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Family Advisor: Schiavo Reacted to Friends Visit (Sunday Night!)
Miami Herald ^ | 3/28/05

Posted on 03/28/2005 7:53:18 AM PST by gopwinsin04

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To: Aquinasfan

Psst. I think "toeing" the line works a little better, unless you have someone on the other end of the line wearing water skis.


101 posted on 03/28/2005 10:20:08 AM PST by T'wit (Liberals had better stop preaching about quality of life and start worrying about quality of death)
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To: gopwinsin04
What does this say for the future of our nation?

that our Constitution, thereby our freedoms, indeed our very lives, are hanging by a thread.

Everyone should remember the Bible warning ""Beware of the scribes, who like to go about in long robes . . . " (Matt 12:38)" and everyone should read - and STUDY _ the new book: "Men in Black" - "Men In Black: How the Supreme Court Is Destroying America" by Mark Levin

we must take our heads out of the sand before we get them chopped off

102 posted on 03/28/2005 10:41:50 AM PST by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: SweetCaroline
For the Church of Scientology, it was Shaw, Clearwater lawyer Wally Pope and Washington D.C.-based lawyer Monique Yingling

Yeah, and the Liberty for the Captives site points out Pope's involvement with Greer and Felos.

Looks like their latest little initiative is generating rather more publicity than they would like. Picking up rocks is like that.

104 posted on 03/28/2005 11:08:12 AM PST by Regulator
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To: Aquinasfan
Rush is towing this line today. "I'm a rule of law guy." I think this is what the Bible calls a "false god."

Laws really exist for a two reasons.
1. To protect property and persons from those who are unscrupulous.
2. To preserve the life of the innocent, and to punish those who do not.

As Jesus said "Love God with all your heart. Love your neighbor as yourself."
When man's law becomes immoral, it is no longer law by tyranny.
105 posted on 03/28/2005 11:10:09 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Regulator
Yeah, and the Liberty for the Captives site points out Pope's involvement with Greer and Felos. ....I'd like to read about that, do you have the url?
106 posted on 03/28/2005 11:18:18 AM PST by SweetCaroline (I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me...Philippians 4:13)
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To: brigette

I appreciate what you are doing. Judge Greer does need to be impeached. The judiciary must understand that there are checks on their power as well.


107 posted on 03/28/2005 11:22:54 AM PST by Sunsong
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To: SweetCaroline
It's from the same site you linked to: Scientology and the Clearwater Bar Association

There's also a discussion on the "don't eat" order which is quite good. Go to the home page and click on "Death Order Doublespeak". I had already thought this myself and then came on the explanation which shows the timeline and how Greer's wording changed to end up with the judicial edict to starve - whether naturally or "artificially".

108 posted on 03/28/2005 11:57:47 AM PST by Regulator
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To: maine-iac7

Will do. Can you begin a thread asking everyone to FREEP Gonzalez???? It would appear the reservations regarding Gonzalez were correct!


109 posted on 03/28/2005 1:08:04 PM PST by TAdams8591 (Evil succeeds when good men don't do enough!!!!!!)
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To: maine-iac7

Great book.


110 posted on 03/28/2005 2:06:57 PM PST by gopwinsin04
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I agree with you. Ignorance is no excuse. But a lot of people still take what the MSM says as gospel and therein lies the problem.


111 posted on 03/28/2005 3:40:34 PM PST by beckysueb (God bless America and President Bush.)
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To: gopwinsin04

From Spiritdaily.com

Investigative Group To Expose Schiavo’s Lawyer’s “Voices”

Will Present Evidence Of Perjury And Conflict of Interest

by Trimelda C. McDaniels

Shadow Road Consultations and Investigations

George Felos is not just a lawyer for Michael Schiavo in the Terri Schiavo “right to die” case. He heads a religious organization that believes death by dehydration and starvation is a religious solution for the severely disabled. Felos knows this because he hears voices that tell him when someone wants to die this way and this is his gift as an agent of God.

This information comes from Shadow Rose, a small non-profit investigative group incorporated in Idaho that focuses on domestic violence and sexual abuse. The head of the organization, Trimelda C. McDaniels, found this information in Mr. Felos’ book, “Litigation As Spiritual Practice," (Blue Dolphin Publishing –2002) and feels that his role as a lawyer in the Schiavo case is based upon his religious beliefs that the removal of feeding tubes from the disabled are a form of profound, religious expression.

“Felos clearly states that he hears voices in his head that tell him when someone wants to die this way,” Mc Daniels said. “ He is adamant about being used by God to help people out of their bodies into the next world by removal of feeding tubes and even ‘willing’ them to die with his mind.”

