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THE BIG (UNTOLD) STORY IN MIDEAST [1.5 MIL MOSLEMS CHRISTIAN SINCE 911]
MERI BURLINGAME RENEWED HOPE LIST ^ | 24 FEB 2005 | JOEL C ROSENBERG

Posted on 03/29/2005 5:31:58 AM PST by Quix

More Hope in a dark time

Meri Burlingame Mar 29, 2005

More hope in the midst of the storm---------

Joel C. Rosenberg is the New York Times best-selling author of The Last Jihad (about the demise of Saddam Hussein) and The Last Days (about the demise of Yasser Arafat). His next novel, The Ezekiel Option, comes out in August 2005, from Tyndale. An evangelical Christian from an Orthodox Jewish background, his grandparents escaped from Russia. Joel has served as a senior advisor to Steve Forbes, Rush Limbaugh, former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and former Deputy Prime Minister Natan Sharansky

The Big (Untold) Story in the Mideast

by Joel C. Rosenberg

posted 2/24/05

Despite unprecedented press coverage of Afghanistan, Iraq, and the Middle East since September 11, 2001, one big story is not being told by mainstream media. Scores of Muslims are converting to evangelical Christianity and will be celebrating their first Easter this year, even amidst widespread persecution and the very real threat of death.

Over the past few months I interviewed more than three dozen Arab and Iranian pastors and evangelical Christian missionary leaders in the U.S. and the Middle East. The picture they paint is one of Christianity being dramatically resurrected in the lands where the Bible was written.

One Arab Christian leader tells me that based on his research with churches and ministries throughout the Islamic world, he now believes more than 1.5 million Muslims worldwide have trusted Christ since 9/11. Such numbers are difficult to verify, but the trend is clear.

"More Muslims are becoming followers of Jesus Christ today than at any other time in history," a prominent Arab Christian leader told me recently, on the condition that I not mention his name or organization. "It's not something we talk much about openly, but it is very exciting and very important."

In Afghanistan, for example, there were only 17 known evangelical Christians in the country before al-Qaeda attacked the United States. Today, the number of Afghan Christians is in the thousands and growing quickly.

Church leaders say Afghan Muslims are open to hearing the gospel message like never before. Dozens of baptisms occur every week. People are snatching up Bibles and other Christian books as fast as they can be printed or brought into the country. The Jesus film, a two hour docudrama on the life of Christ based on the Gospel of Luke”was even shown on television in one city before police shut down the entire TV station.

"God is moving so fast in Afghanistan, we're just trying to keep up," one Afghan Christian worker told me, requesting anonymity. "The greatest need now is leadership development. We need to train pastors to care for all these new believers."

In Iraq, mainstream media attention is focused almost exclusively on the violence of the insurgents. But despite numerous church bombings and attacks on Christian leaders, an evangelical revolution is underway in Iraq and interest in Christianity is at an all-time high, say Iraqi pastors and other evangelical leaders who have recently visited the war-torn country.

Over one million Arabic New Testaments, Christian books, and gospel publications for children have been distributed in Iraq by various ministries since the end of major war operations. Bibles are even being printed inside Iraq today. Even still, demand outpaces the supply.

Western Christian organizations are also trying to care for their persecuted brothers and sisters in Iraq, shipping in food, medicine, and other supplies to meet pressing needs. One such group, Samaritan's Purse run by Franklin Graham, son of the Rev. Billy Graham reports that they have "airlifted 16 tons of medical supplies and equipment into Baghdad to refurbish a teaching hospital completed construction of one clinic and supplied medicine for several others, and sponsor[ed] a church that provides food to poor families, Muslims and Christians alike."

As a result of such efforts and many others that for security sake must go unmentioned, thousands upon thousands of Iraqis have already made decisions to become followers of Christ, and many others are coming to Christ every week. What's more, some 162 new Iraqi believers recently began ministry training in an undisclosed section of the country to become pastors and lay leaders.

Similar stories are being reported in countries considered most "closed" to the gospel, from Central Asia to Sudan. In Kazakhstan, for example, there were only three known evangelical Christian believers before the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991. Today there are more than 15,000 Kazakh Christians, and more than 100,000 Christians of all ethnicities.

In Sudan despite a ferocious civil war, genocide and widespread religious persecution, particularly in the Darfur region—literally tens of thousands of Muslims have made decisions to become followers of Jesus Christ just since 2001. A seminary to train new pastors is run in a mountain cave. Hundreds of churches have been planted, and thousands of small group Bible studies are being held in secret throughout the country, though two evangelical leaders asked me not to mention the specific numbers out of concern it could lead to still more persecution.

