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Statement by Governor Jeb Bush regarding the death of Terri Schiavo
Tampa Bay's 10 News ^ | 3/31/05 | Governor Jeb Bush

Posted on 03/31/2005 7:05:48 PM PST by wagglebee

“After an extraordinarily difficult and tragic journey, Terri Schiavo is at rest. Columba and I offer our condolences to Mr. and Mrs. Schindler, Bobby Schindler, Suzanne Vitadamo and to all those who offered their prayers and support to Terri’s family over these past weeks, months and years. These prayers were not in vain.

“Many across our state and around the world are deeply grieved by the way Terri died. I feel that grief very sharply as well. I remain convinced, however, that Terri’s death is a window through which we can see the many issues left unresolved in our families and in our society. For that, we can be thankful for all that the life of Terri Schiavo has taught us.

“I still firmly believe that human life is a gift and a mystery, and that its mystery is most evident at its beginning and ending. May all of us whose hearts were moved during the life of Terri Schiavo grow in wisdom at its ending.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: idiotsonparade; jebbush; jebwasheshishands; pilatespeaks; pontiuspilate; schindler; terrischiavo; terrisdeath
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No mention of the adulterous husband.
1 posted on 03/31/2005 7:05:49 PM PST by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee



Whatever,


2 posted on 03/31/2005 7:06:43 PM PST by SouthernFreebird
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To: wagglebee

That's all folks!


3 posted on 03/31/2005 7:07:33 PM PST by Leo Carpathian (FReeeePeee!)
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To: wagglebee

or any of the schiavos


4 posted on 03/31/2005 7:08:12 PM PST by The Red Zone (Go to Florida, the sun-shame state, to be schiavoed, to greer someone, and to felos a patient.)
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To: wagglebee

5 posted on 03/31/2005 7:08:28 PM PST by Richard Kimball (It was a joke. You know, humor. Like the funny kind. Only different.)
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To: wagglebee

He had to hold his nose and choose to follow the "law".


6 posted on 03/31/2005 7:10:28 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: wagglebee

Thank you Jeb Bush for doing what you could to stand up for the life of an innocent woman with a beautiful smile when so many others couldn't wait for her demise.


7 posted on 03/31/2005 7:11:03 PM PST by floridavoter2
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To: wagglebee

OK, Governor, let me bring something else to your attention. While you were wrapped up with the Schiavo issue a nine year old girl was abducted by a man that your penal system paroled. He was a registered sex offender but that didn't stop your justice system from losing track of him. He kidnapped the girl, held her for a couple of days, and murdered her just a few hundred yards from her own bedroom. So my question is what do you have to say to Jessica's family and now that Terri Schiavo has been laid to rest do you suppose you can spare the time to come up with some fixes for your broken down justice system that might help prevent this from happening again? Please?


8 posted on 03/31/2005 7:12:33 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: All

I love how some of you just throw the Bush's overboard. The best legal minds in the world said he was powerless, period end of story.. Im more likely to believe a world class legal mind then pissed off people at freerepublic. If Jeb could do it, he would have.


9 posted on 03/31/2005 7:14:25 PM PST by Next_Time_NJ (NJ demorat exterminator)
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To: Fitzcarraldo
He didn't just choose to "follow the law" -- he's the one who signed the damn thing into law.

Go back and do some research on the basic legal premise of Michael Schiavo's case -- that under Florida law a feeding tube is considered an "extraordinary form of medical treatment" that does not have to be maintained for all patients. Most people are shocked to learn that Jeb Bush himself is the one who signed this statute into law.

10 posted on 03/31/2005 7:14:32 PM PST by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but lord I'm free.)
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To: wagglebee
One hopes that Mr. Bush is like Robert the Bruce who first supported then later left Braveheart on the killing field -- but then after hardships and struggle regained a good name and victory.

Right now the tide is massively out under his boat, by his own inaction. A very brave heart lies dead.

