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The Death of France's "Multiculturalism"
Frontpagemagazine ^ | 3-30-05 | Nidra Poller

Posted on 03/30/2005 4:44:30 AM PST by SJackson

October 2000, Place de la République in Paris: the first of what would become an endless series of ambiguous pro-Palestinian demonstrations welcomed the snake of anti-Semitism into its heart. “Death to the Jews” rang out loud and clear that day as policemen stood by, journalists watched with apparent indifference, and the mass of demonstrators thronged and thrust as demonstrators do.

8 March 2005, Place de la République: a thousand young toughs pierced the heart of a student demonstration and unleashed their rage…not against the police but against the “privileged classes” in their own age group—the protesting lycée students. Operating in gangs of ten and twenty, the casseurs (smashers) in brand-name sweat suits swept through the march like pirate ships, zeroed in on their prey, attacked from behind. They threw kids to the ground, gratuitously beating and kicking them, snatching handbags, ipods, wallets, and cell phones. Riot police looking like robots with their thick leather padding stood by as the predators cut through the crowd wielding knives, clubs, and tear gas bombs.

In the space of a few hours the hallowed tradition of student protest imploded. But trouble had been brewing since January when the lycée students started organizing to oppose la loi Fillon, an umpteenth educational reform project proposed by the current Minister of Education, François Fillon. The previous minister was brought down by similar protests against a different sort of reform. This is the way the system goes, educational reform followed by protest and so on and so forth, while no one is offering any project that could address the acute crisis that is shaking the very foundations of the French educational system. And, precisely, the lycée--which is the equivalent of high school with regard to the age of the students (roughly 15-18) but closer to the first year of college in terms of the level of instruction—is collapsing under the weight of a large population of no longer elite kids who are being pushed through to earn a downgraded baccalauréat, while the occupational-training lycées siphon off the losers, condemned to flounder in a distressed job market.

Since January, plainclothesmen had been tracing the smasher contingent as it trickled and then spilled into the center of town from outlying arrondissements and banlieues to do mischief on the fringes of the protest movement. The numbers swelled from one demonstration to the next, the mischief increased accordingly. And yet the police were caught off guard when a thousand smashers moved into action against the students on March 8th. A police spokesman later explained that they could not go after the gangs in the midst of the crowd without causing collateral damage. They did arrest at least 80 suspects on the edges of the march and in the side streets where the troublemakers pursued their punitive expedition.

When the student protestors took to the streets again on March 15th they marched arm in arm in square dance formations, protected by a cordon sanitaire of husky union members, and massive squadrons of riot police. The ranks of demonstrators had dwindled to a piddling leftover, the smashers were kept at bay, but sirens wailed all that afternoon as riot control vehicles with cattle catchers trundled between La République and la Nation, giving the impression that all hell was breaking loose.

French media dutifully reported the March 8th incidents, a few shocking images of bloodied and battered students were shown on TV, but there doesn’t seem to be any serious reflection about this striking development—a real clash of civilizations. Student street protests are a mainstay of French life, no less important than sidewalk cafés, long vacations, bare breast advertisements, and Doctors without Borders. And smashers are part and parcel of the international street protest tradition. They are the alter ego of the misguided do-gooders who are only asking for peace and justice for the Palestinians, for the environment, for indigenous tribes, for African cotton planters. The smashers are the attack dogs launched against public order. They smash shop windows, bank façades, cars, and policemen. From 2000 to 2003, Pro-Palestinian / anti-war demonstrations in Paris habitually ended with flag burnings, destruction of public property, and Hamas salutes. The jihadi contingent, the Saddamites, the apologists for terrorism came to dominate the peace movement. When President Bush came to France for the June 2004 D-Day commemoration he was treated to a tremendous anti-Bush demonstration; in addition to the usual jihad contingent, a horde of skuzzy beer-drinking anarchists paraded with their pitbulls and rotweilers, promising “à Paris comme à Falluja la guerilla vaincra [in Paris, in Falluja, guerilla warriors will win].”

The guerilla warriors did show up in March, but they didn’t attack the established order, they beat up and plundered kids their own age who have a brighter future and a fancier brand of running shoes. The mentality of these French adolescents--whose parents come from Africa or the Maghreb--is a mixture of common ordinary delinquency, jihad against the infidels, blind revolt of the wretched of the earth, and stupid antics of spoiled kids.