Other Arab Christian leaders tell me that the immense controversy last spring over The Passion had an intriguing if unintended and counterintuitive effect in the Middle East. Charges by American Jewish groups that the film was anti-Semitic caused enormous interest among Muslims to see the film for themselves. Soon The Passion was being shown in theaters throughout the region, and popping up on tens of thousands of bootlegged DVDs, including in Saudi Arabia and Iran where it is typically illegal to buy or sell Christian materials. While it is difficult to accurately assess the impact of the film, I can report that in Lebanon, some 310 people are known to have made decisions to become followers of Christ after just one showing of The Passion.

A wonderfully inspiring book published last fall by Brother Andrew (of God's Smuggler fame) and Al Janssen of Open Doors International takes those interested in what God is doing to reach Muslims on a powerful and unforgettable journey that reads like the 29th chapter of the Book of Acts. Light Force: A Stirring Account of the Church Caught in the Middle East Crossfire (Revell) is chock full of amazing anecdotes you will never read in the New York Times or the Washington Post.

My wife and I had the privilege of having lunch with the authors in Southern California where we peppered them for more details. What struck us most was Brother Andrew's boldness and incurable confidence in a God who can open doors to reach the most unreachable. Over salads and iced tea, Andrew humbly shared story after story of how he personally shared the gospel with Yasser Arafat, with Islamic Ayatollahs, and with Palestinian terrorists exiled to Lebanon. He also told us his unforgettable experience of preaching the gospel to 400 Hamas leaders in Gaza City, which he relates on pages 182-190 of his book.

"I can't change the situation you face here in Gaza," Andrew told the Hamas leaders. "I can't solve the problems you have with your enemies. But I can offer you the One who is called the Prince of Peace. You cannot have real peace without Jesus. And you cannot experience Him without forgiveness. He offers to forgive us of all our sins. But we cannot receive that forgiveness if we don't ask for it. The Bible calls this repentance and confession of sin. If you want it, then Jesus forgives. He forgave me and made me a new person. Now I'm not afraid to die because my sins are forgiven and I have everlasting life."

Hearing the story, I had to confess to Brother Andrew that it had never dawned on me to pray for much less preach the gospel to Hamas leaders. But isn't that what Jesus tells us to do, to love our enemies? What made the story all the more remarkable was that rather than lynching Andrew for trying to convert them to Christ, the Hamas leaders invited him to speak to other Muslims.

"Andrew, I believe you know that I teach at the Islamic University," said one. "To my knowledge, we have never had any lectures about Christianity. While you were talking, I was thinking that it would be helpful for our students to know about real Christianity. Would you consider coming to the university and giving a lecture about the differences between Christianity and Islam?"

Even the Palestinian Christian leaders who accompanied Brother Andrew to the event were taken aback. "I think my God is too small," said the head of the Palestinian Bible Society. "I never thought that a Christian could speak to radical, fanatical fundamentalists. But even if someone did have a chance, it never occurred to me that they would actually want to sit and listen to the gospel. Today God showed me how big He is."

Such are not stories being told by the mainstream media, but they are important stories nonetheless the good news of a great God. He is risen! He is risen indeed!

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Meri Burlingame

PO Box 63

Onalaska, WA 98570

renewedhope@tds.net


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I felt this article belonged in extended news because of the import as well as avoidance of it by the MSM. However, I still started posting it in the REL FORUM. Alas, that window got closed somehow in Firefox and when I went back to try and recover, the best I could seem to do was open a new posting window--which turned out to be this one for some odd reason. I still think it belongs in extended news. Of course higher and wiser powers than I are welcome to decide otherwise.

I did a search and came up with zip previously.

Certainly the author has plenty of credibility, in my opinion.

Prayer is in order for such ministries and moves of God. God's Spirit and power, work equal the only force that can truly counter the satanic forces infecting and using Islam so destructively around the world.

1 posted on 03/29/2005 5:32:00 AM PST by Quix
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To: Quix
Scores of Muslims are converting to evangelical Christianity and will be celebrating their first Easter this year...

Praise God, more of his children are coming to saving faith in Jesus Christ!

2 posted on 03/29/2005 5:37:21 AM PST by TonyRo76 (American by birth. Patriot by choice. Christian by grace.)
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To: Quix

Dominoes falling?


3 posted on 03/29/2005 5:38:59 AM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Quix

Thanks. Interesting anecdotes. Hope for the future.


