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Nazis Used Starvation to Kill
newsmax.com ^ | Saturday, March 26, 2005 6:22 p.m. EST

Posted on 03/26/2005 4:23:47 PM PST by InvisibleChurch

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To: Earthdweller

Here. #30


201 posted on 03/26/2005 5:59:35 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: Reactionary
If anyone leaks a picture of Terri Schiavo....

Please, Lord, let it happen.

202 posted on 03/26/2005 6:00:11 PM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.d)
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To: bobdsmith
Other radiologist have said that the damage appears to be equivalent to the normal mental state of a somewhat senile lady in her mid-seventies. Sometimes, when you are making life and death decisions, you should go the extra mile. People should not be written off as easily as your old heap.

Here is a copy of her scan: http://www.miami.edu/ethics/schiavo/CT%20scan.png

Perhaps one of our medical specialist can help to shed some light on it.
203 posted on 03/26/2005 6:01:01 PM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

Did you take your ugly pills today, Mr/Ms. Personality Plus?


204 posted on 03/26/2005 6:02:34 PM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.d)
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To: ARCADIA

BTW: The wiggly stuff towards the front and sides of the head is part of her cerebral cortex. The blank area in the middle shows some of the damage. How much capacity she retains is anybody's guest.


205 posted on 03/26/2005 6:03:48 PM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: The_Reader_David

I am a non-religious conservative so apparently I am immune from the mass self-deception that is being induced on this issue.

What I now see is that people have become emotionally attached to this issue, not because they want to save terri, but because they hate this michael and greer guy so much that they WANT terri to be concious just so they can prosecute these guys. Forget that all the evidence supports the lower court rulings, people are simply believing what they want to believe. Go - look on the internet and find the opinion of bloggers who have studied neurology and conclude that there is no point in doing and MRI because the CAT scans show so much damage.

All the other side really has is this video and experts who largely quote the video as their evidence. I've seen the video, and most distributers fail to mention it is selectively clipped from a longer *4 1/2 hour video*. Also that the behaviour seen such as laughter, blinking is typical of pvs (from what I have read)

The refusal of the higher courts to act? Good! As far as I know there have been no laws broken so there is no reason for higher courts to get involved in local issues.


206 posted on 03/26/2005 6:06:48 PM PST by bobdsmith
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To: bobdsmith

but then again seeing as so many people are asking for it there is no harm doing an MRI just to humour people.


207 posted on 03/26/2005 6:09:57 PM PST by bobdsmith
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To: bobdsmith

I am not a religious person either; but I know right from wrong; and this situation really stinks. You may want to review some of your "evidence" it is not as conclusive as your predisposition has made you believe.


208 posted on 03/26/2005 6:10:48 PM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: bobdsmith
All the issues that we're discussing on these Terri threads, very little of it is getting into the MSM media, such as local newspapers. But the anti-Terri spin of USA Today articles are being reprinted in our local papers.

For instance, my local conservative paper, the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, today published USA Today's cover story "It's all about the money", accusing the Schindlers of harassing Michael Schiavo for a share of his insurance settlement. The entire focus of the article is negative against Terri's parents and it shows Judge Greer and Michael in an extremely positive light.

My opinion: the conservative press sees that this issue is hurting Bush, so they now need to destroy the Schindler family and make this controversy a non-issue. Another motivation is the complaint from some conservatives that Bush and Congress shouldn't get involved because it's the intrusion of big government into our lives.

We can't even get the truth from our conservative newspapers. It's a tragedy.

209 posted on 03/26/2005 6:13:56 PM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.d)
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To: MsLady

You are mistaken: one can breath with a fully intact brain-stem, even if the cerebral cortex is missing. (Witness the breathing unassisted during the short lives of those with the misfortune of being born anencephalous.)


210 posted on 03/26/2005 6:14:08 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will understand. . .)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

(Shes brain dead...she wont ever get better, she wont ever feel emotion, she wont ever feed herself, she wont ever get up...nothing...she will just sit there, smiling with a lifeless, dead grin on her face. Is that what you want?)

How do you know what she's feeling? NOBODY really knows what she is feeling!!!!! If she was my sister, I'd rather have her to visit and have her smile at me, than what that poor woman is going through! God Bless all those fighting for Terri!


211 posted on 03/26/2005 6:21:20 PM PST by Die_Hard Conservative Lady (I have left this blank for a reason....)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Wonder if this Judge could be tried in some world court fro murder.


212 posted on 03/26/2005 6:23:53 PM PST by Ibredd
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To: bobdsmith
The refusal of the higher courts to act? Good! As far as I know there have been no laws broken so there is no reason for higher courts to get involved in local issues.