The violent eruption of the Third World in the midst of a time-honored French protest tradition is the very emblem of what is going wrong in French society at the dawn of the 21st century. All the more noteworthy when the Paris street is compared to the Lebanese street, where close to a million demonstrators braving danger of another magnitude thronged the streets of Beirut that same week, determined to wrest their Islamized Middle Eastern country from the stranglehold of a Syrian occupant who had seemed—until recently—invulnerable.

What does it mean when the smashers start smashing the demonstrators? Voices have been warning that the passions unleashed by the virulent anti-Zionism fostered at all levels of French society since the autumn of 2000 would not stop with Zionists and Jews; they would turn against the society as a whole. The warning was majestically ignored. As anti-Zionism morphed into anti-Semitism and joined hands with anti-Americanism, we witnessed an increasing trend to self-destructive histrionics. The connection with reality is easily damaged in a culture that tends to take the word for the deed, the posture for the position, the pretension for power. The public has been fed heavy doses of propaganda from the very media that should have been helping responsible citizens understand the great upheavals taking place in the Middle East, with repercussions in their own daily lives. Instead, conflict is blamed on Israel and the United States, while conflict in Europe is stubbornly denied. Only recently French PM Jean-Pierre Raffarin, campaigning in support of the proposed European Constitution, declared in his inimitable 1950s radio voice: “Europe means peace.”

And what do the lycéens of France want? Some observers say the kids don’t even know themselves. While a small minority may have good arguments against the reform, most have nothing more than the word NO painted on their foreheads and hands. They are against the reform the same way they are against “the war”: in a vacuum. The inevitable rainbow PACE [peace in Italian] flags were flying in the demonstrations, even as the predators bore down on the hapless victims.

How much further can romanticized revolution go? The pro-Palestinian movement that has sullied huge swathes of French society culminated in the shamefully orchestrated death in Paris of Yasser Arafat. The banana republic anti-American anti-war movement deflated when jihadi peace marchers beat up youths from the leftist Zionist Hashomer Hazair movement in the last great Parisian peace demonstration in March 2003. And now the grandchildren of May ’68 can’t enjoy their ritual protest movement in peace. The Palestinians revered by European humanitarianists are kept at a safe distance; but on March 8th the children of the Third World, the punks and the dropouts, the hoodlums and the lost souls crashed the party and spoke for themselves with kicks and hammerlocks.

While the editorial director of the let-it-all-hang-out daily Libération, Grandpa Serge July with his grisly beard, was thumping around Baghdad trying to retrieve his reporter Florence Aubenas held hostage in Lebanon since January 5th, his newspaper was gushing over the student movement personified in the figure of Morgane Moalic, a 17 year-old Lolita revolutionary photographed against a backdrop of a Marx-Hegel-Lenin calendar. The young lady won’t listen to American pop music, because “America is the cradle of evil.” She prefers Noir Désir, a group that disbanded a few years ago when bandleader Bertrand Cantat went to jail for beating his sweetheart Marie Trintignant to death…in Vilnius. Not to look like an old fuddy-duddy, the intellectually pretentious newspaper of record, Le Monde, featured its own 17 year-old: Constance Blanchard, president of the National Union of Lycéens. In between the portrait of Morgane, published on the eve of the March 8th protest, and the portrait of Constance, featured the day after, fell the shadow of violence that ripped apart their demonstration and left the movement, at least for the moment, in tatters.

Not a hint of that shadow on the portraits of Morgane and Constance. Pouting and triumphant with youthful exasperation they stand firm against the system, the no-future, the very unfairness of life and studies.

EPILOGUE

26 March 2005: Any doubt that may have lingered about the importance of the March 8th incidents is now dispelled by an equally momentous event: Le Monde, France’s newspaper of record, has admitted—after several weeks of soul-searching and honest investigative journalism—to an across the board, deliberate, longstanding refusal to acknowledge the existence of anti-white anti-French racism. Ombudsman Robert Solé strings together a series of letters from readers, interspersed with vivid details on the violence of the attacks, and concludes that the paper has been treating the issue with politically correct kid gloves and a dearth of investigation. When Le Monde wakes up, other French media might just open one eye. Stay tuned for further developments.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: antiamericanism; antibush; antiisraelism; antisemitism; antizionism; france; hatingamerica; islamofanatism; israel; jihadism; newnazism; racism; religionofpeace; us

1 posted on 03/30/2005 4:44:30 AM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson
"Le Monde, France’s newspaper of record, has admitted—after several weeks of soul-searching and honest investigative journalism—to an across the board, deliberate, longstanding refusal to acknowledge the existence of anti-white anti-French racism."

