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Useless eaters: disability as genocidal marker in Nazi Germany
Journal of Special Education ^ | Fall, 2002 | Mark P. Mostert

Posted on 03/30/2005 4:20:19 PM PST by BCrago66

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1 posted on 03/30/2005 4:20:20 PM PST by BCrago66
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"Useless eaters:"

No wonder Al Franken's worried.

2 posted on 03/30/2005 4:25:35 PM PST by elbucko (A Feral Republican)
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To: BCrago66

Dr. Mostert has an excellent multimedia presentation here:

http://www.regent.edu/admin/ctl/uselesseaters/


3 posted on 03/30/2005 4:27:53 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (L'chaim!)
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To: elbucko

Useless eaters. Nicely describes most of the dumacrats.


4 posted on 03/30/2005 4:28:08 PM PST by pipecorp ('E must be the king. Why? 'E ain't got sh@t all over 'im.)
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To: elbucko

I think Euthanesia where you specifically have authorized a professional to end your life humanely, and what the Nazis did to disabled people against their will is a red herring.
The arrogance of some people who think they know better than yourself in how you want to life or end your own life is disturbing.


5 posted on 03/30/2005 4:28:30 PM PST by rasblue
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To: LibFreeOrDie

Thanks. This article was a random google-find for me.


6 posted on 03/30/2005 4:29:22 PM PST by BCrago66
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A lot of the self-proclaimed 'smart people' have posted that the 'slippery slip' and comparisons to Nazi 'useless eater' policy detailed above is utterly ridiculous, just wild eyed nonsense from the Bible-thumpers. Oh... if only the rest of us could be so 'smart' and 'enlightened'.
7 posted on 03/30/2005 4:36:12 PM PST by AmericaUnited (Opponent of WPPFF (Wicked People Pulling Feeding Facilities))
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To: rasblue
Whether we are arrogant or not, we know very well that the health care provider you contact to scrag your old'lady, or yourself, might end up having something to do with our own health.

Frankly, I don't want you mucking up the works by tricking me about whether or not my doctor is a Killer Doc or one who adhere's to his creed as a helper.

It's been the experience of humanity over the ages that executioners can and do develop a thirst that extends beyond their initial targets.

What you guys need to do is demand the right to have access to the gurney in the federal prison at Terre Haute, Indiana. Or, simply take care of your personal problem NOW while you still can. Because of your beliefs, I promise you I won't care!

Oh, yes, take the trash out to the walk for weekly collection, and don't leave a mess all over the bathroom ceiling please. We'd like to be able to rent that place without a lot of expense.

8 posted on 03/30/2005 4:36:21 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: BCrago66

So I guess they'd have been taking a pass on Stephen Hawking. They lost Einstein as it was. Nazism is such a practical philosophy.


9 posted on 03/30/2005 4:36:53 PM PST by Still Thinking (Disregard the law of unintended consequences at your own risk.)
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To: AmericaUnited

These are the kind of condescending scum who will always stand aside in a battle between good and evil, between the innocent and those who would murder them, and declare their boredom and distaste for both sides.


10 posted on 03/30/2005 4:39:02 PM PST by BCrago66
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I have read that the Plains Indian culture left the elderly behind to die, when they became too big of a burden, to bring along.

It was understood by all parties this was a simple completion of the circle of life.

It was NOT thought of that they were murdering the elderly.

I'm not taking sides, but merely pointing out an example whereby the elderly are allowed to pass on, as part of an understood cultural practice.


11 posted on 03/30/2005 4:39:19 PM PST by truth_seeker
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The naivete of some people who think family members always have a person's best interests at heart is also disturbing. I wonder how many people have been put to sleep before their time so that an inheritance would be distributed?


12 posted on 03/30/2005 4:40:32 PM PST by thoughtomator (Order "Judges Gone Wild!" Only $19.95 have your credit card handy!)
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I have read that the Plains Indian culture left the elderly behind to die, when they became too big of a burden, to bring along.

It was understood by all parties this was a simple completion of the circle of life.

It was NOT thought of that they were murdering the elderly.

I'm not taking sides, but merely pointing out an example whereby the elderly are allowed to pass on, as part of an understood cultural practice.


13 posted on 03/30/2005 4:41:27 PM PST by truth_seeker
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I think Euthanesia where you specifically have authorized a professional to end your life humanely,

What case do you have in mind as an example of this?

The arrogance of some people who think they know better than yourself in how you want to life or end your own life is disturbing.

Agreed. For example, that Michael Schiavo claims to know how Terri wants/wanted to live or end her life has been very disturbing all along.

14 posted on 03/30/2005 4:42:11 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: AmericaUnited
A lot of the self-proclaimed 'smart people' have posted that the 'slippery slip' and comparisons to Nazi 'useless eater' policy detailed above is utterly ridiculous, just wild eyed nonsense from the Bible-thumpers. Oh... if only the rest of us could be so 'smart' and 'enlightened'.

Don't worry, no one will ever make the mistake of drawing said conclusion regarding yourself.

15 posted on 03/30/2005 4:42:53 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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I'd make a distinction euthanasia and assisted suicide. The later is what you want to allow, and if you want to kill yourself that's OK by me. If you want help in your clearly expressed desire to die, that's OK too, so long as the medical pression isn't forced to help you.

But Euthanasia occurs precisely when the victim has not clearly expressed a desire to die, but someone want to kill them anyway. It's a form of homocide.


16 posted on 03/30/2005 4:43:38 PM PST by BCrago66
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And then they want to be respected. ROFLOL! That is the liberal/leftist mindset disease. All actions are ok, we should all respect everything and everybody.... NAMBLA, Pol Pot, Stalin, child molesters, Idi Amin, Kim Il Jong, Wayne Gacie, etc.
17 posted on 03/30/2005 4:44:02 PM PST by AmericaUnited (Opponent of WPPFF (Wicked People Pulling Feeding Facilities))
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If you want help in your clearly expressed desire to die, that's OK too

So, a depressed 17 year old comes up to you and expresses a desire to die. You'd help him. Right?

18 posted on 03/30/2005 4:45:36 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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You ARE taking sides. If you want to argue for a position, that's OK, but them don't deny responsibility for your position in the same breath.

By the way, some African communities practice female genital mutiliation. That's an "understood cultural practice" too. Does that make it alright, morally?


19 posted on 03/30/2005 4:46:49 PM PST by BCrago66
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"I have read that the Plains Indian culture left the elderly behind to die, when they became too big of a burden, to bring along."

I would recommend Charles Darwin's "Voyage of the Beagle". There is a lengthy account of their encounter with the Fuegan Indians (near Cape Horn). They would catch, cook and eat granny when the fishing was poor. Of course granny would try to escape, but since she was old they could usually catch her and make her the dinner. I think that is why they called them "savages". This is a good word to certain perps in Florida right now. Beginning with the judges and mikey shiavo's lawyer.

20 posted on 03/30/2005 4:48:09 PM PST by ImpeachandRemove
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