4 posted on 03/29/2005 5:39:19 AM PST by ColoCdn (Neco eos omnes, Deus suos agnoset)
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To: Quix

I think the conversion to Christianity is an easy decision to make. Christianity doesn't require extremism as a form of devotion, it doesn't require hatred, and it doesn't require murder and suicide.


5 posted on 03/29/2005 5:40:42 AM PST by cripplecreek (I'm apathetic but really don't care.)
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To: Quix

In Afghanistan, for example, there were only 17 known evangelical Christians in the country before al-Qaeda attacked the United States. Today, the number of Afghan Christians is in the thousands and growing quickly.

This makes all the deaths worthwhile and then some. If the angels in heaven rejoice over one redeemed soul . . . Praise God.

And new Believers willing to lay down their lives for Christ, one another and for a hurting world is the opposite of Jihadi's.

Dying that others might live is totally different from dying that more may die.


6 posted on 03/29/2005 5:41:24 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: TonyRo76

AMEN!


7 posted on 03/29/2005 5:41:59 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: Jet Jaguar

At least for a time.

The darkness is coming. But God is raising up His Standard ever higher and clearer.

The dark is getting darker and the light getting lighter.

Praise God for His faithfulness.

THOSE WHO EARNESTLY SEEK HIM SHALL FIND HIM.


8 posted on 03/29/2005 5:43:20 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: cripplecreek

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!


9 posted on 03/29/2005 5:43:49 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: Quix
Such numbers are difficult to verify,

They surely are, because they are fantasy, no matter how much we might wish it.

10 posted on 03/29/2005 5:44:50 AM PST by jammer
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To: cripplecreek

Ah, but you're forgetting that conversion from Islam to any other faith puts one under sentence of death.


11 posted on 03/29/2005 5:44:52 AM PST by The_Reader_David
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To: Quix
In Afghanistan, for example, there were only 17 known evangelical Christians in the country before al-Qaeda attacked the United States. Today, the number of Afghan Christians is in the thousands and growing quickly.

Church leaders say Afghan Muslims are open to hearing the gospel message like never before. Dozens of baptisms occur every week. People are snatching up Bibles and other Christian books as fast as they can be printed or brought into the country. The Jesus film, a two hour docudrama on the life of Christ based on the Gospel of Luke”was even shown on television in one city before police shut down the entire TV station.

"God is moving so fast in Afghanistan, we're just trying to keep up," one Afghan Christian worker told me, requesting anonymity. "The greatest need now is leadership development. We need to train pastors to care for all these new believers."

Anyone know how to help?

12 posted on 03/29/2005 5:45:29 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: Quix

Thank you so MUCH for posting this article. I needed to hear some most welcomed GOOD news today! God bless those who are in the front lines preaching the gospel.


13 posted on 03/29/2005 5:46:39 AM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: Alamo-Girl; American in Israel; anniegetyourgun; auggy; backhoe; backslacker; Bennett46; ...

END TIMES, DREAMS, VISIONS; AGGRESSIVE PRAY-ER

PING LISTS PING

I am actively keeping a combined list. I might be able to sort out the above 2 lists with some effort if you need me to.

If you want on or off the list(s), please let me know.


14 posted on 03/29/2005 5:48:11 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: Quix

BTTT


15 posted on 03/29/2005 5:48:23 AM PST by Ironfocus (Love, faith, honor, integrity, duty......)
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To: cripplecreek
I think the conversion to Christianity is an easy decision to make. Christianity doesn't require extremism as a form of devotion, it doesn't require hatred, and it doesn't require murder and suicide.

Unless you are a Muslim (it becomes a death sentence), or an Orthodox Jew (you are considered as dead and your family disowns you), or Hindu (you are outcast), etc... There are even some "Christian" denominations and sects that ostracize their estranged members when they change their affiliations. Granted becoming a Christian is an easy "decision" to make, but to truly live the life of a Christian is often the hardest thing to do.

16 posted on 03/29/2005 5:49:50 AM PST by P8riot (Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional.)
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To: 2banana

"One such group, Samaritan's Purse run by Franklin Graham, son of the Rev. Billy Graham"

I'm gonna look into the SAMARITAN'S PURSE in the web and donate to this worthy cause!


17 posted on 03/29/2005 5:50:40 AM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: Quix

I'm glad you perservered in getting this posted! Great article. Fact is, it will be former muslims who have converted to Christianity who will be most effective in spreading the word of the Lord.