This 'anti-white anti-French racism' and general anarchy is not the symptom of anything but the result of the moral capitulation the French made long ago.
2 posted on 03/30/2005 4:59:46 AM PST by SMARTY
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
3 posted on 03/30/2005 5:06:11 AM PST by SJackson (Be careful -- with quotations, you can damn anything, Andre Malraux)
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To: SMARTY
Re #2

The beasts sanctimonious leftist elites raised and nurtured are fully mature and turning on their masters. They have been warned, but did not listen. Now they reap what they sowed.

4 posted on 03/30/2005 5:06:46 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: SJackson

The French, who are so protective of their culture their government has an official department charged with keeping non-french words such as 'hamburger' out of the language, will wake up soon to the fact they must face the realities of demographics: there are many people they have allowed to live in France who have no desire to become French.

Further, many of these people have cultural and religious values that are openly hostile to France, and these people are reproducing at rates many times that at which the native French are.

If the French do not do something very soon, they will have lost France to people who will gladly impose an Islamic culture, a power-oriented culture that will not make the same mistake as it reshapes the nation.

This implies that the French must do something drastic, for their liberal democratic values force them to commit cultural suicide based on the relative rates of reproduction. The options are stark and conflict with a range of liberal values: the native French must start to have a lot more children, or they must deport large numbers of Muslim non-natives.

Retaking Europe since the Spanish expelled the Muslims over 500 years ago has long been the goal of Islam. Indeed, the Madrid train bombings were done in the name of reclaiming " Andalusia", the Moorish name for southern Spain.


5 posted on 03/30/2005 5:11:35 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: SJackson
The connection with reality is easily damaged in a culture that tends to take the word for the deed, the posture for the position, the pretension for power.

This summarizes the history in Paris of the last 40 years, since the concept of "palestinians" was invented. Even in the mid sixties, when I first personally experienced Paris in depth, it was apparent that a cancer was growing.

By the mid-seventies, Parisians had abandoned their more modern shopping centers, monuments and cultural icons to the rabble, and stayed behind barred doors in their banlieue, bought dogs for protection, willingly blind to the inevitable.

I don't see expulsion as an option, France is farther along the slide to oblivion than the U.S. is, and will drop into the violence of a national pest eradication uncivil war. It would be educational to watch cosely and not repeat their mistake.

6 posted on 03/30/2005 5:34:00 AM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: SJackson
One day, the french are going to wake up to find that the country is no longer theirs and the people who do own it, hate their guts. Then their nightmares will begin. They've injected themselves with a virulent cancer to which they have no defenses. Then it will happen to the rest of Europe as well.

After that will come a loooooooooooooooong period of regrets that they had a civilized country and they threw it away with both hands as fast as they possibly could.

7 posted on 03/30/2005 5:34:21 AM PST by America's Resolve (BE PATRIOTIC! MAKE AN EXTRA BABY (OR TWO!))
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To: SMARTY
It takes these moral and intellectual morons of the Western "Newsmedia" "several weeks of soul-searching and honest investigative journalism"--not to mention years of apathy, hubris, denial, and groupthink--to state the obvious.

And these so-called "journalists" wonder why the public holds them in such contempt.

8 posted on 03/30/2005 5:37:39 AM PST by Savage Beast (There is nothing liberal about the Left!)
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To: theBuckwheat
who will gladly impose an Islamic culture

I tend to think of it as the "European Caliphate"

9 posted on 03/30/2005 5:40:18 AM PST by America's Resolve (BE PATRIOTIC! MAKE AN EXTRA BABY (OR TWO!))
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To: theBuckwheat
...people they have allowed to live in France who have no desire to become French

That's it exactly. They will never be French, they only wait until France becomes Shari'a, and they are starting to feel cocky.

10 posted on 03/30/2005 5:41:46 AM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: SMARTY

Le Monde waking to the threat against France is a first step. Imagine the shattering explosion inside the average French intellectual's mind when they realize that all the appeasement hasn't worked afterall. It might be too much for them to take the next step and consider that the islamofacist hatred of America is similarly illogical, as opposed to valid.

'Course I don't really care whether France wakes up in time to rescue itself.


11 posted on 03/30/2005 5:44:22 AM PST by happyathome
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To: Sender
“America is the cradle of evil.”

One day, the frenchies are going to find out that there are worse people in the world that "evil" Americans, or hell, even Jooooooooooooooos. And they've invited them into France by the boatload.

By then it'll be too late though.

