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The Motive Becomes Chillingly Clear (Michael Schiavo)
RenewAmerica.us ^ | March 23, 2005 | Mary Mostert

Posted on 03/27/2005 6:31:02 AM PST by gesully

When did Michael Schiavo first start trying to kill Terri? Mary Mostert March 23, 2005

Because I try to track down facts before I write about a subject, I have not written about Terri Schiavo and the battle over her condition. What actually happened to Terri back in 1990 that caused her to be the topic of world conversation today? Before we decide to permanently dispose of her, shouldn't we first find out how she got into this predicament?

Well, she collapsed, we are told by her husband Michael, in 1990 and was taken to the hospital . Some stories say she had a heart attack. Other stories, including a medical report by Dr. William Hammesfahr, a world-reknowned neurologist, totally refute any heart attack. Hammesfahr reported:

"Ms Schiavo was in her usual state of good health until 2/25/90, when her husband reported that he was awakened from sleep approximately 6 Am by her falling. He reports that she was unresponsive. "Paramedics were called, and aggressive resuscitation was performed with 7 defibrillations en route.

"In the Emergency Room, a possible diagnosis of heart attack was briefly entertained, but then dismissed after blood chemistries and serial EKG's did not show evidence of a heart attack."

Some reports guess that she collapsed due to an effort to lose weight — although, she was not at the time overweight. Hammesfahr's report stated:

"The patient had a difficult hospital course with the development of poorly controlled seizures and prolonged coma state requiring, for a time, ventilator support. However, the staff noted improvement, and it was recommended by several physicians that she be discharged to an intensive rehabilitation center."

In 1992, Michael Schiavo sued for malpractice and won over a $1 million. He was personally awarded $300,000 for his "loss" and $700,000 for Terri's rehabilitation and care for the rest of her natural life. However, the therapy, after the award, was not approved by Michael Schiavo and she was confined to a nursing home after the settlement.

It was after the settlement that Michael first claimed that Terri had previously stated that she didn't want to be kept alive by artificial means — a statement he never mentioned during the malpractice trial. He has never produced any written proof that Terri said that.

Beginning almost immediately after receiving the malpractice funds, Michael Schiavo, as Terri's legal guardian, began to refuse approval for ANY therapy or rehabilitation efforts and she has been confined to bed.

Since 1995, Michael Schiavo has lived openly with a girlfriend, Jodi Centonze, with whom he has two children, while remaining legally married to Terri, as well as being her legal her guardian.

In 1998, Michael Schiavo petitioned the court to have Terri's feeding tube removed. In 2003, Michael Schiavo's attorneys reported that the trust fund was down to $50,000, with more than $430,000 going to "pay for court costs associated with her husband's legal battle to remove his wife's feeding tube." Meanwhile, Medicaid helps to pay Terri's $5,000-a-month nursing costs at a hospice in Pinellas Park, Florida. 13

During this time period, Terri's parents have attempted to gain guardianship over their daughter. During the legal battles that have ensued, in 2003 a deposition was taken from Dr. William Campbell Walker, a radiologist, concerning a bone scan the hospital did on Terri in 1991. That bone scan revealed what Dr. Walker reported at the time as "compression fracture in the 19 vertebral body of the spine."

For seven years as Terri has been consistently denied rehabilitation treatment that, according to several doctors, would have significantly improved her chances of recovery, Michael spent her money awarded for her therapy on lawyers trying to get her starved to death. Several doctors pointed out, including Dr. Hammesfahr, that Terri not only CAN swallow on her own, but frequently DOES swallow and pictures shown clearly indicate, as Hammesfahr and other testify, that she can and does respond to voice commands and particularly to her parents.

This would indicate that she is NOT in what the State of Florida defines as a "vegetative" state. It also makes me wonder, now that the feeding tube is removed, if any effort to help her swallow water or food is being made today, or whether under the court order spoon feeding also has been outlawed? Terri's parents, if they just came and got her and took her home, I guess would be arrested for kidnapping under Florida's legal system.

At this point, the legal system of Florida has, in the words of one legal observer, created the "framework for legal euthanasia." Of course, euthanasia is technically the practice of killing someone painlessly because they prefer death to life for whatever reason. I would not classify starvation as a "painless" way to die.