18 posted on 03/29/2005 5:50:53 AM PST by Maria S (Some church members who sing "Standing on the Promises" are just sitting on the premises.)
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To: jammer

Mostly no, they are, essentially, not fantasy.

They are probably conservative.

The folks doing the estimating are close to the ground and know what they are talking about.

I ran into similar estimating discourses about China. Any serious efforts at any kind of estimating accuracy has proven most early estimates to be conservative.

But, hey, if you have a habit of being dismissive, who am I to try and change you.


19 posted on 03/29/2005 5:50:53 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: Quix
Zero credibility, in my opinion.
Not in a cess pit where apostasy means death.

You were right. This belongs in "Religion".

20 posted on 03/29/2005 5:52:00 AM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: Quix

"His next novel, The Ezekiel Option, comes out in August 2005"!!!!

Yippeee!! Cannot wait to read it! Last Jihad was SOOOO good!


21 posted on 03/29/2005 5:52:50 AM PST by Esther Ruth (As the mountains are around Jerusalem, so the LORD is around his people FOREVER)
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To: cripplecreek

TRUE.

At some point, it does require that we give up our all to gain Christ's all, however. Great trade!

As Jim Elliott said:

HE IS NO FOOL WHO GIVES UP WHAT HE CANNOT KEEP TO GAIN WHAT HE CANNOT LOSE.

And, many Moslem and other Believers may well become martyrs in the months and years ahead. But an entirely different sort than the Jihadi's.


22 posted on 03/29/2005 5:53:04 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: The_Reader_David

Quite so.

Kind of weeds out the 'Rice Christians' and those doing it for business reasons, don't you think?


23 posted on 03/29/2005 5:54:02 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: Salem; NYer; Mark in the Old South; Pyro7480; ArrogantBustard

Ping!


24 posted on 03/29/2005 5:56:24 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (tired of all the shucking and jiving)
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To: 2banana; All

FRANKLIN GRAHAM'S SAMARITAN'S PURSE

Is where I'd start.

I'd also include Pat Robertson's CBN OPERATION BLESSING. Operqation blessings' overhead is covered by CBN. 100% OF DONATIONS TO OPERATION BLESSING go to the needy.

Both are solid, alert, savy, effective organizations led of God and devoted to community development work as well as crisis help.

I think Jim would approve but I'll refrain from posting links to those orgs. They are easy to track down.


25 posted on 03/29/2005 5:56:35 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: cripplecreek

"I think the conversion to Christianity is an easy decision to make. Christianity doesn't REQUIRE extremism as a form of devotion, it doesn't require hatred, and it doesn't REQUIRE murder and suicide"

I was glad to see you used the term require in your post. Being that in reality, historically MANY Christians have used extremism as a form of devotion, have had hatred and murdered by the masses

Historically Christians have tried, tortured, hung and burned alive vast numbers of people because they were suspected of heresy, Judaism, Witchcraft…; slashed off people’s heads on public streets for not confessing that Jesus Christ was God; and condemned the works of some of histories greatest scientists, theologians, philosophers and artists.


26 posted on 03/29/2005 5:57:27 AM PST by DollarCoins
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To: RoseofTexas

You are most welcome. I know that feeling. Struggling to get over a heavy bout of flu and have to teach today.

THX for saying so.


27 posted on 03/29/2005 5:57:32 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: Quix

i honestly dont believe this at all. there is no way to prove it.


28 posted on 03/29/2005 5:58:10 AM PST by philsfan24
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To: Quix

Right on. Thanks.


29 posted on 03/29/2005 6:00:37 AM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Quix

To all the Ann Coulter bashers: she was right! And look!, it's all happening without guns to their heads! Who knew?!... :o)


30 posted on 03/29/2005 6:01:31 AM PST by Ladysmith (Wisconsin Hunter Shootings: If you want on/off the WI Hunters ping list, please let me know.)
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To: Publius6961

Your assessments, I have observed, on such matters

warrants little to no credibility.

I think you need to check your assessor in for a tune-up with special adjustment on the bias weighting getting extra attention. The logic circuits in those modules could stand some extra inspection as well as the sensors.

It may be that you have missing optical cells for some categories of viewed data.




You tend to have a knee-jerk response, in my experience and observation of you--anything within a light year of having anything to do with God seems to trigger a compulsive need to fling it into religion ASAP to avoid contaminating you somehow.

Sad, that.


31 posted on 03/29/2005 6:02:06 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: DollarCoins

"Historically"



Christianity has moved beyond the brutality of the far distant past. Islam isn't showing any signs of giving up violence as a means of proving devotion.