She quotes from Mr. Felos’ own words in “Litigation As Spiritual Practice:”

“As Mrs. Browning lay motionless before my gaze, I suddenly heard a loud, deep moan, scream, and wondered if the nursing home personnel heard it and would respond to the unfortunate resident In the next moment, as this cry of pain and torment continued, I realized it was Mrs. Browning. I felt the mid-section of my body open and noticed a strange quality to the light in the room. I sensed her soul in agony. As she screamed I heard her say, in confusion, ‘Why am I still here … why am I here?’ My soul touched hers and in some way, I communicated that she was still locked in her body. I promised I would do everything in my power to gain the release her soul cried for. With that the screaming immediately stopped. I felt like I was back in my head again, the room resumed its normal appearance, and Mrs. Browning, as she had throughout this experience, lay silent. “I knew without a doubt what had transpired was real and dispelled the thought as intellect’s attempt to assert its own version of reality.” (73)

“I felt like an empty vessel, a vehicle through which Spirit does its own work. I felt deep gratitude for being endowed with the abilities that allow this work to be done through me. In a sense, I lost, at least for that moment, a personal agenda. I became an agent and God was the principal. All I needed to do was permit the work to come through me.”

The argument that Terri Schiavo stated “she wouldn’t want to live this way,” is based upon Felos’ own religious beliefs, not Mrs. Schiavo’s, ” Ms. McDaniels said. “Mr. Felos feels that God created him to bring death to the sick and disabled as a way of helping them reincarnate on a higher level. He says he is an "agent" of God who champions death,’ and I believe that Michael Schiavo shares these same views.”

“When did Terri join Mr. Felos’ religion? The last I heard she was a practicing Roman Catholic, “ said McDaniels

“If Mr. Felos wants to believe and even teach this as the ordained minister that he is in his church, he certainly has the right to do so,” McDaniels said. “I am a minister myself and I champion the rights of religious freedom. I am sure many other people believe that they have God like powers and have voices that guide them. They might even believe that death by starvation is an act of holiness. But, this belief becomes a problem when this person represents himself as speaking for Terri Schiavo. Is that really what she said, or is this one of Mr. Felos’ ‘voices’? How can you trust this kind of bias?” she asked.

It also doesn’t help that Mr. Felos is on the board of the hospital that supports the hospice where Terri Schivao is being held, McDaniels said. “Just those two facts alone-his religious teachings and practices concerning feeding tubes and his former relationship with the hospice should be enough to totally disregard anything he or his client, Michael Schiavo have to say about ‘what Terri wanted.’”

Ms. McDaniels stated that her organization intends to formally pursue criminal charges against both Mr. Schiavo and Mr. Felos, regardless of the outcome in the fight to save Terri Schiavo’s life.

““There was enough evidence of abuse for the Department of Children and Family Services in Florida to step in and file motions to have Terri Schiavo’s case investigated,” McDaniels said.

“They have tried to examine her abuse before and after Mrs. Schiavo’s hospitalization. Judge Greer, the judicial power in this matter has blocked them every time. He has also tried to stop the Justice Department and the United States Congress from being able to examine the bone scans and other evidence of abuse. It is time for the public to ask why he’s stonewalling and to separate Felos and Mr. Schiavo from their civil covering that Judge Greer has afforded them up to this point.”

“We will do everything we can to see that justice is done. The only way to do that is to re-examine Mrs. Schiavo in person or after death for signs of physical abuse. McDaniels said. “This is a case of domestic violence and abuse, not a right to die. Mr. Felos’ “voices” need to be examined in the clear light of day. Therefore, we intend to offer Mr. Felos’ book as evidence for disbarment and arrest on charges of perjury and other legal matters to The Congress of the United States this coming week.”





112 posted on 03/28/2005 3:42:21 PM PST by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: tomahawk
TOMAHAWK WROTE: "Jesse Jackson has gone on record as saying this is wrong."

True, but WHERE IS HE????? Jesse should BE there!!!!!

Jesse should be DEMANDING that TERRI HAS A "RIGHT TO CHOOSE"---TO DRINK and EAT if SHE wants to!!!

If water is brought UP TO Terri's lips---and TERRI CHOOSES to drink---she has a "RIGHT TO CHOOSE" TO DRINK or EAT!!!!!

113 posted on 03/28/2005 10:27:05 PM PST by Concerned (My Motto: It's NEVER wrong to do what's RIGHT!!!)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

How sick!


114 posted on 03/29/2005 3:43:56 AM PST by beckysueb (God bless America and President Bush.)
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