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Schiavo’s father makes emotional appeal
Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | 3/28/05 | Sandy Bauers

Posted on 03/28/2005 12:17:43 PM PST by LibWhacker

PINELLAS PARK, FL -- Bob Schindler, the father of severely brain-damaged Terri Schiavo, said his daugher is "begging for help," and so is her family.

Now in her 11th day without food or water after her feeding tube was removed under court order on March 18, Schiavo is "failing," he said, but nevertheless "fighting like hell to live."

Although "emaciated," Schiavo is "still communicating," Schindler said, "... And she's responding to me."

Schindler spoke to reporters shortly before 1 p.m. outside the Woodside Hospice, where Schiavo is being cared for.

Several days ago, a family spokesman reported that Terri's mother, Mary Schindler, was so upset at her daughter's appearance that she because physically ill at the bedside. Schiavo's brother, Bobby Schindler, said that her condition was so alarming he was suggesting his parents not go see her.

Bob Schindler said today that he was "scared to death to go in to see her, for fear of what I'd see." But, he said, "she has amazing endurance, what she's been through for this past week. And it's incredible to see how she's acting."

David Gibbs, the family lawyer, had said earlier that Schiavo was past the point that she could have her feeding tube reinserted, but the family disputed it.

Gibbs also said she was receiving morphine. Schindler said he had "a grave concern that they'll expedite the process to kill her with an overdose of morphine."

Legal options seem to have run out for the Schindlers. But Schindler called again upon government leaders and the courts to intervene.

"I plead again that the powers that be don't give up on her," he said. "She has to be saved. She has to be saved. And it can be done. And we plead for her."


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1 posted on 03/28/2005 12:17:44 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

I really feel sorry for the old guy. He is close to the edge.


2 posted on 03/28/2005 12:20:15 PM PST by verity (A mindset is a terrible thing to waste.)
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To: verity

Yes, he is.


3 posted on 03/28/2005 12:21:09 PM PST by Clara Lou (I'm not pro-death, I'm anti-hysteria.)
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To: LibWhacker



It's beyond inhumane what is being done to that famiy and our Country by 3 miserable people.


4 posted on 03/28/2005 12:21:11 PM PST by SouthernFreebird
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To: LibWhacker



It's beyond inhumane what is being done to that famiy and our Country by 3 miserable people.


5 posted on 03/28/2005 12:22:33 PM PST by SouthernFreebird
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To: LibWhacker

Could he be more specific? Which actions is he requesting, specifically?


6 posted on 03/28/2005 12:23:11 PM PST by mountaineer
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To: SouthernFreebird
Check the threads. It's not just three miserable people. Everyone who looked away is complicit in this.

And now those same people are going to start painting Bob and Mary Schindler as crackpots.

How swell. What a bunch of sweethearts.
7 posted on 03/28/2005 12:25:01 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Ghoul Power!)
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To: mountaineer
Yes, I feel very deeply for him, his wife and family. They have/are suffering.

That being said...what exact action would he like to be taken?

8 posted on 03/28/2005 12:28:12 PM PST by what's up
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To: LibWhacker
Schindler said he had "a grave concern that they'll expedite the process to kill her with an overdose of morphine."

Nah, they won't do that. Seeing how beautiful and peaceful she is and all. Knowing the way these ghouls have operated so far, I expect they'll "allow her to die" for as long as possible.

9 posted on 03/28/2005 12:28:56 PM PST by workerbee
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To: SouthernFreebird

yes, it is !!!!! GOD HELP US!!!!


10 posted on 03/28/2005 12:29:53 PM PST by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift my eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: LibWhacker

This is the Florida legislature and Gov. worst nightmare come true. They made the law which is allowing the killing of the mentally disabled in Florida.


11 posted on 03/28/2005 12:29:55 PM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON)
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To: LibWhacker

FR does not seem like a very friendly place to The Schindlers. I know there are people here who have a direct line to God and have assured us that He has no problem with this.


12 posted on 03/28/2005 12:32:08 PM PST by yellowdoghunter (Get or stay out of Florida, you may hurt yourself on vacation and then the state will murder you.)
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To: LibWhacker
Michael said Terri was bulimic.

A Bulimic person is mentally ill, therefore they are not of sound mind.

How can Terri's words, "No tubes for me," be binding if she was not of sound mind?