11 posted on 03/31/2005 7:14:34 PM PST by bvw
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To: Next_Time_NJ

See #10. Anyone who thinks Jeb Bush was just a helpless bystander in this case is delusional.


12 posted on 03/31/2005 7:15:36 PM PST by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but lord I'm free.)
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To: Fitzcarraldo

Statement of Pontius Pilate, AD 30--

“After an extraordinarily difficult and tragic journey, Jesus of Nazareth is at rest. Columba and I offer our condolences to his mother, and to all those who offered their prayers and support to his family over these past weeks, months and years.

“Many across our state and around the world are deeply grieved by the way Jesus died. I feel that grief very sharply as well. I remain convinced, however, that Jesus' death is a window through which we can see the many issues left unresolved in our families and in our society. For that, we can be thankful for all that the life of Jesus of Nazareth has taught us.

“I still firmly believe that human life is a gift and a mystery, and that its mystery is most evident at its beginning and ending. May all of us whose hearts were moved during the life of Jesus of Nazareth grow in wisdom at its ending.”


13 posted on 03/31/2005 7:16:13 PM PST by CondorFlight
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To: Alberta's Child
"I should like particularly to underline how the administration of water and food, even when provided by artificial means, always represents a natural means of preserving life, not a medical act. Its use, furthermore, should be considered, in principle, ordinary and proportionate, and as such morally obligatory."

--- Pope John Paul II

14 posted on 03/31/2005 7:16:24 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: CondorFlight

Ouch! That bites.


15 posted on 03/31/2005 7:19:04 PM PST by Publius Maximus (Compassionate Conservatism: Profligate Liberal Spending With A Conservative Rhetorical Twist)
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To: Fitzcarraldo



She wasn't even allowed food or drink by mouth and he stood by and allowed this to happen. Not an honorable man in my book.


16 posted on 03/31/2005 7:19:40 PM PST by SouthernFreebird
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To: SouthernFreebird
Not an honorable man in my book.

Or a man now realizing his horrible mistake.

17 posted on 03/31/2005 7:20:29 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: wagglebee

Possibly Jeb Bush will take this opportunity to persue a line of business more fitting with his personality. I'd suggest he'd make a fine military officer for the country of France.


18 posted on 03/31/2005 7:20:43 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Here come da king, er, judge!)
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To: Alberta's Child

"...that under Florida law a feeding tube is considered an "extraordinary form of medical treatment"..."

I think the legal term that is used if 'artificial' not 'extraordinary'.


19 posted on 03/31/2005 7:21:09 PM PST by Balata
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To: Alberta's Child
Most people are shocked to learn that Jeb Bush himself is the one who signed this statute into law.

Ping. Was he aware what it would lead to?

21 posted on 03/31/2005 7:21:57 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: CondorFlight
Hmmm, so in other words, its Bush's fault. Sounds eerily familiar. . . .
22 posted on 03/31/2005 7:23:09 PM PST by FlipWilson
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To: Fitzcarraldo
He knew exactly what it would lead to. In a state filled with retirees who will eventually cause financial chaos in their later years, this was exactly what the statute was intended to do.
23 posted on 03/31/2005 7:23:23 PM PST by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but lord I'm free.)
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To: wagglebee

Top Neurologist's Report in Terri Released: Newsmax.com
Excerpt:


"Spinal Exam: The patient's exam from a spinal perspective is abnormal. The degree of limitation of range of motion, and of spasms in her neck, is consistent with a neck injury. The abnormal sensory exam, that shows evidence of her hypoxic encephalopathic strokes (right side sensory responses are different from left) also suggests a spinal cord injury at around the level of C4. Her physical exam and videotapes also suggest a spinal cord injury is also present, as she has much better control over he face, head, and neck, than over her arms and legs. This reminds one of a person with a spinal cord injury who has good facial control, but poor use of arms and legs. It is possible that a correctable spinal abnormality such as a herniated disk may be found that could be treated and result in better neurological functioning. This should be looked for, as may be treatable. Thus, there may be an injured disk or spinal cord; the disk injury is more treatable, the spinal cord injury, if present without a disk injury, may be more difficult to treat. A person with a spinal cord injury and hypoxic encephalopathy will need different treatment and rehab recommendations than one who just has a hypoxic encephalopathic.