Dr. Hammesfahr stated in his report:

"In the spring of 2000, three physicians, including Dr. Jay Carpenter, who is a former Chief of Medicine at Morton Plant Hospital, filed affidavits after observing Ms. Schiavo. All three physicians stated that it is visually apparent that Ms Schiavo is able to swallow and, in fact, does swallow her own saliva.

"The patient continued with no physical therapy, communication or speech therapy, or routine medical screening evaluations and treatment such as dental care, mammography, gynecological exams or pap smears during this time."

Under these conditions and questions, it would appear to me that Terri SHOULD have a totally different guardian, such as her parents, until some questions are answered about the spinal and other injuries that appeared on her bone scan a decade ago. Why is it that a man who clearly wants his wife dead, cannot explain how she actually got into the state she is in, or produce ANY proof, other than his unsubstantiated words, that she would want to die, is being unquestioningly defended by the Florida courts?

Increasingly, it appears to me, that Terri would have gotten better care had her husband never won that malpractice suit and been given $1 million to spend — much of it on lawyers to legally kill off his wife.

It all makes me wonder just when Michael Schiavo made his first effort to kill Terri? Was it before or after she ended up in the hospital with an unexplained problem that put her in a coma?

Mary Mostert is a nationally-respected political writer. She was one of the first female political commentators to be published in a major metropolitan newspaper in the 1960s. After working in President Lyndon Johnson's failed War on Poverty programs in New York state, she became a Republican. She ran, unsuccessfully, for the New York State Senate and became campaign manager for a number of candidates. She once served as the secretary of "Positive Action NOW!"--a South African women's group that sought to reduce the hostility among South Africa's various racial, religious, and political groups.

In recent years, Mary has researched, written, and edited articles for national talk show host Michael Reagan's Information Interchange on the Internet, and for The REAGAN MONITOR, a monthly newsletter that provides in-depth information on key issues. Her book, COMING HOME - Families Can Stop the Unraveling of America," was published in 1996 by Gold Leaf Press. Mary maintains a political media site, Banner of Liberty. She can be contacted at mary@bannerofliberty.com . Click here for more information.


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To: maryz
ASSUMING:1. she was bulimic and was 70% responsible
2. her doctors should have known and were 30% responsible

If those facts are correct, why doesn't MS share any responsibility? there are no medical tests for bulimia , but if he is living with her he should be in a better position to know than her doctors.
also aren't many women bulimic because of abusive husbands....
151 posted on 03/27/2005 9:44:45 AM PST by avile
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To: cajungirl; BIGLOOK

Take a look at these links to a medical blog which has analyzed her injuries and some of the records:

http://codeblueblog.blogs.com/codeblueblog/

http://codeblueblog.blogs.com/codeblueblog/2005/03/csi_medblogs_co_1.html

http://codeblueblog.blogs.com/codeblueblog/2005/03/csi_medblogs_co.html


152 posted on 03/27/2005 9:45:05 AM PST by texasbluebell
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To: cajungirl

So many red flags here that it boggles the mind.


153 posted on 03/27/2005 9:46:35 AM PST by texasbluebell
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To: shezza

I understand that the Schindler's took their retirement money and paid for Terri's rehab prior to the lawsuit. They supposedly had an agreement with MS that they would be repaid if he won the lawsuit. The plans were to build a house especially equipped for someone in Terri's condition and have the Schindler's take care of her.
The Schindlers went to the nursing home, found out about the DNR order, confronted Michael about the order and the money. MS got angry, began throwing things, and severed relationship with the in-laws.


154 posted on 03/27/2005 9:47:51 AM PST by pickyourpoison (" Laus Deo ")
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To: cajungirl

People with eating disorders keep it very much a secret. So I am not surprised by this.

So, he was seeing a doctor for maybe some mental health reasons, so what.


155 posted on 03/27/2005 9:48:02 AM PST by Beeline40@aol.com (What is an Esthetician...?)
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To: MizSterious

Thank you. I was looking for that the other day.


156 posted on 03/27/2005 9:50:23 AM PST by beyond the sea (Colonial Script........... or nationalize The Federal Bank..)
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To: avile

Yes, sometimes. And sometimes when this occurs is because the person (more women than men) has self esteem problems that could be the result of being called fat. There are many reasons not just one specific one.


157 posted on 03/27/2005 9:50:36 AM PST by Beeline40@aol.com (What is an Esthetician...?)
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To: cajungirl
Was there a trial and a settlement post verdict?

