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11th Circuit Court Rejects Schiavo Appeal
ABC ^ | Mar 30, 2005 | RON WORD Associated Press Writer

Posted on 03/30/2005 12:25:05 PM PST by jpsb

Edited on 03/30/2005 12:44:39 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

With time running out for Terri Schiavo, a federal appeals court Wednesday rejected her parents' latest attempt to get the brain-damaged woman's feeding tube reconnected.

The Atlanta-based 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals agreed to consider an emergency bid by Bob and Mary Schindler for a new hearing in their case, raising a flicker of hope for the parents after a series of setbacks in the case. But the court rejected the request 15 hours later.

Three times last week, the court also ruled against the Schindlers.

"Any further action by our court or the district court would be improper," Judge Stanley F. Birch Jr. wrote. "While the members of her family and the members of Congress have acted in a way that is both fervent and sincere, the time has come for dispassionate discharge of duty."

To be granted, the parents' request would have needed the support of seven of the court's 12 judges. The court did not disclose the vote breakdown.

The Schindlers visited their daughter Wednesday morning at her hospice and urged their supporters to keep trying. "I was pleasantly surprised by what I saw," Bob Schindler said. "So she's still fighting, and we'll keep fighting."

"We know that some of her organs are still functioning. ... It's not too late," he said.

In requesting a new hearing, the Schindlers argued that a federal judge in Tampa should have considered the entire state court record and not whether previous Florida court rulings met legal standards under state law. The Schindlers' motion also said the federal appellate court in Atlanta didn't consider whether there was enough "clear and convincing" evidence that Terri Schiavo would have chosen to die in her current condition.


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1 posted on 03/30/2005 12:25:05 PM PST by jpsb
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To: jpsb

uuuuh, what? This is one of the most incomprehensible posts I've ever seen. Care to elaborate?


2 posted on 03/30/2005 12:26:03 PM PST by .38sw
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To: jpsb

Opps Courts not curt.Sorry typeo


3 posted on 03/30/2005 12:26:38 PM PST by jpsb
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To: jpsb; Admin Moderator

WTF ?


4 posted on 03/30/2005 12:26:52 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Nations do not survive by setting examples for others. Nations survive by making examples of others)
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To: .38sw

The Appeals court deny Terri appeal, the courts are finished with this case. Fox


5 posted on 03/30/2005 12:27:20 PM PST by jpsb
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To: jpsb

OK, thanks.


6 posted on 03/30/2005 12:27:40 PM PST by .38sw
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To: .38sw

Prayers sent.


7 posted on 03/30/2005 12:28:13 PM PST by TXBSAFH (Never underestimate the power of human stupidity--Robert Heinlein)
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To: jpsb

I would hate to see the secnario, like with some death row cases, where her tube is re-inserted, then put back in, then taken out ad infinitum.


8 posted on 03/30/2005 12:29:21 PM PST by Semper Paratus (-)
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To: jpsb

Just what I thought would happen. Damn! Nothing going on with the legislature either.


9 posted on 03/30/2005 12:29:34 PM PST by dc-zoo
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To: jpsb

When the law says they must grant a de novo hearing, how can they constitutionally reject it? What sadists!


10 posted on 03/30/2005 12:29:38 PM PST by Norman Bates (Pray for Terri)
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To: TXBSAFH

Jeb "Pontius" Bush has already wash his hands on this.

Wonder if he asked for Judge Rear's permission before washing his hands?


11 posted on 03/30/2005 12:29:51 PM PST by bluebeak
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To: jpsb

Do we have any judges with a conscience in this country?


12 posted on 03/30/2005 12:30:10 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Semper Paratus

Yes, but Judge Wilson dissented AGAIN.

Clinton appointee with a little humanity...


13 posted on 03/30/2005 12:30:15 PM PST by BigEdLB (BigEd)
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To: bluebeak

wash = washed (before the spell and grammar checkers get me)


14 posted on 03/30/2005 12:30:24 PM PST by bluebeak
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To: jpsb

I hate them. I really do. It is almost as if they said they were going to review it just to taunt everyone, because I doubt that they had any intention of examining it again. They have all the power, and they're letting us know it.


15 posted on 03/30/2005 12:30:30 PM PST by livius
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To: jpsb; All
A FEDERAL APPEALS COURT AGAIN REFUSES TO INTERVENE IN THE TERRI SCHIAVO CASE

No story yet just breaking on ABC News.

