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Selective Restraint: Liberals cheered when Janet Reno defied the courts to seize Elian Gonzalez.
Wall Street Journal ^
| 03/28/2005
| John Fund
Posted on 03/28/2005 3:25:19 AM PST by Hawk44
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To: Diogenesis
So, why, exactly are you praising Reno again? You guys are so wacked out on this Terri case that you're grasping at straws. Two weeks ago, if someone praised Janet Reno for having more cajones than Jeb Bush, this place would have gone nuts.
Seriously, you guys are choking on your own hyperbole. We should not celebrate people like Janet Reno, regardless of the circumstances. I shouldn't have to remind you of that.
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posted on
03/28/2005 4:30:10 AM PST
by
Steel Wolf
(Smokey, this is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules. Mark it zero, Dude.)
To: poobear
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posted on
03/28/2005 4:31:08 AM PST
by
Diogenesis
(Si vis pacem, para bellum)
To: Hawk44
Liberals have a spine, Republicans don't. Liberals have the courage of their convictions by and large. Republicans don't.
The Bush's are cowards on this right along with Congress and the Florida politicos.
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posted on
03/28/2005 4:33:20 AM PST
by
Havoc
(Reagan was right and so was McKinley. Down with free trade. Hang the traitors high)
To: Steel Wolf
Praising? You better go back and read what was posted.
She did have BALLS. She grabbed Elian and gave him wrongly to a Dictator.
She did have BALLS. She burnt alive a group a WACO including children.
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posted on
03/28/2005 4:34:16 AM PST
by
Diogenesis
(Si vis pacem, para bellum)
To: Hawk44
I don't know 'bout a different toon. There and then they had a chance to send an army and hold a gun on a little boy to send him back to a communist paradise.
In Terri's case, it would serve only to save an innocent life.
Seems to me they're playing the same old toon.
To: Diogenesis
Is that the big Republican tent burning? The split in the party over this and other issues is gonna as you say "burn down the house". IMO the pubbies are best when being in the minority.
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posted on
03/28/2005 4:39:21 AM PST
by
Burf
To: Diogenesis
Read your own words, D.
Reno had more cajones than Jeb can muster.
Jeb is toast.
You started off this article by praising Janet Reno, and predicting doom and gloom for Jeb. Neither one was warranted. It certainly doesn't sound like you're coming down to hard on Reno, there. But hey, if I'm mistaken, and you're in fact taking a subtle jab at Janet for being balls, then my bad.
In our culture, having 'balls' is generally implied to mean that one is brave, which is generally assumed to be a good thing. Not being able to muster cajones would likewise cause the reader to infer that the subject is not brave, and in fact inferior to one with said cajones. This might be the source of our miscommunication.
Jeb, at any rate, is neither lacking in cajones nor toast.
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posted on
03/28/2005 4:41:38 AM PST
by
Steel Wolf
(Smokey, this is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules. Mark it zero, Dude.)
To: Steel Wolf
This is a bit nuanced. We need Senator Kerry, methinks.
I thought 'cajones' meant having "audacity" and not being "brave". Evil has audacity. Just look to Judge Greer.
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posted on
03/28/2005 4:44:27 AM PST
by
Diogenesis
(Si vis pacem, para bellum)
To: KateatRFM
Cut the hyperbole.
First, no one is "begging" anyone, except for her family.
Second, no one is being "kidnapped."
That action would be "Saving a life," not a crime, in the exact same way that the police save you from a hostage situation. - It's just that in this case it has become apparent that the judiciary is clearly out of control.
Tone down your irritating verbiage if you want to be taken seriously here.
Third, the government already has that authority, and always had.
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posted on
03/28/2005 4:45:11 AM PST
by
bill1952
("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
To: Hawk44
Liberals are now singing a different tune. Nah, same tune .... left and right have ironically (but predictably) just changed parts.
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posted on
03/28/2005 4:50:00 AM PST
by
iconoclast
(Conservative, not partisan.)