I guess -- I'm still pretty cloudy on the whole story. My earlier post was more or less pieced together from various bits and pieces. The one reference I recall to a jury is 70% Terri's responsibility. If there was a jury, I would assume the jury made an award, which doesn't explain the talk of settlement. I read on FR that someone on a talking head show mentioned a $7-$8 million verdict. So I don't know.

I do know most settlements -- big ones anyway -- carry a confidentiality agreement (though word often leaks out). And most people are pretty close-mouthed about money anyway.

158 posted on 03/27/2005 9:52:46 AM PST by maryz
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To: thoughtomator

I found it odd that she was i Hospice for 5 years, I thought that Hospice was for terminally ill patients with a 6 month life. Wonder if the fact that his lawyer is on the board of directors has anything to do with it.....even so, why hospice?


159 posted on 03/27/2005 9:53:15 AM PST by Burlem
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To: cajungirl
Google up a vertebrae chart. There are only 12 T vertebrae. T9 is middle back. So much other talk of falling on her tail or osteoporosis or bulimia...it's nonsensical. She was a healthy 23 year old at the time of the incident. Up to the time of the court ordered starvation, Terri had a healthy heart.

Michael Schiavo caused all of this, In my arrogant opinion!

160 posted on 03/27/2005 9:53:31 AM PST by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but recently have come to my senses.)
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To: Fenris6

Terri does not have a lawyer, the lawyer is her parents.


161 posted on 03/27/2005 9:54:35 AM PST by Burlem
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To: Beeline40@aol.com
"No one has said it was bliss full at all."

I have an Easter dinner to cook (and give thanks to the Almighty that we are blessed with the ability to eat it), so I can't address all of this--but this statement is patently false. Felos said that in an interview. I'll reserve my opinion of those people who agree with that ghoul for now. It's Easter.

162 posted on 03/27/2005 9:55:55 AM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: gesully

bttt


163 posted on 03/27/2005 9:56:08 AM PST by lonestar (Me, too!--Weinie)
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To: Beeline40@aol.com
1. did your uncle express that he wanted to go?
2. was your family in complete unanimity if he did not express himself?
3. if dr k. had been available would you have called him?

I have no problem with any of the three. Imy wife and I have been in the health care field for 20 years and have dealt with many chronic and dying patients. I have seen ventilators removed and overdoses of Morphine. I have never seen g-tubes pulled( i put them in) to starve someone- perhaps this is common in some states not others. I would rather have dr k. do it quickly than drag it out over 2 weeks.
However in the absence of 1 and 2 (which is in the TS) case I think we are going down a slippery slope . Obviously we can save SS and Medicare by euthanizing GOMERS , but I'm not there yet and I trust MS as much as scott peterson.
Can you imagine what SP's decision would be if Laci were in a debilitated state?
164 posted on 03/27/2005 9:57:07 AM PST by avile
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To: MizSterious

Happy Easter to you and yours.


165 posted on 03/27/2005 9:58:32 AM PST by Beeline40@aol.com (What is an Esthetician...?)
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To: Burlem
even so, why hospice?

That question's being asked all the time. To qualify for Medicare for a hospice stay, the patient's doctor is supposed to certify less than 6 months' life expectancy. (I guess it can be renewed should the patient not die.)

Two freepers posted stories yesterday involving family members in Florida hospices, though, who died far sooner than expected once admitted.

166 posted on 03/27/2005 9:59:57 AM PST by maryz
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To: texasbluebell
(Cheshire writes) “To enter the room of Terri Schiavo is nothing like entering the room of a patient who is comatose or brain-dead or in some neurological sense no longer there. As I looked at Terri, and she gazed directly back at me, I asked myself whether, if I were her attending physician, I could in good conscience withdraw her feeding and hydration. No, I could not. I could not withdraw life support if I were asked. I could not withhold life-sustaining nutrition and hydration from this beautiful lady whose face brightens in the presence of others.”

Why, oh why is this not allowed to be taken into consideration?
167 posted on 03/27/2005 10:00:23 AM PST by Sweet_Sunflower29 (No Christian child should be left behind in government schools.)
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To: BIGLOOK

obesity is also a relative preventaitve for osteoporosis


168 posted on 03/27/2005 10:03:03 AM PST by avile
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To: Sweet_Sunflower29

Simply because the judge refuses to allow any info entered which does not agree with where this case was headed all along.

I think they've been using this to set precedents to further "mercy-killing" in Florida -- it can't be euthanasia, as that is supposed to be with the consent of the patient.