Now the Muslims have found out that thuggery works on a large scale. France is going to find it impossible to put that genie back into the bottle.

12 posted on 03/30/2005 5:46:08 AM PST by America's Resolve (BE PATRIOTIC! MAKE AN EXTRA BABY (OR TWO!))
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To: Savage Beast
The situation has become extreme. I don't know if the French can recover. It seems they have passed the point of no return. How rehabilitate a people who have subordinated their national awrareness to the extremes of self loathing? France is paralyzed with this morbid inability and aversion to being authentic to itself, because no form of nationalism I am aware of can exist there now. Maybe nationalism is their particular bogey man, but it is in fact necessary for a sovereign people. The PC extremes to which the French have put themselves is precluding a return to anything like a nationalism as is typically understood. It is a truly unwholesome situation. They have ruined themselves for their PC ideal.
13 posted on 03/30/2005 5:50:39 AM PST by SMARTY
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To: SJackson
"The mentality...is a mixture of common ordinary delinquency, jihad against the infidels, blind revolt of the wretched of the earth, and stupid antics of spoiled kids."

The stupid antics of these spoiled kids cannot compare to the stupid antics of the spoiled kids who serve as reporters etc. in the "Mainstream Newsmedia" and who lead the decadent, Leftist movements of the West.

"The violent eruption of the Third World in the midst of a time-honored French protest tradition is the very emblem of what is going wrong in French society at the dawn of the 21st century."

I don't know how to break this to you, but France is a Third World country. And if you think this is violent--just wait!

The entire mess was both predictable and preventable.

The French people--like many other Europeans--ignored the obvious; allowed themselves to get lost in hubris, denial, and moral vacuity; and succumbed to a hideous, suicidal decadence that has swept the West like the plague and promises to be far more devastating.

"We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality."
~Ayn Rand~

"Never underestimate the power of denial."
~Alan Ball~

"There are none so blind as those who will not see."
~Everybody in the World~

"We are sick and tired of all these nasty and untrue rumors circulating about us!"
~Oedipus and Jocasta~

14 posted on 03/30/2005 5:56:06 AM PST by Savage Beast (There is nothing liberal about the Left!)
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To: Savage Beast

BUMP!


15 posted on 03/30/2005 6:29:30 AM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: happyathome
Good morning.

At it's core the French national psyche is fascist. The Islamists will find that out when the French, along with the other Western European countries, do wake up.

The awakening is likely to be explosive.

Michael Frazier
16 posted on 03/30/2005 6:30:28 AM PST by brazzaville (No surrender,no retreat. Well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: brazzaville

I agree. The world will discover what "La Zone" is, and why it was designed to be blocked up by a few armoured cars.


17 posted on 03/30/2005 7:05:01 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: brazzaville

I tend to agree with you. Although I don't think the French will be able to take their country back, it will become a cauldron of fire. The British Isles, I think, will also become a cauldron of fire. I can't even imagine what the Germans will do when they start to wake up.


18 posted on 03/30/2005 7:11:37 AM PST by Ashamed Canadian
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To: Salem; IAF ThunderPilot; SirLurkedalot; sheik yerbouty; SunkenCiv; Slings and Arrows; ...

Another France Fubar ping!


19 posted on 03/30/2005 7:30:36 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (tired of all the shucking and jiving)
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The Dreyfus Affair again
by Bradford R. Pilcher
"When Dreyfus was paraded through the streets of Paris in a humiliating display, 'Death to Dreyfus' was not the call of the mob. Instead, they chanted, 'Death to the Jews.' Students of history will also recall who was in the jeering crowd on that day. Theodor Herzl, who was reporting on the Dreyfus Affair, was there to hear the citizens of Paris demanding death for his people. He saw the meaning of the events surrounding Dreyfus's persecution, that in spite of their most sincere efforts, the Jews could not be secure as a homeless minority."

20 posted on 03/30/2005 7:53:28 AM PST by SunkenCiv (last updated my FreeRepublic profile on Friday, March 25, 2005.)
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To: SJackson
"Voices have been warning that the passions unleashed by the virulent anti-Zionism fostered at all levels of French society since the autumn of 2000 would not stop with Zionists and Jews; they would turn against the society as a whole."

Call me crazy, but I'm convinced that anti-Semitism persists so strongly because it is a form of revolt against God. The Jews are the messengers who brought us God's blessings (and His standards). Killing the messengers is a way to get at the Source. I know it isn't rational, but that's the point. Rebellion against God and his ways is emotional and insane.

