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When DUmmies Attack (AFN Soldier Under E-Mail Assault from DU)
Vanity ^ | 01 April 2005 | TxRadioguy

Posted on 03/31/2005 8:09:51 PM PST by txradioguy

It started out when I saw this "Letter To The Editor" in the March 22nd Stars and Stripes:

AFN needs diverse opinions

Rush Limbaugh is not of interest to all. Equal time needs to go to more moderate interests, and, failing that, to progressive ones.

I hereby launch a campaign to hear Air America once, at prime time, for every time Rush is on the air. Please let your local American Forces Network radio station know that you need to hear more than a paid announcement from the party line.

Any other point of view is absolutely necessary. Rush’s sources and motivations are highly suspect, and it would be interesting to look on White House pay records for what amounts go to the “Excellence in Broadcasting Network.”

I would also be curious as to what influence leads this broadcast to be on AFN on prime time four to five days a week, with political balance only from my fellow Texan Jim Hightower, for five minutes, buried somewhere in the early morning.

If we don’t demand freedom of choice, we won’t get it.

Emily Dolan Gordon Grafenwöhr, Germany

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And I replied with this in the March 29th Stars & Stripes:

Air America not the answer

This is in response to the letter writer who demanded “equal time” for Air America since American Forces Network broadcasts Rush Limbaugh (“AFN needs diverse opinions,” March 21). It sounds eerily like a form letter being circulated at the Liberal Web site DemocraticUnderground.com, so the editors of Stars and Stripes should be warned that more letters like this may be on the way. Let me also remind the letter writer, Emily Dolan Gordon, that the Federal Communications Commission’s “fairness doctrine” went away more than 20 years ago, so AFN, if it chooses, does not have to give “equal time” to the hate speech on Air America just to make it “fair.”

Second, why would anyone want to subject the soldiers and their family members proudly serving in all branches of the armed services to the anti-military filth that the hosts of the shows on Air America spew anyway? Besides, the liberal point of view is already disseminated on AFN through National Public Radio.

I suggest that if anyone wants to listen to their kook-theory scare-the-people diatribes, he or she should simply go to Air America’s Web site and listen for free. And if anyone dislikes listening to the things that Limbaugh has to say that much, he or she should simply exercise the greatest freedom we have as Americans, the freedom of choice, and change the channel.

Spc. John S. Wollaston Camp Casey, South Korea

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These started showing up in my mail box yesterday. The original letter writer started first:

Why don't you believe in equal time? Then you could make your own decision instead of someone else telling you what to think? I regularly listen to those I don't agree with...otherwise I'd be living in a bubble. I learn so much that way. When I'm against something or for something.. I KNOW why. When you just listen to Rush...you are just repeating his thoughts..not your own.

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Subject: Hey FreepTard

Must be nice to be sitting in the rear with the gear rather than wearing a flak jacket and web gear with the poor slobs in the Iraqi theater, huh?

Regarding your bullshit letter in S&S (and calling it bullshit is being polite):

"Second, why would anyone want to subject the soldiers and their family members proudly serving in all branches of the armed services to the anti-military filth that the hosts of the shows on Air America spew anyway?"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3380046

You obviously have never listened to Randi Rhodes. She, like me, is a veteran. She served in the Air Force. She is a staunch defender of servicemembers and their families, no matter what your masters told you.

If you weren't a knuckle-dragging freeptard, you'd know that.

Hey, maybe before you open your yap and spew your own version of hate, maybe you should open your ears and actually listen to who is saying what, who is defending who. Bush is cutting veteran's benefits. Rush tell you that? Bush sent the Army to war without body armor. Rush tell you that?

No, you'd rather drink the Bush Kool Aid and believe the lies Limbaugh spews rather than open your d*mn eyes and realize you've been conned.

Oh, and Google is our friend at Democratic Underground.

Dumbass. ---------------------------------------------------------

Subject: What Planet Are You From?

Sir: I am not sure from where your delusions stem, but let's clear up a couple of things: Air America is not 'hate speech;' it's free speech, and small balance to the right-wing venom polluting the airwaves. NPR is highly-censored, 'right-wing lite' news. Rush Limbaugh really truly honestly IS a big fat idiot (and a liar to boot). Also, you may want to get your facts straight, if you want to consider yourself in any way a 'journalist.' There is NO 'form letter' on the Democratic Underground, demanding equal time for Air America on AFN, or on any other issue. Here at Democratic Underground, we pride ourselves on being sufficiently intelligent to write our own letters, in our own words, expressing our own thoughts. In other words, we are not merely 'dittoheads.' I am sorry to hear that you consider Air America's programming to be 'anti-military filth.' You must have a pretty loose standard for what you consider to be anti-military. You must surely despise the Bush administration's cutting of funding for VA hospitals; talk about anti-military filth! And from a deserter to boot. What a black mark in American history to have a Commander in Thief who ran from duty like George W. Bush did (not to mention Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld). Your writing sounds eerily like the hate-filled rants of Rush himself. Or are you simply another paid shill for the Bush administration, like 'journalist' James Guckert/Jeff Gannon? One last thought: if you really value the freedoms of our Constitution, you might want to take a look at the way Bush has violated his oath of office in his attempts to dismantle the First Amendment.