32 posted on 03/29/2005 6:03:02 AM PST by cripplecreek (I'm apathetic but really don't care.)
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To: Ironfocus

THANKS.


33 posted on 03/29/2005 6:03:15 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: P8riot

QUITE RIGHT. And plenty true in China, still.


34 posted on 03/29/2005 6:05:12 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: Quix

It was pretty clear that one of the great, unstated, objectives of the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan was to change the culture of terror, and while I don't think Bush had this specifically in mind, it was always obvious that the quickest way to do this was to change these populations from a death-based Islamic culture to a life based on Christ.


35 posted on 03/29/2005 6:06:13 AM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: Maria S

Well said.

We know where healing, wholeness, community development, hope etc. resides and originates from.

We have to know it in our bone marrow. And, to let HIM flow out sacrificially, servant-heartedly. That brings life and Eternal Life.


36 posted on 03/29/2005 6:06:29 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: Esther Ruth

Guess I'll have to read his books!

Thanks.

And for your prayers.


37 posted on 03/29/2005 6:07:09 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: Quix

Thanks for the ping!


38 posted on 03/29/2005 6:07:15 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: cripplecreek

I agree that Christianity has moved on from the BRUTALITY of the past. Perhaps one day Islam will do the same. My point is, the events taking place throughout the Middle East may do more than bring about democracy, it may change the way Muslims look at their religion. It worked for Christianity.


39 posted on 03/29/2005 6:07:26 AM PST by DollarCoins
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To: Convert from ECUSA

Thanks.


40 posted on 03/29/2005 6:07:50 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: DollarCoins
Historically Christians have tried, tortured, hung and burned alive vast numbers of people because they were suspected of heresy, Judaism, Witchcraft…; slashed off people’s heads on public streets for not confessing that Jesus Christ was God; and condemned the works of some of histories greatest scientists, theologians, philosophers and artists.

Granted there were those that PROFESSED to be Christian and carried out those acts, but such actions are NOT sanctioned by scripture, so it is really difficult to assign those perpetrators to the ranks of Christian. I can say I am a Christian and do a lot of things, but to truly be a Christian REQUIRES a change of heart that can ONLY come through the work of the Holy Spirit, and not by any effort of man. When the heart is changed the actions will change also.

41 posted on 03/29/2005 6:09:14 AM PST by P8riot (Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional.)
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To: DollarCoins

You seem to cast it wholesale darkly. I'd suspect from some personal affront or hurt in your rearing or relationships.

There have been many more scientists, leaders, hospitals, universities, enormously more community development; aid etc. given in His Name than any amount of damage you want to add up over all the 2000 years involved.

I think you need to do better homework before you make such a brazen, lop-sided and inaccurate broadside.


42 posted on 03/29/2005 6:09:59 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Good news elsewhere!


43 posted on 03/29/2005 6:11:20 AM PST by Ladysmith (Wisconsin Hunter Shootings: If you want on/off the WI Hunters ping list, please let me know.)
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To: jammer
They surely are, because they are fantasy, no matter how much we might wish it.

So, may I assume you have better intelligence and more reliable sources to share?

44 posted on 03/29/2005 6:12:27 AM PST by Skooz (Host organism for the State parasite)
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To: Quix

My intent was not to cast it wholesale darkly, rather to get my point across. The point being, that perhaps Islam can evolve in a way similar to that of Christianity.


45 posted on 03/29/2005 6:13:34 AM PST by DollarCoins
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To: philsfan24

You have told me in your short post that:

1) You have no solid expreience with such front line troops in such matters--no real personal relationships; overseas living close to such efforts; close foreign observations of such efforts etc.

2) You have a strong bias against such things being true.

3) You may well have a chrnoically skeptical bias that covers a lot of categories

4) You may well have a deep inner gritch that hopes such things are not true in order for you to justify other unknown negativity.




Basically, I don't think much of your assessment.


46 posted on 03/29/2005 6:14:06 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Most welcome. Thank you. Please pray for such!


47 posted on 03/29/2005 6:14:35 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: DollarCoins

I assume you have actual historical evidence to back up your claims.


48 posted on 03/29/2005 6:15:18 AM PST by Skooz (Host organism for the State parasite)
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To: Ladysmith

LOL. PTL!


49 posted on 03/29/2005 6:15:44 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: cripplecreek

WELL SAID.

THX.


50 posted on 03/29/2005 6:16:44 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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