts surrounding the case," Bush said.

Kennedy said Bush should be commended for his efforts over the past two years – which include the state legislature's passage of "Terri's Law" – but he noted those efforts "thus far has proven fruitless." The law later was declared unconstitutional.

"Neither the state legislature nor the courts, state or federal, have been willing to act on behalf of this helpless woman who is now within hours of death," Kennedy said.

Kennedy points out the Florida Constitution states in Article I, Section 2, that "[a]ll natural persons, female and male alike, are equal before the law, and have inalienable rights, among which are the right to enjoy and defend life ... ." According to the Constitution, "no person shall be deprived of any right [including the right to enjoy life] because of ... physical disability."

Similar arguments were brought to Florida's capital this morning by former Judicial Watch Chairman Larry Klayman and former presidential candidate Alan Keyes. Keyes wrote a column published yesterday by WorldNetDaily, arguing for Bush to step in and save Schiavo amid judicial abuse of the separation of powers.

"I have talked to a whole lot of people that I respect, not just now but the first time when Terri's law was passed, to make the determination of what my powers are and they are not as expansive as people would want them to be," Bush said yesterday. "And I understand, they're acting on their heart and I fully appreciate their sentiments and the emotions that go with this, but .... I've consistently said that I can't go beyond what my powers are and I'm not going to do it. There are 90,000 abortions that take place in this state every year. That troubles me more than I can ever describe, but that doesn't mean that I have some secret powers to stop that. There are a lot of things that go on in society that trouble me and this is certainly one of them. To have someone starve to death troubles me greatly and we have done everything we can and we will continue to do so within the powers that I have."

Editor's note: WorldNetDaily has been reporting on the Terri Schiavo story since 2002 – far longer than any other national news organization – and exposing the many troubling, scandalous, and possibly criminal, aspects of the case that to this day rarely surface in news reports. Read WorldNetDaily's unparalleled, in-depth coverage of the life-and-death fight over Terri Schiavo, including over 150 original stories and columns.


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Jeb has just given Whittemore the green light to give the red light.

Terri has one hope left: the Sovereign People.

What better crime to be arrested for than giving water to the thirsty?

Unless People Power overcomes at the hospice in Tampa today, it looks like God is letting another victim die for the sins of others.

Messianic Jew Richard Wurmbrand ("Where Christ is Still Tortured", et al.) would say, "How does God fare when his children are still being cruelly killed?"

1 posted on 03/24/2005 10:50:17 PM PST by Messianic Jews Net
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To: Messianic Jews Net

Why do politicians seek election to office if they are going to hand responsibility for legislating to unelected judges?

One of the great mysteries of our time.


2 posted on 03/24/2005 10:52:35 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (Stop Hillary - PEGGY NOONAN '08)
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To: Messianic Jews Net

I'm sick of hearing Dems claim that Republican are "playing politics with what should be a family issue." Republicans are acting at the request of the family. They are responding to their constituents who care deeply about this issue.


3 posted on 03/24/2005 10:56:02 PM PST by Callahan
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To: Messianic Jews Net

I think it's about all we could expect of Governor Bush. Sadly, I think we're learning some lessons the hard way. The first one is that we have to be careful who we put forward, not just in terms of their beliefs, but in terms of their courage. The truth is Jeb could do something, but he could face hell from the State Senate. He could face hell from the liberals and even big brother. Remember, Roy Moore stood up to the judges and look what happened to him! I guess the thought is, "better a live coward than a dead hero."


4 posted on 03/24/2005 10:56:26 PM PST by Keyes2000mt (http://adamsweb.us/blog Conservative Truth for Idaho)
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To: Aussie Dasher

The law in this case is pretty clear. It's the fact pattern that needs to be reviewed.


5 posted on 03/24/2005 10:57:31 PM PST by Callahan
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To: Callahan

Is there a law against murder in Florida? If so, it should take precedence.


6 posted on 03/24/2005 10:59:21 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (Stop Hillary - PEGGY NOONAN '08)
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To: Keyes2000mt

"I think it's about all we could expect of Governor Bush. Sadly, I think we're learning some lessons the hard way. The first one is that we have to be careful who we put forward, not just in terms of their beliefs, but in terms of their courage. The truth is Jeb could do something, but he could face hell from the State Senate. He could face hell from the liberals and even big brother. Remember, Roy Moore stood up to the judges and look what happened to him! I guess the thought is, "better a live coward than a dead hero."


I agree. I see nothing more Jeb can do.


7 posted on 03/24/2005 11:01:02 PM PST by GottaLuvAkitas1 (Ronald Reagan is the TRUE "Father Of Our Country".)
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To: Keyes2000mt

There isn't enough popular support to just defy the courts.


8 posted on 03/24/2005 11:01:45 PM PST by Callahan
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To: Messianic Jews Net

Indite Michael Schiavo for murder one!