169 posted on 03/27/2005 10:03:26 AM PST by texasbluebell
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To: Collier

From this link: http://www.miami.edu/ethics2/schiavo/timeline.htm

July 29, 1993:
Schindlers attempt to remove Michael Schiavo as Terri Schiavo’s guardian; the court later dismisses the suit.


170 posted on 03/27/2005 10:04:28 AM PST by iowamomforfreedom (Help stop government-sponsored murder! Save Terri http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: harpo11

I do not believe the president can get involved. He did what he legally could. To admonish him and for that matter Jeb Bush is unfair.
I believe with all my heart that Michael is at the center of Terris condition, I think he, and his creepy lawyer are guilty of actions or ignoring truth as in the case of Feos, who, by the way is an euthanasia advocate.
Our constitution has the 10th ammendment which is of course states rights. There are thousands of Terri's if the president and the governor set precedeent by getting more involved they would have to do the same for all.

Have you all seen Terri's web site?
http://www.terrisfight.org


171 posted on 03/27/2005 10:05:27 AM PST by Burlem
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To: BIGLOOK
It's a good bet that those numerous reports from friends and family of Terri that she was thinking of divorcing him were true, and that he was going a little nuts not having the control over that thought of hers. His personality was not suited too well for being left by a woman!

I said this before on FR and a FReeper jumped on me for it, but I don't care --- with my 58 years of observation, I can look in his face and see the guilt and dread of a guy who knows what he did, and will always know that a great many people are looking at him like they'd look at O.J. He's not stupid, he knows he is disdained.

He better get an alias or two after Terri dies.

172 posted on 03/27/2005 10:05:44 AM PST by beyond the sea (Colonial Script........... or nationalize The Federal Bank..)
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To: BIGLOOK
also bulimia and anorexia are not the same thing.
a bulimic can become anorexic, but often despite eating less and vomiting they don't lose weight. I donot think she was anorexic at the time of her injury
173 posted on 03/27/2005 10:06:11 AM PST by avile
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To: maryz
To qualify for Medicare for a hospice stay, the patient's doctor is supposed to certify less than 6 months' life expectancy.

Interestingly, someone posted a link somewhere recently to the original admission form to get Terri into that hospice. There was not even a doctor's signature on it to order the admission. Very strange.

174 posted on 03/27/2005 10:06:28 AM PST by texasbluebell
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To: avile
#1 No, it was not written down in a DNR or anything like that.

#2 No, not everyone agreed, but ultimately it was my aunt HIS SPOUSE, that made the final decision and most of us, nieces, nephews, children, agreed with her. They had 9 children and 20 grandchildren, of which some of them I would say approximately 8 or 9 did not agree with her.

#3 No, I dont believe my aunt would have gone to him at all. If there was no option for her, she would have accepted it.

This has absolutely nothing to do with Scott Peterson. To use him as an example, just is not on par with this case. By the way, in that case, the prosecution team was lucky to get a conviction in the first place. Dont get me wrong, I beleive with all my heart that he was responsible for her death. It is just the prosecution had very little evidence to convict and because Peterson was not a media darling, contributed to his conviction.

175 posted on 03/27/2005 10:09:16 AM PST by Beeline40@aol.com (What is an Esthetician...?)
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To: Beeline40@aol.com

LOL

You don't trust anyone that wants Terri to live.


176 posted on 03/27/2005 10:14:35 AM PST by Jrabbit
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To: beyond the sea

Funny, I dont see that at all. I see a man who is under a great deal of stress not guilt.


177 posted on 03/27/2005 10:15:38 AM PST by Beeline40@aol.com (What is an Esthetician...?)
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To: gesully

placemarker


178 posted on 03/27/2005 10:15:46 AM PST by Boiler Plate
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To: Beeline40@aol.com
"This has absolutely nothing to do with Scott Peterson."

I disagree. I think what has made this story so compelling is the actions and behavior of MS- who is a HINO. If her "husband" struck the public as dudly-do right , the story would not hit the radar.(Yes some people might protest, but they would be the few that would still oppose someones wishes even if there was an explicit living will)
179 posted on 03/27/2005 10:15:48 AM PST by avile
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To: avile

She was 23 years old at the time of the incident. Bulimia or self induced vomiting on a regular basis could easily be determined by her dentist. The bulimia argument is hearsay. Vomiting could be due to many causes, morning sickness and even stress and mental anguish.


