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Schiavo Kin: Parents Not Wanted at Burial
Guardian ^ | 3/31/05 | MICHAEL RUBINKAM

Posted on 03/31/2005 3:02:29 PM PST by hipaatwo

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To: ace2u_in_MD

I think we are dealing with law-abiding citizens here. But is it against the law to switch the ashes?

301 posted on 03/31/2005 7:54:02 PM PST by followerofchrist
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To: HairOfTheDog

You know what, I apologize to you. It's not a personal affront to me just because someone else holds a different opinion. If I can't be civil then I won't say anything.

302 posted on 03/31/2005 8:02:22 PM PST by DameAutour
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To: lil'bit

I don't. Try Scoop 1. This FReeper is an investigative reporter with She is amazing. I would ask her, if anyone knows, she does.

303 posted on 03/31/2005 8:04:21 PM PST by Republic (My life support today -KNOWING OUR FATHER ANSWERS PRAYERS!)
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To: DameAutour
Then acknowledge when your sanctimonious "corrections" are shown to be wrong. For example, she did get married in the Catholic Church.

I wasn't sanctimonious, I was curious. Unlike everyone else here, I don't claim to know Terri Schiavo personally. It was a question. 168

304 posted on 03/31/2005 8:06:04 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: PilloryHillary

Michael is absolutely arrogant and heartless. I hope there is a special place in hell just for him.

Please NO, please; Hell is such a terrible place that you don't even want your worst enemy to rest there. He needs our prayer as well!!!

305 posted on 03/31/2005 8:13:20 PM PST by danamco
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To: hipaatwo

All I will say is that if the media doesn't follow his every movement ibncluding a trip to PA then they are showing their bias as clearly as possible. I have a feeling Sciavo has concocted a complete ruse: he goes to PA while her ashes are disposed somewhere else. Then when he is seen in PA and confronted, he'll state that her ashes are not with him but had already been "placed" somewhere else. Therefore he'll state, people won't accost his family's burial plot.

If I am right, the fact is he'll create even more animosity and his family's plot will be desecrated (the dead buried there are not guilty and so I in no way advocate such action) and therefore will create fodder for Michael to exploit.

306 posted on 03/31/2005 8:13:26 PM PST by torchthemummy ("Terrorism has less to do with economic poverty than with political poverty." - Jane Novak)
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To: HairOfTheDog

On the grounds that hospice doesn't take you unless your terminal & have less than 6 months to live.

That wasn't the case here. Terri was there for 5 yrs. Why wasn't she in a nursing home.

On the grounds that Medicaid was paying $5000 a month to this hospice for her care.

On the grounds that some of these cast of characters were on the board of directors of this hospice.

I agree that hospice care, whether at home or in a facility is a wonderful thing............just not THIS hospice.

307 posted on 03/31/2005 8:15:05 PM PST by Collier
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To: HairOfTheDog

Oh, it is my mom's cousin (not my mom) who has terminal cancer. Thank you for your sentiments, I appreciate them. I am fortunate enough to have a flexible schedule and to live down the road from her so I can help out with taking care of her and taking her to treatments. Tomorrow I am doing some shopping for her. She feels so guilty that we all are doing the things she used to do, as she has always been so selfless of a caretaker to everyone.
She was diagnosed 7 years ago with breast cancer. She had a lumpectomy and then radiation. The cancer came back and metastasized a little over a year ago. We found out after she injured her shoulder and it didn't heal. It still isn't healed (she can't use that arm at all) because of the nerve damage, and that has made matters worse. It's in her liver, lungs, chest and bones. She has been suffering daily with this ever since she started treatment again. The last few weeks she has taken a turn for the worse. Now she can't walk on her own (tumor pressing against nerves in backbone) and is probably going to be in a wheelchair really soon.
It is so hard to see this, and very depressing, but I am fighting the urge to back away because I know she needs me now the most. I have never dealt with anything like this before (I am only 36). It makes all of us so aware of our own mortality.
Each month brings new challenges to overcome. Right now, she is fighting depression and extreme guilt because everyone is bending over backwards for her. I just tell her that for her whole life, she has done the same for others, and that she is worth all the efforts we make on her behalf. The depression part, I don't know how to deal with. I just keep reminding her that her daughter is engaged to a wonderful man and that her son and his wife are trying to have children, so life goes on and she lives in them.
Unfortunately, often when cancer is in the spinal area, it goes to the brain. So I am mentally preparing for this and trying to learn what to expect.
A year ago, my work (I am self-employed) started slowing down. As a result, I have had one day a week to care for her. I believe God has arranged for this. I try to remember this blessing when I wonder why she has to suffer so badly.