13 posted on 03/28/2005 12:32:08 PM PST by syriacus (Michael said Terri had bulimia, a mental illness. Terri wasn't of "sound mind" to say "no tubes")
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To: LibWhacker

Why is it that in EVERY article written about this case, the LSM ALWAYS refers to Terri as "severely brain-damaged Terri Schiavo"? Even though it's true, doesn't that do a disservice to her and any remaining hope for the nurishment to be restored? continued prayers for Terri and her family.


14 posted on 03/28/2005 12:33:44 PM PST by NCC-1701 (AN ACTIVIST JUDICIARY IS A CULT!!!!! IT MUST BE ERADICATED FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH.)
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To: LibWhacker
"I plead again that the powers that be don't give up on her," he said. "She has to be saved. She has to be saved. And it can be done. And we plead for her."

Lord have mercy.

15 posted on 03/28/2005 12:34:46 PM PST by Saundra Duffy ("Where there's life, there's hope." Theresa Marie SCHINDLER)
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To: LibWhacker
The following is what we've been told by the MSM, Judges, and all others opposed to Terri's Right to Live:

1). She's brain dead.

2).She cannot feel pain.

3). Death by Starvation is painless, euphoric and dignified.

4). Terri has a morphine drip to dull her pain.

Going back to 1, 2 and 3, pain is not an issue.
But, 4 states that the doctors aren't really sure, are they?

Should not Govenor Bush issue a search warrant to investigate whether a violation of ethics by performing cruel and unusual punishment on a human being has occured because plainly Terri is in pain and feels every bit of it?

Or, are the doctors hastening Terri's death?

Perhaps, the hospice is actually running an experiment on her while she is starving?

Are doctors authorized by the Government to run experiments on human beings without their knowledge?

16 posted on 03/28/2005 12:35:40 PM PST by harpo11 ( Terri's our Sister, She Ain't Heavy!)
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To: LibWhacker

I want to see a good ol' fashioned federal raid on that Hospice. Get her out of that hell hole!!!


17 posted on 03/28/2005 12:35:44 PM PST by Saundra Duffy ("Where there's life, there's hope." Theresa Marie SCHINDLER)
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Protesters take part in an Easter mass outside the Woodside Hospice where Terri Schiavo is a patient on Sunday, March 27, 2005 in Pinellas Park, Fla. (AP Photo/Evan Vucci)

Bob Schindler, left, Mary Schindler, center, and Suzanne Vitadamo, right, Terri Schiavo's family, walk to visit Schiavo at the Woodside Hospice on Friday, March 25, 2005 in Pinellas Park, Fla. (AP Photo/Evan Vucci)

Protester Jeff Asmussen, of Silver Bay, Minnesota, is all alone as he keeps a vigil outside the Woodside Hospice, where brain damaged Florida woman Terri Scghiavo is being cared for, in Pinellas Park, Florida, early March 27, 2005. A wrenching dispute over the fate of Schiavo neared its end Sunday as she moved closer to death and her parents gave up their long and bitter legal battle to prolong her life. REUTERS/Bob Jordan

19 posted on 03/28/2005 12:35:57 PM PST by mjtobias (Michael et al. aren't trying to starve Terri because she's dying, but because she isn't. - supercat)
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To: mjtobias
Violence? NO NO NO
What can we do?
Impeach Greer in the state system for the details below, and impeach Whittimore in the federal system for ignoring the law passed by congress.
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20 posted on 03/28/2005 12:37:58 PM PST by BigEdLB (BigEd)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
now those same people are going to start painting Bob and Mary Schindler as crackpots.

I sense that some of the MSM is pulling away, now that they think the Schindlers have lost.

I wish the MSM would investigate Terri's intent at the time she allegedly said "No tubes."

Maybe Terri said, "no tubes."...

  1. to make someone else feel less remorseful about having removed a respirator from a relative
  2. because no one warned her that the words would really be her death warrant.
  3. because she was depressed. (We don't kill depressed people just because they say they are a "burden.")
  4. because she forgot she had the "right to remain silent" and to have a "lawyer present."
  5. because her erratic life with job-hopping Michael was driving her crazy

22 posted on 03/28/2005 12:42:19 PM PST by syriacus (Michael said Terri had bulimia, a mental illness. Terri wasn't of "sound mind" to say "no tubes")
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To: yellowdoghunter

I with you on that yellowdoghunter...some of these people have a hard heart. To bad for them, since it takes a good mind and heart to walk with God...


23 posted on 03/28/2005 12:42:38 PM PST by Edgerunner (Proud to be an infidel.)
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To: LibWhacker
Here's a question that I know has probably been asked on the forum, but when she dies and with all of the questions about the circumstances that brought her to this point, could there be a homicide investigation?