Bump for emphasis to your ultimate conclusion. GOOD! GOOD! you say. GOOD! No laws broken, GOOD!

213 posted on 03/26/2005 6:30:41 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: bobdsmith
As far as I know there have been no laws broken ...

The holocaust of the Jews of Europe at the hands of the Nazis was all done in accordance with German law. The judges of the Reich upheld all of the "laws" established by the Nazi regime. This was the basis of their "vee vere only following zee laws, honorable tribunal" defense at Nuremberg.

Well, it didn't work at Nuremberg, and it won't work here. They were still found guilty of crimes against humanity. Because, you see, the laws they broke were of a higher order, the ones that say we don't murder innocent people. Those are the laws that any people who dare call themselves civilized, a cut above our barbaric and brutal ancestors, hold to be true. The tragedy of Terri Schindler, aside from that of her own impending execution at the hands of a judge of this land, is that this nation, by it's acceptance of this state-sanctioned murder and the turning of a blind eye to it by the people, is that we are going down the same bloody road. We haven't learned from history. Those who today advocate the death of Terri Schindler at the behest of another are only a few short, slippery steps down the slippery slope from the Nazi terror. The slope is indeed slippery, slippery with the blood of innocent persons like Terri Schindler.

214 posted on 03/26/2005 6:34:18 PM PST by chimera
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To: Ibredd
"Wonder if this Judge could be tried in some world court fro murder."

Of the six billion people watching Florida-Greer's execution of the helpless by Starvation
three billion people are eagerly waiting for his prosecution and incarceration and justice.

215 posted on 03/26/2005 6:43:48 PM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: InvisibleChurch

I just took some of the best phrases posted above on this topic and put it in an email to Governor Bush and to President Bush, begging someone to read it and pass it along.

I don't know what else I can do besides pray and send emails. And I've sent off at least a half dozen emails.

Something I've always thought is that the USofA would lose its status and become a Third World Nation before the "end" of the World. But I never thought I'd be living when it happened.


216 posted on 03/26/2005 6:57:01 PM PST by HighlyOpinionated (SAVE TERRI SCHIAVO'S LIFE -- send in the Guard or Marshals. Let's Roll!)
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To: Diogenesis
three billion people are eagerly waiting for his prosecution and incarceration and justice.

You left out castration; but, that is just for sport.
217 posted on 03/26/2005 7:05:52 PM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: bobdsmith
As far as I know there have been no laws broken so there is no reason for higher courts to get involved in local issues.

No laws were broken in Nazi Germany during the euthanasia years.

All of those "useless feeders" were exterminated with a judge's signature on the death order.

But hey, most German doctor's agreed: they were "life unworthy of life," as they put it.

218 posted on 03/26/2005 7:07:30 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: zarf

"It's the husbands decision."

I think Florida state law says when there is no directive, the patient's wishes are determined by the court, and the US Supreme Court says the standard to be used is clear and convincing evidence.


219 posted on 03/26/2005 7:09:00 PM PST by ironman
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To: ironman
I think Florida state law says when there is no directive, the patient's wishes are determined by the court, and the US Supreme Court says the standard to be used is clear and convincing evidence.

The Florida court has found the facts favor the husband's POV. The appeals courts have bakced up this decision almost unanimously in every case.

It's over. It's Michaels decision that carries the day.

220 posted on 03/26/2005 7:40:22 PM PST by zarf
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To: Melinda
Hey Zarf, ever see someone die from starvation and dehydration? I have. The loved-one's last words, one day before death, were "shoot me". Now that's what I call a melt-down.


To everybody!!!
Why would you waste precious time to engage in answering this NAZI "born" ZARF???
221 posted on 03/26/2005 7:41:58 PM PST by danamco
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To: Numbers Guy

"shes [sic] brain dead"
If she is brain dead, how could she smile and say Mommy?


222 posted on 03/26/2005 9:44:07 PM PST by garjog
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To: danamco

I agree, but at Easter, hope springs eternal.


223 posted on 03/27/2005 6:00:15 AM PST by Melinda
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To: Travis McGee

And our current laws also justify the use of contraceptive devices. Do you disagree with that too?

A stupid comparions maybe, but no more stupid as comparing this issue with the nazi's.


224 posted on 03/27/2005 4:50:04 PM PST by bobdsmith
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To: bobdsmith
Starving and dehydrating a non-terminally ill woman to death by court order is the same as allowing contraceptives?

You are insane. Seek professional help.

225 posted on 03/27/2005 5:13:49 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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