Interestingly, I have seen this pattern of mixed brain (cerebral) and spinal cord findings in a patient once before, a patient who was asphyxiated."

TERRI SUFFERED A SPINAL INJURY. WE WANT TO KNOW HOW!


24 posted on 03/31/2005 7:23:42 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. Link on my Page. free pdf.)
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To: Next_Time_NJ

CORRECT!


25 posted on 03/31/2005 7:23:55 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Richard Kimball

Thanks for the smile. Our hearts are heavy.


26 posted on 03/31/2005 7:24:14 PM PST by tessalu
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To: wagglebee; Alberta's Child
I remain convinced, however, that Terri’s death is a window through which we can see the many issues left unresolved in our families and in our society. For that, we can be thankful for all that the life of Terri Schiavo has taught us.

I'm no legal scholar, so I don't know what all he could have done at the point at which Terri was being put to death. But if he's responsible for signing into law the piece of legislation which led to her death, how can he reconcile his words with his deeds? And pardon me, but the italicized text is BoBo speak, if you ask me.

27 posted on 03/31/2005 7:24:55 PM PST by AlbionGirl
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To: Balata

I don't really care what the exact term in the statute is. Under Florida law, an "artificial" form of medical treatment can be terminated even if it causes the death of the patient.


28 posted on 03/31/2005 7:25:12 PM PST by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but lord I'm free.)
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To: Next_Time_NJ

Amen.


29 posted on 03/31/2005 7:25:35 PM PST by cubreporter
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To: floridavoter2
I agree with you,Thank You Jeb, ya did all ya could.
30 posted on 03/31/2005 7:25:47 PM PST by cmsgop ( Don't Forget to check out Bea Arthur in the "Menopause Monologues"  coming on NBC this fall)
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To: Alberta's Child

Borders on "Soylent Green".


31 posted on 03/31/2005 7:26:36 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Alberta's Child

I agree with you. Most sane people would not define artificial as food and water. This was obviously done to fit an agenda.


32 posted on 03/31/2005 7:28:52 PM PST by Balata
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To: Alberta's Child

Where have you been? That's been the law in many states since the Nancy Cruzan and Karen Quinlan cases.


33 posted on 03/31/2005 7:29:29 PM PST by unbalanced but fair
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To: Fred Nerks

Are records of Terri's first episode on-line? I want to see the results of any blood work and treatments administered.


34 posted on 03/31/2005 7:29:42 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: CondorFlight
This hysteria needs to stop and stop right now!

Terri wasn't Jesus,Jeb isn't Pilate, and writing such garbage helps nobody!

35 posted on 03/31/2005 7:30:02 PM PST by nopardons
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To: wagglebee
"I would've enforced the statutes if Judge Greer would've let me."

There is no rational explanation for why Jeb telegraphed the possibility of taking custody of Terri except that he hoped the judge would prevent him.

36 posted on 03/31/2005 7:32:01 PM PST by Nephi (Abortionist's arguments are based in time, but God is eternal.)
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To: nopardons

Realize starvation and dehydration probably goes on all the time and the only reason Terri came to light was the rift between families.


37 posted on 03/31/2005 7:32:13 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: unbalanced but fair
That's incorrect. The Karen Quinlan case specifically involved family members who wanted to have her removed from a true artificial means of life support (a respirator). There was never any question that the parents would keep the feeding tube in place, which is why she survived for another eight or nine years after they "pulled the plug."