9 posted on 03/24/2005 11:02:15 PM PST by Big Guy and Rusty 99 (Watch out for bears, to them you are spaghetti dinner)
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To: Aussie Dasher
Yes Jeb could do more. But you and I could assembly 40 or more patriots like those who stood on Lexington Green. But it would cost us. It would take courage. And I for one have not shown any willingness to go to jail/prison. I should but I haven't.
10 posted on 03/24/2005 11:06:29 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 (Technology advances but human nature is dependably stagnant)
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To: Monterrosa-24

I wish I had the money to get over there. I would happily join those brave children who tried to bring water to Terri.


11 posted on 03/24/2005 11:13:28 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (Stop Hillary - PEGGY NOONAN '08)
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To: Aussie Dasher

You bring up a good point. The young folks at least tried to do something. I salute them. Some will say they were "used" by adults but they seemed to know what they were about and they weren't sitting around just watching the world or trying to be trendy and cool.

Parents were crying out for water for their daughter and those two youngsters answered the call.


13 posted on 03/24/2005 11:19:26 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 (Technology advances but human nature is dependably stagnant)
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To: Messianic Jews Net

Basically I guess the judge is above the law at least according to Jeb. He has stopped an agency from performing a legal duty that is required of them to do. It is sad when a judge can intimidate a Governor, a President and a state agency and have them stand by helpless while they commit state sanctioned murder.


14 posted on 03/24/2005 11:19:27 PM PST by MSCASEY (Our God is an Awesome God!)
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To: Accipiter

Jeb Bush legacy and that of the GOP will be one of weakness and impotency for his failure to act.

If he does nothing to stop her murder he is politically dead.

We will not forget.


17 posted on 03/24/2005 11:20:36 PM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: Messianic Jews Net
>i> I've consistently said that I can't go beyond what my powers are and I'm not going to do it.

An idiot and a coward all rolled up into one package. It's shameful being a Republican at times like this.
18 posted on 03/24/2005 11:21:25 PM PST by farmer18th ("The fool says in his heart there is no God.")
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To: Aussie Dasher

Me too! I would have something organized so that all hell would let loose down there. I would not take it! I would go to jail.

I was once in the National Enquiror after grabbing some jerks gun that was shooting birds at the golf course. I told him he was done shooting for the day.


19 posted on 03/24/2005 11:22:36 PM PST by MSCASEY (Our God is an Awesome God!)
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To: Keyes2000mt

Utter rubbish. And parroted right from Keyes.


21 posted on 03/24/2005 11:25:41 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Keyes2000mt

Utter rubbish. And parroted right from Keyes.


22 posted on 03/24/2005 11:25:41 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Accipiter
Does Jeb and George and the GOP morons who wrote a lousy law that was laughed at ignored by the lawyers in charge of this country really think they are going to be able to overcome the fallout that will result from their inaction?.

That they will be able to enjoy the wide support of an electorate that sees them for what they have unmasked themselves to be, impotent, powerless, fools who care more about their own political hides that stopping a psychotic male nurse with a death fetish and a swamp judge from starving a brain damaged woman to death during of all times Holy week?

They can kiss the majority goodbye.

25 posted on 03/24/2005 11:27:13 PM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: Messianic Jews Net

Terri would have died several years if it weren't for Jeb's work. He's done his best.


26 posted on 03/24/2005 11:29:24 PM PST by JohnBDay
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To: Howlin

Told ya...ingrates...every one of em.


27 posted on 03/24/2005 11:29:52 PM PST by KDD
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To: Keyes2000mt

I don't think Judge Moore provides very good comparison. His decision wasn't nearly as easy as Jeb's should be.


30 posted on 03/24/2005 11:33:02 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: Howlin

Retiring for the night.

Your ping to some sane threads is appreciated.


31 posted on 03/24/2005 11:33:07 PM PST by KDD
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To: KDD

Of course, you were right. Again.


32 posted on 03/24/2005 11:33:15 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Messianic Jews Net
First of all I do not believe it is not possible to go in and get Terri Schindler, that's rubbish. But for the sake of argument, let's say it's TRUE.

Why doesn't Jeb take some members of Florida Law Enforcement and/or the National Guard with him and a MEDICAL TEAM, secure the premises and go to hospice, reinsert the tube and administer nourishment to Terri. Leave Law Enforcement both outside and inside hospice and outside and inside Terri's room. When her condition stabilizes, REMOVE her.

33 posted on 03/24/2005 11:33:40 PM PST by TAdams8591 (The call you make may be the one that saves Terri's life!!!!!!)
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To: Howlin

Nice to hear from you Howlin. You never call or write, you just kind of show up to insult me, but that's cool.