It seems that the local police (perhaps, the sheriff's office specifically) is in cahoots with Michael Schavio's side of the argument. I don't know the laws with regards to the autopsy (and I don't know what the autopsy would reveal), but the autopsy seems like it should be done.

Course, I think that the facts about how Terri came to be in this medical condition are going to die with her. Because, as I have read, there are only 2 ways in which she could have suffered the initial injury:

1. From an existing medical condition; or,
2. Being suffocated (or having the blood cut off)

And, from what I have read, there was no detected or even suspected medical condition that could have induced the injury that Terri suffered, based on her prior medical history. And, barring an undiagnosed medical condition, which is certainly possible, the 2nd option seems possible.

Not to mention that if she would have continued to receive the therapy she was receiving, she would have continued to progress, as she had already been.

But, up until this point, no investigtion, no conclusion, no nothing.

Michael Schavio wants Terri to die, whether by her own wish's or his. Either way, the truth dies with her.

24 posted on 03/28/2005 12:42:44 PM PST by mattdono ("Crush the democrats, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags" -Big Arnie)
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To: LibWhacker

Felos said it is a beautiful thing.

He must live in a bizzaro alternate universe?


25 posted on 03/28/2005 12:43:37 PM PST by OK
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To: Saundra Duffy

Me too. Just don't understand it. If Islamicists take over the judiciary someday and begin stoning people to death out behind the courthouse, will the executive and legislative branches turn a blind eye because they want to avoid a constitutional crisis? Jesus Christ! The gutlessness we're seeing in this case is sickening.


26 posted on 03/28/2005 12:43:55 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: mjtobias

In hoc signo vinces
27 posted on 03/28/2005 12:45:02 PM PST by syriacus (Michael said Terri had bulimia, a mental illness. Terri wasn't of "sound mind" to say "no tubes")
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To: syriacus

If she said it all all, it's entirely possible she was just saying what everyone around her was saying. People do that, especially to avoid arguments involving controversial subjects.

But I don't believe she said it, period. These people are just stone-cold liars.


28 posted on 03/28/2005 12:46:16 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Ghoul Power!)
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To: what's up
"That being said...what exact action would he like to be taken?"

You might begin with prayer for God's little one Terri Schiavo. Then if it's not too much maybe email the Bush brothers and ask them to intervene. In other words, do what you would do if Terri were your little girl.

"And whoever gives to one of these little ones even a cup of cold water because he is a disciple, truly, I say to you, he shall not lose his reward." - (MATHEW 10:42)
"Whoever receives one such child in my name receives me; and whoever receives me, receives not me but him who sent me." (MARK 9:37)
"So it is not the will of my Father who is in heaven that one of these little ones should perish". (Mathew 18:14)

29 posted on 03/28/2005 12:46:36 PM PST by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" - Pope Urban II, 1097 A.D.)
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To: Saundra Duffy
I want to see a good ol' fashioned federal raid on that Hospice. Get her out of that hell hole!!!

Maybe you could get Janet Reno to lead the effort. You liked it so well when she did it for E. Gonzales. Gestapo, I think thats to what they were likened.

30 posted on 03/28/2005 12:47:04 PM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: LibWhacker

They're not the only people in the world who has had a child die. Can't they do anything privately?


31 posted on 03/28/2005 12:47:06 PM PST by Hildy
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To: LibWhacker
nd it's incredible to see how she's acting."

Does anyone know if dehydration could be reducing the spinal fluid in her brain, and actually making her more alert?

She never got a shunt.

32 posted on 03/28/2005 12:47:19 PM PST by syriacus (Michael said Terri had bulimia, a mental illness. Terri wasn't of "sound mind" to say "no tubes")
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To: mjtobias

Yep, but he is worse than Pontius Pilate, in that he signed the law which is allowing Terri to be killed.


33 posted on 03/28/2005 12:47:33 PM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON)
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To: MikeinIraq
The parents have said stop. When will the parents wishes finally be allowed either by the courts or by the public?

A sad ping to the cold hard heart breaking truth.

34 posted on 03/28/2005 12:48:04 PM PST by jpsb
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To: Saundra Duffy
Wondering if other families of patients in that hospice, have considered removing them and placing them in a hospice that will actually follow the doctors orders. To do what's in the best interest of the patient. Not to follow the orders of a husband, by withholding treatment and who has led a well orchestrated plan to murder his wife.
35 posted on 03/28/2005 12:48:05 PM PST by PeanutbutterandJellybean
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To: TheCrusader

You didn't read my comment, obviously. I would like to know the father's thoughts...not yours.