16 posted on 03/30/2005 12:30:39 PM PST by areafiftyone (The Democrat's Mind: The Hamster's dead but the wheel's still spinning!)
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To: jpsb

I like judges less and less every day. Would it kill them to order her feeding tube reinserted while they investigate the truth of the matter?


18 posted on 03/30/2005 12:31:01 PM PST by Irish Rose (Some people march to the beat of a different drummer. And some people tango!)
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To: bluebeak

What do you want him to do?


19 posted on 03/30/2005 12:31:24 PM PST by jveritas
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To: jpsb

on FNC confirmed-denied

Wonder if Jessie is doing better at the Fla State legislature?


20 posted on 03/30/2005 12:31:26 PM PST by JustPiper (NoE your Enemy !!!)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Do we have any judges with a conscience in this country

Yes ... but they're very rare

21 posted on 03/30/2005 12:31:44 PM PST by clamper1797 (This Vietnam Vet ain't Fonda Kerry)
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To: All
Decision
22 posted on 03/30/2005 12:31:55 PM PST by BigEdLB (BigEd)
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To: bluebeak

I am sick about all of this. What is the use of voting for republicans if they do not govern as such. This and take a look at the TX legislature a den of li=ars and thieves.


23 posted on 03/30/2005 12:32:09 PM PST by TXBSAFH (Never underestimate the power of human stupidity--Robert Heinlein)
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To: jpsb

So is Levin's followup book to be "Murderers in Black"? Just ****

("just damn" doesn't do it justice)


24 posted on 03/30/2005 12:32:18 PM PST by Christian4Bush ("In Common" for 1000, Alex: Beached whale, terrorist, juvenile murder 1. "Whom can U not starve?")
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To: dc-zoo

"Just what I thought would happen."

Same here. It shouldn't be a surprise.

It was just false hope o behalf of the Shindlers.

You know, maybe the good Lord wants Terri in heaven. Ultimately it is His will that will prevail.


25 posted on 03/30/2005 12:32:19 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: jpsb

Thanks. Your post was perfectly clear to me BTW.


26 posted on 03/30/2005 12:32:20 PM PST by plain talk
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To: jpsb

URGENT
11th Circuit rejects latest appeal by Terri Schiavo’s parents
Eds: UPDATES throughout with quotes from the decision.
With BC-Brain-Damaged Woman-Monks, BC-Brain-Damaged Woman-Timeline
AP Photos FLSN105, FLEV114, FLPET101
AP Graphic SCHIAVO CARE
By JOHNNY CLARK
Associated Press Writer
ATLANTA (AP) — With time running out for Terri Schiavo, a federal appeals court Wednesday rejected her parent’s latest attempt to get the brain-damaged woman’s feeding tube reconnected.
More than 15 hours after agreeing to consider an emergency bid by Bob and Mary Schindler for a new hearing in their case, the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals handed down its ruling.
“Any further action by our court or the district court would be improper,” Judge Stanley F. Birch Jr. wrote in a concurring opinion.
“While the members of her family and the members of Congress have acted in a way that is both fervent and sincere, the time has come for dispassionate discharge of duty,” Birch wrote.
To be granted, the Schindlers’ request would have needed the support of seven of the court’s 12 judges. The court did not disclose the vote breakdown, but the order did say Judge William Pryor did not vote because he is recovering from surgery.
Three times last week, the court also ruled against the Schindlers.
In requesting the new hearing and a court order for their daughter’s feeding tube to be reconnected, the Schindlers argued that a federal judge in Tampa should have considered the entire state court record and not whether previous Florida court rulings met legal muster under state law. The Schindlers’ motion also said the Atlanta-based federal appellate court didn’t consider whether there was enough “clear and convincing” evidence that Terri Schiavo would have chosen to die in her current condition.


27 posted on 03/30/2005 12:32:23 PM PST by Brian Mosely (A government is a body of people -- usually notably ungoverned)
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To: jpsb

Jeb, it's not too late to take action. Please!


28 posted on 03/30/2005 12:32:28 PM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Centurion2000

Thankyou AdminModerator, you have saved me from many many flames. Typing is not my strong suit. This is sad news, the fallout will be big.


29 posted on 03/30/2005 12:32:29 PM PST by jpsb
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To: jpsb

So much for the right to life.