However, the governor's obligation is to protect the citizens of the state and if citizens aren't safe because the governor doesn't have the guts to stand up to a run-away court that defied the judiciary, then I make my judgments.


35 posted on 03/24/2005 11:39:16 PM PST by Keyes2000mt (http://adamsweb.us/blog Conservative Truth for Idaho)
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To: KDD

I'm sorry.

Thanks for the totally ineffectual action meant to placate us. :) Better?


36 posted on 03/24/2005 11:40:16 PM PST by Keyes2000mt (http://adamsweb.us/blog Conservative Truth for Idaho)
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To: Keyes2000mt
you just kind of show up to insult me

Just like you always manage to show up to bash anything with the name Bush on it.

It must be nice and comfortable where you all are, sitting there criticizing a sitting president and a sitting governor. Of course, it's all unusued advice as the great Keyes hasn't even had to put his money where his mouth is.

It's so easy to criticize when you have no constituency and/or can call for anarchy without having to pay the consequency for that.

BTW, I didn't see Mr. Keyes' a$$ being drug off to jail today; he was there -- why didn't HE get arrested with the little children?

37 posted on 03/24/2005 11:43:57 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Callahan

Just like with most things pertaining to values or morals I think the liberal dems have underestimated true conservatives. Some speak of the polls being in favor of letting Terri die, but I think that is just due to the media distorting the facts. The same people that support abortion or say theya re pro choice are the same ones that support killing an innocent woman. Those that support either position are not true conservatives.


39 posted on 03/24/2005 11:55:48 PM PST by Netizen (USA - Land of the free, home of the brave, where the handicapped are legally starved and dehydrated!)
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To: Keyes2000mt

Roy Moore has guts, Jeb doesn't.


40 posted on 03/24/2005 11:59:17 PM PST by Lori675
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To: JohnBDay
Terri would have died several years if it weren't for Jeb's work. He's done his best.

Well said. He's done everything he can do, and I'm sure is still working trying to figure out a LEGAL way to handle this matter. He will not break the law like Reno did.

41 posted on 03/25/2005 12:00:17 AM PST by alwaysontheright
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To: infidel44

Best post on FR.

Judge Greer is now Governor of the state of Floriduh, by default. Jeb Bush is now an IDIOT to be consigned to the scrap-pile of history, with absolutely no political future.
Terri is dead lady.


42 posted on 03/25/2005 12:00:31 AM PST by Lori675
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To: Messianic Jews Net
Here's my link about this that has the Florida Constitution.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1370114/posts?q=1&&page=1

43 posted on 03/25/2005 12:02:15 AM PST by pulaskibush
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To: Messianic Jews Net
Jeb: "I have a duty to uphold the law and I have been very consistent about that."

Judge's opinions ARE NOT LAW. They are given the EFFECT OF LAW only by executive enforcement. No enforcement - no effect of law. Judge's opinions are so routinely enforced - as they should be - that anything else becomes inconceivable to people conditioned by habit and unfamiliar with the reasoning that went into separation of powers when equal branches of government disagree.
44 posted on 03/25/2005 12:05:19 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: pc93

OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD!

I just clicked on the link and surfed that site. Did you see this?

http://www.theempirejournal.com/0313055_schiavogate_the_big_cove.htm

If you don't want to read the whole thing, the last section entitled: "Clerk Required to do Annual Review" is a must read. If this is true, it explains everything... and what is happening in that county is absolutely bone chilling!!

OH MY GOD!


45 posted on 03/25/2005 12:06:26 AM PST by schmelvin
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To: alwaysontheright

You say, Jeb will not break the law like Reno did.

An innocent woman is being starved to death.
If you call sending in troopers to save an innocent woman breaking the law. Your a fool.


47 posted on 03/25/2005 12:11:28 AM PST by Lori675
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To: MSCASEY
About your tagline. Do you really believe that?

And if so, don't you think that God does NOT need Jeb Bush in order to accomplish His will?

You are putting your faith in man, not God.

I think God is very much in control and if it is HIS will for Terri to live, then that will be accomplished. I honestly can't see that God would allow a decent God fearing man like Jeb to be destroyed over this.

If you truly trust in God, then maybe you should consider that perhaps God wants her home.
48 posted on 03/25/2005 12:46:08 AM PST by texasflower ("America's vital interests and our deepest beliefs are now one." President George W. Bush 01/20/05)
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To: Rome2000

No, they will only kiss the radical fringe nutjobs goodbye.

I'll be waving good bye to them also.


49 posted on 03/25/2005 12:48:38 AM PST by texasflower ("America's vital interests and our deepest beliefs are now one." President George W. Bush 01/20/05)
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To: JohnBDay

I agree.


50 posted on 03/25/2005 12:50:04 AM PST by texasflower ("America's vital interests and our deepest beliefs are now one." President George W. Bush 01/20/05)
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