Anti-Semitic societies unravel because they are societies that, over time, foster chaos and the will to power above all else.

22 posted on 03/30/2005 8:27:33 AM PST by cookcounty (If a serial bigamist takes 7 common-law wives, can he legally starve all of them to death or only 6?)
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To: cookcounty; buffyt; Victoria Delsoul

Excellent spiritual insight!


23 posted on 03/30/2005 8:42:44 AM PST by Paul Ross (We have sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: SJackson
The banana republic anti-American anti-war movement deflated when jihadi peace marchers beat up youths from the leftist Zionist Hashomer Hazair movement in the last great Parisian peace demonstration in March 2003. And now the grandchildren of May ’68 can’t enjoy their ritual protest movement in peace.

What a shame...heh, heh, heh. Hoist by their own petard, oie?

24 posted on 03/30/2005 8:44:04 AM PST by Paul Ross (We have sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: SJackson
...Morgane Moalic, a 17 year-old Lolita revolutionary photographed against a backdrop of a Marx-Hegel-Lenin calendar.

What an ignorant moron.

25 posted on 03/30/2005 8:51:36 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: cookcounty; Salem; SJackson; IAF ThunderPilot; Alouette; SirLurkedalot; sheik yerbouty; ...

"Call me crazy, but I'm convinced that anti-Semitism persists so strongly because it is a form of revolt against God. The Jews are the messengers who brought us God's blessings (and His standards). Killing the messengers is a way to get at the Source. I know it isn't rational, but that's the point. Rebellion against God and his ways is emotional and insane."

Cookcounty, you are exactly right in what you wrote in the above quote. More than you may know. Spot-on and right-on.

Ping to my usual list for cheers to another good FReeper!


26 posted on 03/30/2005 10:23:08 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (tired of all the shucking and jiving)
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To: agere_contra
The world will discover what "La Zone" is, and why it was designed to be blocked up by a few armoured cars.

What is "La Zone"?

27 posted on 03/30/2005 12:03:20 PM PST by stripes1776
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To: theBuckwheat

Good points, except for the fact that "Al-Andalus" was the name for present day Andalucia.


28 posted on 03/30/2005 12:06:06 PM PST by Clemenza (Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms: The Other Holy Trinity)
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To: America's Resolve

Has France ever REALLY been civilized? I mean, I guess certain elements have been, they certainly have been effete, but, they've pretty much constantly been in conflict since 1787 haven't they? Destroying images of God and pretending to be better than everyone? Can we help enjoying these arrogant poseurs getting their comeuppance?

The French have always been the houseguest that never leaves and never pays for anything.


29 posted on 03/30/2005 12:14:50 PM PST by johnb838 (Thy Will, Not Mine, Be Done; No abortion, no euthanazia. NEVER!)
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To: stripes1776
What is "La Zone"?

It refers to the poverty-stricken, dignity-stripped suburban housing projects around Paris. Theodore Dalrymple talks about it in a fascinating article here.

30 posted on 03/30/2005 12:19:58 PM PST by untenured
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To: America's Resolve
One day, the french are going to wake up to find that the country is no longer theirs and the people who do own it, hate their guts. Then their nightmares will begin. They've injected themselves with a virulent cancer to which they have no defenses. Then it will happen to the rest of Europe as well.

Boy, I hope you're wrong, because the French will do what they always do when they are overrun. Call on Uncle Sam.
31 posted on 03/30/2005 12:27:03 PM PST by Beckwith (I knew Churchill, and Ward Churchill is no Churchill . . . he ain't no Indian either . . .)
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To: johnb838
Perhaps you're right and I didn't word it carefully enough.

Whether they're a civilization or not we'll leave to another day. But they lead civilized lives. They can generally go about their lives peaceably. They don't have to fear their doors being broken down in the middle of the night and being dragged off to a gulag. They don't need to worry where their next meal is coming from, nor do they have to hunt it down.

They live comfortable lives in a technologically advanced country that their forebears built, but they'd rather, through pride and spite, throw it away and live under muslim dominiation, was my main point.

32 posted on 03/30/2005 12:33:24 PM PST by America's Resolve (BE PATRIOTIC! MAKE AN EXTRA BABY (OR TWO!))
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To: TigerLikesRooster
The outskirts and suburbs of French cities (arrondisements) are North African ghettos. The "smashers" the article describes are therefore muslim thugs attacking high school age French demonstrators who themselves haven't got the faintest clue what they're protesting against or why their futures have turned to merde.