180 posted on 03/27/2005 10:16:37 AM PST by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but recently have come to my senses.)
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To: Jrabbit

If you want to put it that way....fine. Like I said both sides have ginned up there side a bit dont you think? I am relying on the same sources you are and I have found a bit of BS on both sides, that is all I am saying. If you want to make more of it, so be it. I have been called and accused of worse regarding this case. Go for it.


181 posted on 03/27/2005 10:17:50 AM PST by Beeline40@aol.com (What is an Esthetician...?)
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To: iowamomforfreedom

Thanks for the link.

I bookmarked it for later read.


182 posted on 03/27/2005 10:17:53 AM PST by Collier
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To: Beeline40@aol.com
Funny, I dont see that at all. I see a man who is under a great deal of stress not guilt.

Do you have those eyes opened? ;-)

183 posted on 03/27/2005 10:20:35 AM PST by beyond the sea (Colonial Script........... or nationalize The Federal Bank..)
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To: avile

What has he done to make him like Peterson? Oh, the accusation that he tried to murder her? Spare me the documentation or lack therof I have read it all.


184 posted on 03/27/2005 10:22:52 AM PST by Beeline40@aol.com (What is an Esthetician...?)
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To: beyond the sea

Sure do and you? Look so far this thread has been very dignified lets keep it that way. I am not accusing you of being otherwise, you have been very kind, I just hope this does not disinigrate into name calling like the other threads. :-)


185 posted on 03/27/2005 10:24:35 AM PST by Beeline40@aol.com (What is an Esthetician...?)
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To: Beeline40@aol.com

his philandering, having children out of wedlock, lack of therapy. these are not hearsay -like insulin etc
does this sound like a devoted husband.
also if he deserved to sue doctors for not diagnosing her alleged bulimia- isn't he at least partially at fault?


186 posted on 03/27/2005 10:26:27 AM PST by avile
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To: avile

So what? I may not approve, but that does not make him a murderer. Insulin? That is nothing but rumor and innuendo. Lack of therapy? From what I have read in the record, not only did he aggresively persue therapy, but according to her care givers, he was annoyingly so. As far as the bulimia, she and she alone is responsible for it. If he is to blame for anything it is the fact that once her parents went public, he should have fought harder in the PR war.


187 posted on 03/27/2005 10:31:06 AM PST by Beeline40@aol.com (What is an Esthetician...?)
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To: Beeline40@aol.com
Sure do and you? Look so far this thread has been very dignified lets keep it that way.

No need for paranoia. Did you not see my winking face symbol at the end of my remark?

Lighten up, it's Easter.

188 posted on 03/27/2005 10:35:41 AM PST by beyond the sea (Colonial Script........... or nationalize The Federal Bank..)
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To: Beeline40@aol.com

i did not call him a murderer. but his actions make him quite suspect in determining what TS would have wanted.

i mentioned insulin to distinguish objective fact from hearsay


189 posted on 03/27/2005 10:37:34 AM PST by avile
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To: beyond the sea

Believe me Sea, I am not being paranoid, but anyway yes, I did back at ya. Say, your name, is that referring to Bobby Darin? Just askin.


190 posted on 03/27/2005 10:37:42 AM PST by Beeline40@aol.com (What is an Esthetician...?)
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To: Beeline40@aol.com

I don't see any grey....Michael et al wants her dead, her family wants her to live.

I choose life.


191 posted on 03/27/2005 10:39:41 AM PST by Jrabbit
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To: Jrabbit

Oddly enough so do I. Life, I am afraid is always gray in most situations and I see this as one of those times. They dont want her dead, If this was a case that she would someday jump up and say hello, This would not be happening. But, sadly this is not going to happen.


192 posted on 03/27/2005 10:47:03 AM PST by Beeline40@aol.com (What is an Esthetician...?)
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To: gesully
I think that whole injustice system needs an overhaul from the top down. Here is a list of what has happened to make my point
•A Supreme court that makes it legal to commit sodomy and tells teenagers that is alright to commit heinous crimes and know that they will not get the needle or whatever system that a state uses to execute a person for these crimes.
•When known child molesters get the proverbial slap on the wrist, a major murderer (O.J Simpson) gets a “not guilty” verdict from an all black jury.
•A child is kidnapped by the Federal Government to send back to a country who‘ leader is a tyrant .
•When an Attorney General of the United States asks the Army to provide tanks and other armored vehicles to mow down a religious organization on trumped up charges of child abuse and having so-called assault weapons.
•To support a man who is legally slowly killing his wife and being aided and abetted by the legal system.