The Nancy Cruzan case wasn't a state law -- it was a U.S. Supreme Court case in which the "Men in Black Robes" overturned a Missouri law that prohibited the removal of a feeding tube.

38 posted on 03/31/2005 7:33:16 PM PST by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but lord I'm free.)
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To: wagglebee

I live in FL and voted for this numbnutz


39 posted on 03/31/2005 7:33:51 PM PST by dennisw ("What is Man that thou art mindful of him")
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To: Nephi

He should have just done it and not asked permission; governors need make it clear that they have executive authority, not the judiciary.


40 posted on 03/31/2005 7:34:10 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Fitzcarraldo

Sorry, I can't help you. Try backhoe and diogenesis, both have heaps of links and info.


41 posted on 03/31/2005 7:35:58 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. Link on my Page. free pdf.)
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To: Next_Time_NJ

[Applause.]


42 posted on 03/31/2005 7:36:28 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Pro-Terri - NOT anti-Bush.)
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To: Fred Nerks

"Interestingly, I have seen this pattern of mixed brain (cerebral) and spinal cord findings in a patient once before, a patient who was asphyxiated." "

If the autopsy shows a fractured hyoid bone then MS will be in the hot seat. The implication is Terri suffered asphyxia at the hands of MS


43 posted on 03/31/2005 7:36:42 PM PST by Balata
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To: Balata
If the autopsy shows a fractured hyoid bone then MS will be in the hot seat. The implication is Terri suffered asphyxia at the hands of MS

What gets me is that MS took Terri to California for some kind of "brain implant" and they didn't do a full set of head x-rays?

44 posted on 03/31/2005 7:40:06 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: wagglebee

His team had to have been looking at the statute for a while. He should've acted on the statute cited by his attorney in that press conference the minute his brother signed the article three legislation. Jeb not only failed Terri, he failed the executive branch and damaged it in his inaction.


45 posted on 03/31/2005 7:40:55 PM PST by Nephi (Abortionist's arguments are based in time, but God is eternal.)
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To: isthisnickcool

We are the frogs and I'm ashamed.


46 posted on 03/31/2005 7:41:04 PM PST by Ben Chad
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To: wagglebee
I find it very ironic that those who are bashing the Bush's for following the law are the very ones who felt that Clinton needed to be kicked out of office for violating the law.

It seems we're only interested in "if you don't agree with the law, change it" when it's the opposition doing the violating. If we allow our emotions to override the rule of law, we're no better than they are, and I find that sickening. The very ones who want conservative judges who will uphold the constitution appear to be the ones who wanted the administration and the judges to violate the law in this mess.

I don't like that Terri Shiavo had to die. I am of the opinion that Michael Schiavo, at a minimum, contributed to her initial condition which put her in the state she was in. I think it's a shame that there appears to be no way to go after him.

I think the reason the Dems are so successful is that they don't eat their own like the conservatives do.

47 posted on 03/31/2005 7:41:46 PM PST by Real Cynic No More (Al-Jazeera is to the Iraqi War as CBS was to the Vietnam War.)
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To: Alberta's Child

When did I say any of that? I said many state laws began after those. I'm well aware of the decisions and their repercussions. And why is a respirator more of an artifical life support than say a feeding tube?


48 posted on 03/31/2005 7:42:18 PM PST by unbalanced but fair
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To: Nephi

I read all of the relevant portions of the Florida Constitution last weekend, I am absolutely convinced that he had all the authority he needed to save her life.


49 posted on 03/31/2005 7:42:55 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Alberta's Child
...under Florida law a feeding tube is considered an "extraordinary form of medical treatment"...

Agreed that's the law ... but Terri could swallow and previously took jell-o by mouth, so tell me why JUDGENFUHRER GREER, HONORABLE NAZI, refused to let her be fed by mouth? Refused ice chips? I hope JUDGENFUHRER GREER is not long for this world ...

50 posted on 03/31/2005 7:42:59 PM PST by hillary's_fat_a**
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