Jeb Bush is courtingdereliction of duty

Worldnetdaily ^ | 3-29-2005 | Dr. Alan Keyes

[RedBloodedAmerican]

[MikefromOhio]

probably....

maybe some think she did.....

I was referring more to this thread in general, the deifying started last Monday.....

[KC_Conspirator]

Their is a reason why Keyes never has, nor will, hold elective office.

I like Alan, but it is as you said.

[semaj]

Their is a reason why Keyes never has, nor will, hold elective office.

Did you read the article, or is your keyboard pre-programmed to spew anti-Keyes rantings whenever one of his articles is posted?

[Publius Valerius]

Even if that's true, how does that change the problem with Florida's constitution? And, more importantly, the major problem with Keyes's argument--that he totally ignores a provision of the constitution that totally undercuts his position?

[Mind-numbed Robot]

I would have read it but I thankfully I saw the source before I wasted my time.

Apparently you don't consider your time very valuable since you claim to have wasted it even after seeing the author. I doubt you could pass a quiz on the article.

[VRWCisme]

My point isn't that I wish her dead, but that if she is suffering and no one is going to be able to reinsert the feeding tube, I do not want her suffering to last for weeks. As I said, I didn't agree with the decision to remove the tube in the first place. I can see your point about wanting her to linger if there is still hope, except that hope appears to be that the governor will do something he has clearly said he will not do. I suppose I feel the same way about this as I did when my grandfather was dying--I wanted him to fight as long as he could, but I also didn't want him to linger and suffer for a prolonged time.

[EternalVigilance]

Don't put words in my mouth.

Address the substance, if you are capable.

[RedBloodedAmerican]

I think he would be excellent at running inner city YMCA's, seriously. He ought to while he is still in Illinois.

[EternalVigilance]

I would imagine your grandfather was not being murdered by being deprived of water and food, though...

[Poohbah]

Dr. Keyes' case is airtight...

Which explains why he's showing signs of extreme hypoxia.

[EternalVigilance]

I see you continue to demonstrate that you have nothing to add of substance.

I'm not surprised, in your case.

[RedBloodedAmerican]

IIRC the DCF didnt have the authority.

[Mind-numbed Robot]

So if he has the Supreme EXECUTIVE power, how does the trump the Supreme JUDICIARY power?

You didn't read carefully. He said Jeb's executive power trumps the power of the cops who said they would stop him or his agents. Cops are part of a lessor executive branch.

[countess]

I doubt you could pass a quiz on the article.

I said I didn't bother to read it. I am sure that if I did, I could regurgitate it well enough to pass a quiz. Even a mind-numbed robot could do that.

[joesbucks]

So the case is airtight. Why is not Dr. Keyes taking the necessary legal steps to execute the case? Ok, so he's not a citizen of the state. Certainly one of his surrogates or followers is. If the executive has not done it's Constitutional authrority, then impeach the executive or file a citizens suit.

This is just another rant, whether correct or not, by Dr. Keyes to get some attention. I mean c'mon. All this guy can do is talk and write. Where's the beef? It's time in this situation for Dr. Keyes to either crap or get off the John.

[carlr]

Just a couple of questions.
Had Gov.Bush acted on executive authority and removed Terri how long before the lib groups seeing their precious judiciary threatened challenged that action in the Fla.Supreme Court?I think it is safe to say they would rule against the Gov.
If that were ignored by Gov Bush they quickly would appeal to the US Supreme Court.
Of the following six names which two would side with reigning in the court.Souter,Breyer,Ginsburg,Kennedy,Stevens,O`Connor?
At that point,if they found as I suspect they would what happens?What would resolve the stalemate between the executive and judicial branches.
It could add to the strength that the court has assumed for itself as now there would be a Supreme Court ruling to be cited as precedent that they are superior to either legislative or executive branch.
Is there any real chance for a Constitutional amendment being ratified that would restrict the court system?
I believe what is happening in Florida is wrong with dangerous implications for life as well as seperation of powers issues but am unsure what is way to solve the problems.

[Walkin Man]

What would stop Jeb from abusing his EXECUTIVE power for other purposes? To seize land, to incarcerate anyone he wants, to usurp the rights of ordinary citizens....

There ya go using logic on these people.

What they want is a dictator and a bloodbath between whatever force Jeb could assemble to carry out his illegal and unconstitutional seizure of raw power and the sheriffs at the hospice.

Fortunately Jeb Bush is not insane like many of the hysterical crackpots that populate this board lately.

Not to mention the loonies at Worldnetdaily...

[wildandcrazyrussian]

I read last week that Felos was gloating that the DCF
DID have a 3-hour window of opportunity which they
didn't know about (as soon as they got some injunction
and before Greer found out about it), and he made it
soun as though acting to transfer the patient to health
care would have been quite legal.

[tallhappy]

he totally ignores a provision of the constitution that totally undercuts his position?

You didn't really make this argument well.

The prisoners recieve more due process than Schiavo has.

And, they do not qualify under the other provision concerning being disabled.

It does not follow that therefore the prisoners need to be set free.

Terri Schiavo did not commit a crime, yet her life is being taken by the state.

The order is not from Michael Schiavo but by the judge. If Michael Schiavo decided to change his mind, legally he would have to go to court to request putting the tube back in.