30 posted on 03/30/2005 12:32:38 PM PST by sageb1
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To: bluebeak

Florida lawmaker says he will consider impeaching Schiavo Judge Greer

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1373930/posts

Jess just arrived back at hospice


31 posted on 03/30/2005 12:33:09 PM PST by JustPiper (NoE your Enemy !!!)
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To: jpsb

Big surprise. Agreeing to hear an appeal they knew they would reject is pure cruelty.


32 posted on 03/30/2005 12:33:26 PM PST by thoughtomator (Order "Judges Gone Wild!" Only $19.95 have your credit card handy!)
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To: bluebeak

Terri would have been dead two years ago if it weren't for JEB's help, not to mention what he's done this time. Step back and take another look at it.


33 posted on 03/30/2005 12:33:36 PM PST by Petronski (If Reichskanzler Greer can kill Terri, who will be next?)
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To: Diogenesis

Bump Dio!


34 posted on 03/30/2005 12:33:46 PM PST by JustPiper (NoE your Enemy !!!)
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To: clamper1797
Yes ... but they're very rare

And getting rarer by the day.

35 posted on 03/30/2005 12:33:49 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Brian Mosely

And Jesse Jackson is back in Pinellas Park.


36 posted on 03/30/2005 12:34:01 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: BigEdLB

I guess all those Reagan and G.H.W.Bush appointees aren't worth the hot air and rhetoric Republicans have offered over the years.


37 posted on 03/30/2005 12:34:16 PM PST by Norman Bates (Pray for Terri)
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To: JustPiper

The news media is running after him at this moment on the site of the murder hospice.


38 posted on 03/30/2005 12:34:28 PM PST by WestCoastGal (Bristol~2 get a tkt to a race there is like trying to slip an out of spec car thru NASCAR inspection)
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To: JustPiper

No it's over in the Senate. They will let her die.


40 posted on 03/30/2005 12:34:41 PM PST by northernlightsII
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To: bluebeak
Jeb "Pontius" Bush has already wash his hands on this.

What was he supposed to do? Ignore the law? He has no power to change the laws, he can only enforce them

41 posted on 03/30/2005 12:34:46 PM PST by Lunatic Fringe (North Texas Solutions http://ntxsolutions.com)
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To: Norman Bates

That was the problem. The law didn't say "must", it said "may".


42 posted on 03/30/2005 12:34:50 PM PST by isrul
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To: jpsb
May God Be with her and her family; it appears that questions regarding her being conscious are irrelevant in the eyes of the court.

May God forgive us all if she is....
43 posted on 03/30/2005 12:34:58 PM PST by PigRigger (Send donations to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org)
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To: TXBSAFH

Many of us are devastated by this.

Please, though, don't even try to suggest that a Democrat governor, congress, or president would have done better on this case. They would have required cremation before death.


44 posted on 03/30/2005 12:35:05 PM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: jveritas

Save our sister Terri.


45 posted on 03/30/2005 12:35:11 PM PST by Norman Bates (Pray for Terri)
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To: thoughtomator
Agreeing to hear an appeal they knew they would reject is pure cruelty.

Bump, all it did was take the heat off Fla legistrators.

46 posted on 03/30/2005 12:35:25 PM PST by jpsb
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To: jveritas

he should have never held the press conference and performed his duties as governor. Typical coward politician looking for a way to have someone tell him not to do something/get involved.

He was question as the Press Conference on whether he would act ... and basically fumbled around and look cluelessly around to his legal aid to help him answer the question.

COWARD.!

And I'm mainly an economic conservative. He obviously doesn't believe in the equal branches of government and separation of powers.

PS: I think he asked Judge Rear if he could tie his shoes this morning.


47 posted on 03/30/2005 12:35:26 PM PST by bluebeak
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To: Irish Rose

Well as far as they are concerned (and the MSM talking heads agree) the truth of the matter has already been determined by MANY judges! If I hear that li(n)e one more time I will puke. Shep Smith attempting to "educate" the public on the "facts" rather than emotion...SHE IS PVS according to the law - there IS NO question about that according to him just now. He and Lis Weihl and the rest of the media are making me ill.