Honestly, it's really hard to sympathize with people who won't do anything to protect themselves but blame every single problem in the world on US(A), so I guess I'll just microwave a bag of corn, pull up my easy chair, crack open a brew, and watch.

33 posted on 03/30/2005 12:35:47 PM PST by katana
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To: Beckwith
There won't be a thing Uncle Sam can do, any more than there's a thing the French can do.

They're 2-3 generations into this immigration madness now. While they're still bringing in large numbers of people who could be deported, the vast majority of these Algerians and Moroccans have been in France for decades, are French citizens and have every "right" to be there, at least as much right as any native french citizens. Who do they deport? Who do they kill?

If France can't bring itself, because of Political Correctness, to shut off the supply of immigrants, I think it's fantasy to think that they're going to wake up one day and kill or deport every muslim in the country.

As much as we (certainly including myself!) may harp and b*tch about Mexican border-jumpers, I'd much rather have them, than the Muslims that France has imported. At least they're Christians and want the same American dream that I do, namely, a better life for their families.

34 posted on 03/30/2005 12:41:09 PM PST by America's Resolve (BE PATRIOTIC! MAKE AN EXTRA BABY (OR TWO!))
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To: Beckwith

It will be very interesting if france decides they might have to work more closely with America on this.

I'm still boycotting all things french and have no intention of swaying. They have a boatload of apologizing to do for their last 40 years of antiAmericanism.


35 posted on 03/30/2005 12:47:17 PM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: stripes1776

La m*rde..


36 posted on 03/30/2005 12:51:44 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: SJackson

'Camp of the Saints' come true.


37 posted on 03/30/2005 12:52:15 PM PST by Crawdad (The following statement is false. The preceding statement is true.)
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To: johnb838

France has a history of syphilisation.


38 posted on 03/30/2005 12:53:11 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: America's Resolve

And I guess what I'm saying is despite their centuries of protestations to the contrary, they've always been an ignorant cultural backwater with delusions of grandeur. That's what has gotten them to this pass.

Of course, we are in no position to boast. We are not so far down the road as they but it may be too late for us as well, if the wave of ignorance, bigotry, misappropriation, and death turn out to be a tsunami as it appears it might be.


39 posted on 03/30/2005 12:56:15 PM PST by johnb838 (Thy Will, Not Mine, Be Done; No abortion, no euthanazia. NEVER!)
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To: SJackson
Are they starting to figure it out, or is this just posturing? I'm afraid that when they finally open their eyes they are going to be terrified at what they see.

They have a long road back to sanity.

40 posted on 03/30/2005 12:57:56 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: untenured
Theodore Dalrymple talks about it in a fascinating article

Thanks for the link to the article explaining La Zone. This is my introduction to City Journal--many intersting article. I will visit often to read more.

41 posted on 03/30/2005 2:59:24 PM PST by stripes1776
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To: SJackson

Yes, I read this article too. Thanks for posting it. It's really terrible what's happening in France and much of Europe. Whatever France cultural and social faults are, it's still a part of what's called "the West". "West" is a bit amorphous meaning, but the point is that France and much of Europe allowed themselves to buy into a false ideology of Multiculturalism rather then understanding and respecting their Cultural and Spiritual heritage rooted in the best of Christianity, Enlightment and Rennaisance and Greco-Roman political traditions. France failed to demand that all immigrants, including Muslims respect the best of French heritage and make a serious effort to integrate into French Society. Multiculturalism combined with blind anti-Americanism, anti Semitism, etc. causing France to implode.

I still hope that France will realize what's at stake, start seriously dealing with AntiSemitism and AntiAmericanism and begin agressively prosecuting and deporting all the Islamic Extremists. I hope also that France starts unequivocally demanding from the rest of Muslim immigrants that they must respect and integrate into French Society. You can't have "Multiculturalism" (euphemism for coexistence) and preserve Civilization. More agressive and primitive culture will always win unless more civilized culture decisively protects itself.


42 posted on 03/30/2005 3:09:55 PM PST by sergey1973 (Russian American Political Blogger, Arm Chair Strategist)
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To: America's Resolve
Good evening.
"...they're Christians and want the same American Dream that I do,..."

La Raza is about the "race", not about being an American. The migration is about conquest much more than about a standard of living.

Michael Frazier
43 posted on 03/30/2005 5:20:03 PM PST by brazzaville (No surrender,no retreat. Well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: sheik yerbouty

:) LOL! You said it!


44 posted on 03/31/2005 9:25:48 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (tired of all the shucking and jiving)
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