To: All
Let Terri's fight to live be a testament to all of those that want her dead. God will deem when Terri comes to him not Man. It is amazing how a woman that wants to die clings so hard to live. It is also amazing for a woman that has been dead for 15 years still has not grasp this concept. I pray for every minute that Terri lives that the conscience of those that want her dead pricks with pain of discomfort.
Matthew 25:44-45
44 Then they also [in their turn] will answer, Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?
45 And He will reply to them, Solemnly I declare to you, in so far as you failed to do it for the least [in the estimation of men] of these, you failed to do it for Me.
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posted on
03/28/2005 4:50:39 AM PST
by
Two-Bits
(May You Never be looked on with Pity from your love ones but only with love and compassion!)
To: MisterRepublican
"If Terri had been a French/Arab/black/Hispanic/Native American/Eskimo/Canadian, Jewish/Muslim/Buddhist/Hindu/Scientologist/Taoist/Sikh, lesbian/bisexual/trans-gendered, vegetarian, atheist/pantheist, antiwar, environmentalist, socialist/communist, convicted felon, recovering addict/alcoholic, pro-Choice, liberal, Democrat, attorney/author/activist/professor/journalist/news-anchor/poet/actor/producer/director/publisher/artist with breast cancer; she'd be well-fed and hydrated, doing a guest appearance on Oprah. And Michael Schiavo would be sitting in a jail cell awaiting attempted murder charge."
You forgot to add:
If Terri had been a lab animal under experimentation, PETA would have rescued her.
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posted on
03/28/2005 4:55:30 AM PST
by
4Liberty
(Capitalism is perfectly competitive socialism.)
To: Diogenesis
How many of those listed do you suppose are Democrats?
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posted on
03/28/2005 4:59:24 AM PST
by
iconoclast
(Conservative, not partisan.)
To: iconoclast
Does it matter what the party affiliation is in murder conspiracy?
On the other hand, the MSM absolutely ignores this, so there by implication is your answer.
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posted on
03/28/2005 5:05:05 AM PST
by
Diogenesis
(Si vis pacem, para bellum)
To: Hawk44
It angers me more that the Bush babies were so affected by the E.G. saga that neither was willing to exercise the
Constitutional powers of their Executive Office to even attemt "err in favor of life." Unless the Court is that
oligarchy of Despots Jefferson saw -- and the Executive and Legislative but minion of the despotic rule Then the
Bush Brother had every Constitutional right to act beyond
their talk. IT appears the three part system of "co-extensive powers" instituted to provide necessary checks and balances against such despotic rule seems that system
is irretrievably broken.As is the Rule of Law.
To: Diogenesis
Didn't Janet Reno have a court order to storm the house and capture Elian Gonzales? Of course, that court order, which was probably shopped to find a judge willing to sign it, does not justify the Attorney General's actions. Nonetheless, it did give her the cover of established law. Jeb Bush did not have such a cover, at least in the judicial supremacy regime we have on both Federal and state levels.
To: Wallace T.
Most Americans previously THOUGHT that the US Congress' UNANIMOUS decree and subpoena
might have trumped a local probate despot murderer practicing judicide and torture.
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posted on
03/28/2005 5:22:10 AM PST
by
Diogenesis
(Si vis pacem, para bellum)
To: Diogenesis
Does it matter what the party affiliation is in murder conspiracy? I think it does in an environment in which Democrats are usually depicted as evil incarnate and Republicans as saints in waiting.
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posted on
03/28/2005 5:26:31 AM PST
by
iconoclast
(Conservative, not partisan.)
To: Burf
IMO the pubbies are best when being in the minority.
In other words when they are irrelavant./sarcasm
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posted on
03/28/2005 5:28:14 AM PST
by
Kozak
(Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
To: Diogenesis
Judge Greer stood firm against the subpoena, confident that his black-robed brothers and sisters, clear up to a minimum of five members of the Supreme Court, would back up his defiance. He was right. He also bet that the legislative and executive branches would blink before the judiciary. Two for two for the probate court magistrate.
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