It is high time that we the people get our acts together and put a stop to this male bovine excrement.
193 posted on 03/27/2005 10:58:51 AM PST by stan_25 (If you canít run with the big dogs, stay on the porch)
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To: gesully
I have been thinking of what motive might Michael Schiavo have for not letting Terri's parents assume her care. It had to be money I kept telling myself, but now it becomes chillingly clear. He can't have her recover and expose what he did.

Simpler than that: Michael, Felos, and King George all know that if Michael loses guardianship, a new guardian would be required to audit records that show a clear and unmistakble conspiracy to murder a concious and aware woman.

194 posted on 03/27/2005 11:01:35 AM PST by supercat ("Though her life has been sold for corrupt men's gold, she refuses to give up the ghost.")
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To: Beeline40@aol.com
So what? I may not approve, but that does not make him a murderer. Insulin? That is nothing but rumor and innuendo. Lack of therapy? From what I have read in the record, not only did he aggresively persue therapy, but according to her care givers, he was annoyingly so. As far as the bulimia, she and she alone is responsible for it. If he is to blame for anything it is the fact that once her parents went public, he should have fought harder in the PR war.

Prior to the "malpractice" trial, Michael wanted to appear for the jury to be a devoted husband. As soon as he won the malpractice judgement, Michael ceased to be a devoted husband.

Do you have any evidence that the benificent behaviors you are attributing to Michael in fact continued after 1993?

195 posted on 03/27/2005 11:03:46 AM PST by supercat ("Though her life has been sold for corrupt men's gold, she refuses to give up the ghost.")
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To: supercat

What are you talking about? You and others here are the ones taking accusations and other vile things as face value. There is no, zero evidence that this man has done anything wrong. I have read enough regarding this case to stand by my claim.


196 posted on 03/27/2005 11:09:56 AM PST by Beeline40@aol.com (What is an Esthetician...?)
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To: Beeline40@aol.com

Her parents love her just as she is. Just as I would still love my children if, God forbid, they became brain damaged. Her parents have NEVER said they expect her to be perfect.

I would never starve a loved one to death....including a dog or cat.


197 posted on 03/27/2005 11:10:27 AM PST by Jrabbit
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To: gesully
$5,000-a-month nursing costs at a hospice in Pinellas Park

Felos was a board member of that hospice shortly before Terri entered it, before he 'stepped down'. Usually people own part of something they become a board member of. It would be safe to say, and someone could check this out, if he does own part of the hospice, then what part of that $5,000 does he get? Multiply that for every bed they fill in that hospice. I'd be willing to bet that we got a good old conflict of interest going on here.

198 posted on 03/27/2005 11:18:56 AM PST by Slyfox
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To: Beeline40@aol.com
What are you talking about? You and others here are the ones taking accusations and other vile things as face value. There is no, zero evidence that this man has done anything wrong. I have read enough regarding this case to stand by my claim.

Why do you suppose Michael refuses to have Terri examined using any of the recognized current methods of diagnosis?

A PVS diagnosis by a doctor who is predisposed to give one is worthless. There are protocols by which a doctor who is predisposed to find a patient cognitive may be able to prove absolutely that the patient is cognitive if they are, but would be unable to tender such proof if the patient was in fact PVS [i.e. the test would filter the subject's actions from the doctor's wishful thinking]. Why has Greer insisted on a "majority rules" method of diagnosis rather than using some honest protocol to ascertain whether the findings of the non-PVS doctors were truthful?

If five cops conduct a drug raid, and two of them find drugs and three don't, does the fact that more cops didn't find drugs than did mean there were no drugs present?

199 posted on 03/27/2005 11:27:02 AM PST by supercat ("Though her life has been sold for corrupt men's gold, she refuses to give up the ghost.")
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To: Beeline40@aol.com
There is no, zero evidence that this man has done anything wrong.

You're flat wrong. There's sworn affidavits by attending nurses -- that's direct eyewitness testimony; there's circumstantial evidence, i.e., the testimony that he was angry with Terri, the appearance of bruises, coupled with the fact that he had the opportunity the night the accident occurred.

You may not be convinced by that evidence, but you're wrong not to acknowledge that it IS evidence.

200 posted on 03/27/2005 12:21:26 PM PST by WL-law
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