Sorry to drop this all on you.

308 posted on 03/31/2005 8:16:33 PM PST by followerofchrist
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To: Non-Sequitur

And this surprised you how? The two families have been going after each other for almost 10 years now. There is no love lost between the two families, no compassion for the other side, nobody is going to kiss and make up.

Would you go kiss MS? Follow the money trail!

309 posted on 03/31/2005 8:17:22 PM PST by danamco
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To: followerofchrist

No problem at all. You won't regret a minute of the time you spend making her comfortable. It's that stuff that is really important in life.

310 posted on 03/31/2005 8:19:54 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: peyton randolph
Why not bury her next to Mary Jo Kopechne?

This deserves the highest Freeper Award of the day!!!
311 posted on 03/31/2005 8:20:21 PM PST by danamco
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To: NoBullZone

I was just saying this exact same thing to a friend of mine.

If MS allowed Terri to be re-examined, and everyone then agreed she was PVS, we would all be having a different argument.

But not matter what, IMO, she shouldn't have been starved to death.

312 posted on 03/31/2005 8:22:29 PM PST by Collier
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To: flixxx
Let's look back at this...Michael has been called a 'wife beater', 'murderer' and worse by the Schindlers and their spokesmen (the shrill Randall Terry especially and others) and it has escalated in the final days with all of the media coverage. Can anyone really expect him to forget all of this and make up. I am suprised he even will let them know what region of the country the service will be held.
As I and many others have posted before, there will be and is no good outcome from this whole episode...

Would you expect to forget if somebody was trying and succeeding in killing your own daughter? Mmmmh!!!
313 posted on 03/31/2005 8:25:40 PM PST by danamco
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To: Poohbah
I once again point out that if you spend seven years accusing someone of being a wife beater, without any evidence to back up that claim, then they're probably not going to invite you over for tea and crumpets.

Terri would often go to work with black & blue marks on her.

Terri also talked about divorcing Michael because of his cruelty.

Michaels first girlfriend, after Terri was put into the Hospice, left him because he was so mean. She in an interview said that Michael would often say to her that if she did not perform certain sexual acts on him he would tell her that he would be better of sleeping with Terri in the hospice.

She left him after a year and was stalked by Mikey for almost a year after she dumped him.

So if that is what he is...a wife beater, then why the hell does anyone take offense to calling him exactly what he is.

If all of this is true...and many people are coming out stating this as so, then we all should be calling for this guy to be prosecuted.

Check out his comments about Terri while she was starved to death.

Folks, the government starved this poor girl to death.

There is nothing we can do for her now, but we must let the government know that this will never be tolerated ever again.

If we don't, then just don't eat the soylent green.

314 posted on 03/31/2005 8:26:25 PM PST by Radioactive (I'm on the I'm radioactive)
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To: DameAutour

Is that true?

He's never going to let the parents know where he buried her???

Why won't he allow that information?

He is truly evil.

315 posted on 03/31/2005 8:36:12 PM PST by Collier
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To: silent_jonny
You can know something and still not have proof.

I'm sure Dan Rather would agree.

316 posted on 03/31/2005 8:42:23 PM PST by closet freeper
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To: HairOfTheDog

She went to mass the afternoon before she was mysteriously found lying at HINO's feet. Is that Catholic enough?

317 posted on 03/31/2005 8:43:36 PM PST by Jrabbit
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To: cherry

Rush was talking about this today.

It's on his website.

Felos was on the Board of Directors of Hospice of Florida Suncoast, which runs Woodside Hospice, for the first year of Terri's five year stay.

He resigned so it wouldn't look like a conflict.

Others are cited too. Go to and you'll find the story. It's titled media coverup.

318 posted on 03/31/2005 8:43:51 PM PST by Collier
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To: Jrabbit

Forgive my question then...

319 posted on 03/31/2005 8:45:10 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: pnz1
It is so sad....michael's days of hurting her are over...and we are here to stand in the gap for the parents.

They now know that WE KNOW and they are NO LONGER ALONE!

What they are fighting down there is HUGE.

I mean it.

And it will all come out as we work together to untangle the people who, through horrific organizations from the suncoast hospice to the scientologists to the incestuous work connections and guardian scams have TURNED the JUDICIAL SYSTEM IN PINELLAS COUNTY UPSIDE DOWN and HEADING TOWARDS HELL!

320 posted on 03/31/2005 8:48:07 PM PST by Republic (My life support today -KNOWING OUR FATHER ANSWERS PRAYERS!)
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