36 posted on 03/28/2005 12:48:11 PM PST by what's up
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To: syriacus

Terri Schiavo Before dehydration

God Bless you Terri in your hour of death

Let everyone who said your beautiful smile was fake be haunted by it for the rest of their days.

37 posted on 03/28/2005 12:48:17 PM PST by mjtobias (Michael et al. aren't trying to starve Terri because she's dying, but because she isn't. - supercat)
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To: LibWhacker

The lesson in all this is not to trust your fate to the legal system, medical system, political system -- and certainly not the media, if one wants a rational outcome. It means a need for greater self-sufficiency and self-reliance, which begins of course, by making better discriminations and decisions.

Generally, it is not a good idea to marry the first and only person one ever dates. And then when the marriage goes bad, it's not a waste of the years put into it, to get out of it, at whatever cost, or it could cost you your life. There are no guarantees of a happy outcome -- no matter what the demagogues promise. We all take our best shot and make the best from what we know.

Let her will to live, inspire us to make the most of our own lives.


38 posted on 03/28/2005 12:49:17 PM PST by MikeHu
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To: syriacus
"In hoc signo vinces"

God bless you, and thank you for reminding me. IN THIS SIGN WE SHALL CONQUER!

39 posted on 03/28/2005 12:50:09 PM PST by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" - Pope Urban II, 1097 A.D.)
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To: TheDon

Indeed. Indeed.


40 posted on 03/28/2005 12:50:10 PM PST by mjtobias (Michael et al. aren't trying to starve Terri because she's dying, but because she isn't. - supercat)
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To: Saundra Duffy
I want to see a good ol' fashioned federal raid on that Hospice. Get her out of that hell hole!!!

That would be illegal.

41 posted on 03/28/2005 12:51:15 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

due process = doom process


42 posted on 03/28/2005 12:52:44 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: EveningStar
The President or the Governor can write an executive order to get Terri into a hospital immediately. It is not breaking any law to do so. This action would not interfere with the judge. And since Greer already flaunted a Congressional subpoena his ruling is highly questionable.

Executive orders are lawful. They've been written by presidents ever since Washington on a number of different issues.

Contacting the president and ask him to write an executive order immediately. If you cannot reach him, then contact your state senators and representatives.

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Governor Bush Phone: #850-488-4441
Governor Bush Fax: #850-487-0801
Vice President Richard Cheney: vice.president@whitehouse.gov

Call DCF NOW! Phone: (850) 487-1111

It's NOT too late.

43 posted on 03/28/2005 12:52:55 PM PST by mjtobias (Michael et al. aren't trying to starve Terri because she's dying, but because she isn't. - supercat)
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...in this case


44 posted on 03/28/2005 12:53:06 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Hildy
"They're not the only people in the world who has had a child die. Can't they do anything privately?"

I can't speak for Terri's parents, but my guess is that they privately abhor people like you.

45 posted on 03/28/2005 12:53:28 PM PST by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" - Pope Urban II, 1097 A.D.)
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To: what's up
"You didn't read my comment, obviously. I would like to know the father's thoughts...not yours."

Then go and ask HIM, if you have the guts.

46 posted on 03/28/2005 12:54:44 PM PST by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" - Pope Urban II, 1097 A.D.)
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To: mjtobias

Post that once more and you'll get a vacation. Thanks.


47 posted on 03/28/2005 12:55:30 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: mjtobias

Michael Schiavo is NOT on his sign? It must be an error.


48 posted on 03/28/2005 1:01:33 PM PST by AngieGOP (I never met a woman who became a stripper because she played with Barbie dolls as a kid.)
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To: TheCrusader
Guts? Why in the world would that take guts?

I had a sincere desire to know exactly what action the father would like to be taken. What's wrong with you?

49 posted on 03/28/2005 1:03:27 PM PST by what's up
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To: mountaineer
I don't know what the poor father wants, but I e-mailed Joe Liberman, my senator. I'm a Rep., but Joe, as demonstrated by the Bush kiss, is a man of compasssion.

Call Joe Lieberman , and ask him to lead a national bipartisan Mercy Coalition. .

860) 549-8463 Voice (800) 225-5605 In CT (860) 549-8478 Fax (860) 522-8443 TTY

Joe, has compassion. Plead to it.

“Never give up! Never give up! NEVER! NEVER! NEVER! “ Whinston Churchill

50 posted on 03/28/2005 1:05:51 PM PST by Kings18-37
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