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Useless eaters: disability as genocidal marker in Nazi Germany
Journal of Special Education ^ | Fall, 2002 | Mark P. Mostert

Posted on 03/30/2005 4:20:19 PM PST by BCrago66

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To: truth_seeker
as part of an understood cultural practice.

Yes, as I posted, that is a disease of the liberal/leftist mindset, i.e. that all cultures are equal, all ways of life are equal, all 'perversions' are equal,...

They are not! Anyone with two functional brain cells can look with their own eyes and make this determination.

21 posted on 03/30/2005 4:52:24 PM PST by AmericaUnited (Opponent of WPPFF (Wicked People Pulling Feeding Facilities))
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To: BCrago66; Interesting Times; zot

Ah yes, now all of Europe is accepting the concepts of euthnasia that were considered crimes against humanity at the end of WW2. Holland seems to be the leader, such a turn after its revulsion of Hitler during the 40s. And here in the USA, the spiritual descendants of Hitler's theories, the socialists and abortion backers are furthering his cause. How soon will we hear a call for the rehabilation of Hitler, because he lead the way in controlling health care costs and saving social security?


22 posted on 03/30/2005 4:53:24 PM PST by GreyFriar (3rd Armored Division -- Spearhead)
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To: BCrago66; truth_seeker
Don't forget other "understood cultural practices" such as bride-burning in India, human sacrifice among the Aztecs, cannibalism here and there, etc.

All worthy and interesting examples to point out and ponder over, surely.

23 posted on 03/30/2005 4:53:48 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: ImpeachandRemove
I think that is why they called them "savages".

No, no... we must show those WPPFF members savages respect

24 posted on 03/30/2005 4:53:57 PM PST by AmericaUnited (Opponent of WPPFF (Wicked People Pulling Feeding Facilities))
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To: Dr. Frank fan

I'm writting in short-hand, which is the way it works on message boards, where there isn't time to write an essay with all the nuanced distinctions. I'm saying that I would not in principal outlaw all assisted suicide (see Oregon, where there is a assisted-suicide law.) I personally would confine assisted suicide to cases such as the terminally ill, who are of sound mind to make the decision, etc.

My point was in responce to rasblue, who seemed to blurr together assisted suicide and euthanasia. You can't argue that because in some cases assited suicide is alright, therefore euthanasia is alright, because in the later case one person is killing another, regardless of the wishes of the victim.


25 posted on 03/30/2005 4:55:09 PM PST by BCrago66
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To: AmericaUnited
OOOPS

I misinterpreted your post COMPLETELY. I have proven myself the stupid one.

All apologies,

26 posted on 03/30/2005 4:55:16 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: BCrago66
I personally would confine assisted suicide to cases such as the terminally ill, who are of sound mind to make the decision, etc.

Ok.

27 posted on 03/30/2005 4:56:49 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: AmericaUnited
Two points of interest:

The History Channel showed excerpts of that Nazi euthanasia film, where a husband kills his increasingly debilitated wife. It is presented as an act of love and would fit nicely today with the murder-Terry Schiavo, and

The World at War also had a life in Nazi Germany section and they showed a film of real mentally retarded and schizophrenics and why they should be eliminated.

If anyone hasn't seen these two programs, I recommend it to them.

28 posted on 03/30/2005 4:57:41 PM PST by Stepan12
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To: Dr. Frank fan
Oh... if only the rest of us could be so 'smart' and 'enlightened'.

Ooops on my part for not including this tag

/EXTREME MOCKING SARCASM

29 posted on 03/30/2005 4:58:12 PM PST by AmericaUnited (Opponent of WPPFF (Wicked People Pulling Feeding Facilities))
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To: rasblue

The arrogance of some people who think they know better than yourself in how you want to life or end your own life is disturbing.

Yes thats disturbing isn't it, that parents who loved and raised their child to womanhood would have a arrogance even to begin to know what their child would have wanted. Totally arrogant.. tsk tsk


30 posted on 03/30/2005 5:00:26 PM PST by Gimme
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To: AmericaUnited
Ooops on my part..

Not really. Blame's all in this corner.

31 posted on 03/30/2005 5:00:55 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: AmericaUnited

I'm sure that all the leftists who are presently experienceing some kind of depraved pleasure form the murder of Terri Schiavo not only call themselves "smart" and "enlightened," but call themselves "members of the reality-based community."


32 posted on 03/30/2005 5:02:42 PM PST by BCrago66
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To: BCrago66
We have to keep medical professionals out of the euthenasia business. Nederland's current experience proves my point that when some of these guys get a taste for killing, they start doing more of it even if the rules don't allow for it.

The standard has to be that you can be a Killer or a Doctor, but not both!

We might apply that to judges and lawyers as well.

33 posted on 03/30/2005 5:15:30 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

You're likely right about that. Once a doctor gets the taste of blood, he can be almost as murderous as a bioethicist.


34 posted on 03/30/2005 5:22:01 PM PST by BCrago66
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To: BCrago66

The bioethicists are my favorites. I've always had an interest in how the shamen convinced folks in ancient times to bring their kids down for a human sacrifice, and these guys prove that it's a very easy to convince people to kill the helpless and innocent.


35 posted on 03/30/2005 5:38:31 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: BCrago66
Pardon my curiosity, but what led you to this article?

I posted a link to it in the Bloggers & Personal forum on the 27th.

36 posted on 03/30/2005 5:51:05 PM PST by Yanni.Znaio (This tagline is political. The FEC is trying to make me remove it.)
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To: rasblue

The arrogance of some people who think they know better than yourself in how you want to live your own life is disturbing.


37 posted on 03/30/2005 5:52:54 PM PST by Yanni.Znaio (This tagline is political. The FEC is trying to make me remove it.)
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To: Yanni.Znaio

Nope, but I guess great minds think alike. What happened is I wasn't sure if "useless eaters" was a Nazi or Stalinist expression, so I googled it and found the article.


38 posted on 03/30/2005 5:57:43 PM PST by BCrago66
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To: muawiyah

Save your breath. rasblue is a canadian, I believe. :)


39 posted on 03/30/2005 6:10:00 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: muawiyah
It's been the experience of humanity over the ages that executioners can and do develop a thirst that extends beyond their initial targets.

So true, as we have seen with the leftists in our own society.

It should also be noted that massive slaughters have never been halted through emotional appeals, begging for mercy, political pressure, or economic sanctions. Only overwhelming force, to the point of unconditional surrender, has worked.

40 posted on 03/30/2005 6:17:14 PM PST by meadsjn
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