48 posted on 03/30/2005 12:36:06 PM PST by Kylie_04
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To: Norman Bates

The law passed by Congress asked "In such a suit, the District Court shall determine de novo any claim of a violation of any right of Theresa Marie Schiavo within the scope of this Act, notwithstanding any prior State court determination and regardless of whether such a claim has previously been raised, considered, or decided in State court proceedings." The Congressional bill below and quoted above to me looks like it did not order a de novo hearing -- they asked the Court to "determine" if a de novo hearing should be called. Some lawyer correct me if I am wrong please.

“Compromise Bill” Re: Terri Schiavo Signed Into Law

The “compromise bill” shown below was introduced on Saturday, March 19, 2005, passed by the U.S. Senate and House of Representatives on Sunday, March 20, 2005, and signed into law by President Bush early Monday morning on March 21, 2005.

According to lawyers for Terri Schiavo’s parents, the Bill is similar to a U.S. Senate Bill passed on Thursday “tailored to give the Federal District Court jurisdiction in the Schiavo case,” while the Bill originally proposed by the U.S. House of Representatives “sought broader legislation.”





AN ACT

For the relief of the parents of Theresa Marie Schiavo.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
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SECTION 1. RELIEF OF THE PARENTS OF THERESA MARIE SCHIAVO.


The United States District Court for the Middle District of Florida shall have jurisdiction to hear, determine, and render judgment on a suit or claim by or on behalf of Theresa Marie Schiavo for the alleged violation of any right of Theresa Marie Schiavo under the Constitution or laws of the United States relating to the withholding or withdrawal of food, fluids, or medical treatment necessary to sustain her life.

SEC. 2. PROCEDURE.

Any parent of Theresa Marie Schiavo shall have standing to bring a suit under this Act. The suit may be brought against any other person who was a party to State court proceedings relating to the withholding or withdrawal of food, fluids, or medical treatment necessary to sustain the life of Theresa Marie Schiavo, or who may act pursuant to a State court order authorizing or directing the withholding or withdrawal of food, fluids, or medical treatment necessary to sustain her life. In such a suit, the District Court shall determine de novo any claim of a violation of any right of Theresa Marie Schiavo within the scope of this Act, notwithstanding any prior State court determination and regardless of whether such a claim has previously been raised, considered, or decided in State court proceedings. The District Court shall entertain and determine the suit without any delay or abstention in favor of State court proceedings, and regardless of whether remedies available in the State courts have been exhausted.

SEC. 3. RELIEF.


After a determination of the merits of a suit brought under this Act, the District Court shall issue such declaratory and injunctive relief as may be necessary to protect the rights of Theresa Marie Schiavo under the Constitution and laws of the United States relating to the withholding or withdrawal of food, fluids, or medical treatment necessary to sustain her life.

SEC. 4. TIME FOR FILING.

Notwithstanding any other time limitation, any suit or claim under this Act shall be timely if filed within 30 days after the date of enactment of this Act.
SEC. 5. NO CHANGE OF SUBSTANTIVE RIGHTS.

Nothing in this Act shall be construed to create substantive rights not otherwise secured by the Constitution and laws of the United States or of the several States.

SEC. 6. NO EFFECT ON ASSISTING SUICIDE.

Nothing in this Act shall be construed to confer additional jurisdiction on any court to consider any claim related--
(1) to assisting suicide, or
(2) a State law regarding assisting suicide.

SEC. 7. NO PRECEDENT FOR FUTURE LEGISLATION.

Nothing in this Act shall constitute a precedent with respect to future legislation, including the provision of private relief bills.

SEC. 8. NO AFFECT ON THE PATIENT SELF-DETERMINATION ACT OF 1990.

Nothing in this Act shall affect the rights of any person under the Patient Self- Determination Act of 1990.

SEC. 9. SENSE OF THE CONGRESS.

It is the Sense of Congress that the 109th Congress should consider policies regarding the status and legal rights of incapacitated individuals who are incapable of making decisions concerning the provision, withholding, or withdrawal of foods, fluid, or medical care.


49 posted on 03/30/2005 12:36:10 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Increase Republicans in Congress in 2006!)
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To: 54skylark

From personal experience I have voted NO and lobbied against judge's in Illinois...in my case the judge who MIStrialed my cass and the criminal is now sitting in Federal prison waiting to die, along with the so-called States attorney who was to represent me


50 posted on 03/30/2005 12:36:11 PM PST by JustPiper (NoE your Enemy !!!)
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