Sincerely Yours, Minnesota Grandmother for Truth ---------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Might Wanna Look John

Your names all over the bloghs John ... Damn!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3380046&mesg_id=3380046

FIGHT WAR, NOT WARS! KILL POWER, NOT PEOPLE!

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Subject: Fatboy Limbaugh

hey, I read your little rant about the Fat, Draft Dodging, Drug Addicted, Wife Trashing Limbaugh and would like to comment.

If a US serviceman wants to change the channel what does he change it to ?

Also, your pic should be changed. I noticed you are out of uniform. I believe being overweight is out of uniform, unless the weight is all concentrated in your necks.

I would also suggest you stop being so political. When I served honorably in the USMC, unlike your draft dodging, alcoholic Commander In Chief, I was told not to be political.

So, get a life. _________________________________________________________

So this is the respone from the "Freedom of Speech" crowd when you dare speak about their beloved little SCARE America. They have been assaulting my AFN e-mail account with this crap since yesterday. I gave NO indication that I worked for AFN, in fact I wrote the letter from my computer in my barracks room. It would also appear that I'm the target of my own thread in DUmmie land. Any advice or ideas for how I should handle this would be greatly appreciated. I need the power of the FReepers to help me on this. Thanks guys.


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So I'm thinking of e-mailing the Devil himself Skinner and challenging him to let me on there to defend myself. Good idea? Bad idea?
1 posted on 03/31/2005 8:09:53 PM PST by txradioguy
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To: Jim Robinson; Kathy in Alaska; pelikan; AZamericonnie; Old Sarge; Arrowhead1952; ...

*MEGA PING*

Need your help and advice guys and ladies.


2 posted on 03/31/2005 8:13:41 PM PST by txradioguy (When liberty’s in jeopardy, I will always do what’s right...)
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To: txradioguy

I'd ignore them, trying to defend yourself against ignorant savage children is pointless...

They just want attention.


3 posted on 03/31/2005 8:14:43 PM PST by Brian328i
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To: txradioguy

You are a hard charger, do what you know you should do. ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK.


4 posted on 03/31/2005 8:15:44 PM PST by a_dem_no_more (Pray for Terri's soul and the Holy Father)
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To: txradioguy

Just tell him he's great at giving himself an eye witness colonoscopy and then watch his head explode as he tries to figure out what that means.

Don't argue with idiots...after time no one will know who is who.


5 posted on 03/31/2005 8:16:56 PM PST by Fledermaus (It is now clear the Founding Fathers were wrong: free people cannot govern themselves!)
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To: Fledermaus

"Don't argue with idiots...after time no one will know who is who."

Well they prove what I say about this letters to the editor stuff being a DU operation simply beccause ALL the responses I posted have some mention of DU or knock me for being a FReeper. Which I said nothing about in my letter.

They are a touchy bunch over there.


6 posted on 03/31/2005 8:19:03 PM PST by txradioguy (When liberty’s in jeopardy, I will always do what’s right...)
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To: txradioguy
I say bad idea. Who cares what they think TX. They are only going to say hateful stupid things to you and get you upset.

They are our enemy- I know it hurts that they also happen to be Americans.

There is nothing you will say to any of them that will change their minds-why set yourself up? Why waste your time and energy on them?

Try to remember: There but for the grace of God go I. Hang out with the people who are thankful for you and our troops.

There are more of us than there are of them.

7 posted on 03/31/2005 8:19:22 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks!)
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To: Fledermaus

There is an old saying, "don't mud wrestle a pig. It gets you dirty and the pig likes it"


8 posted on 03/31/2005 8:19:38 PM PST by Guard Dog (The strong will do what they can and the weak will suffer what they must)
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To: txradioguy; Cool Multiservice Soldier; OneLoyalAmerican; Defender2; The Sailor; Old Sarge; ...

Active duty FReeper needs help PING!!!!


9 posted on 03/31/2005 8:19:40 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Have you said Thank You to a service man or woman today?)
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To: txradioguy

Give them all a link to the DUmmie FUnnies and then let their heads explode! LOL!


10 posted on 03/31/2005 8:20:09 PM PST by LUV W (Freedom is on the march. Freedom is the birthright and deep desire of every human soul.GWB 3-29-05)
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To: txradioguy

They are beyond touchy...they are thin-skinned to the point they are going to start bleeding!


11 posted on 03/31/2005 8:20:19 PM PST by Fledermaus (I have a big truck)
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To: txradioguy
Hi Tx... I noticed you're the only one who signed their real name...

Can you play "You've Been Freeped" over the radio? With a dedication?

12 posted on 03/31/2005 8:20:51 PM PST by pelikan
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To: txradioguy
So I'm thinking of e-mailing the Devil himself Skinner and challenging him to let me on there to defend myself. Good idea? Bad idea?
It won't happen. I'd copy the worst of the worst to Stars and Stripes, along with the initial thread and perhaps their "which is worse, 9/11 or 11/02?" poll.

If Google is "their friend", how come our threads are always near the top of the search results, while theirs are near the articles that need to be translated from Korean?

-Eric

13 posted on 03/31/2005 8:21:22 PM PST by E Rocc
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To: txradioguy
I'd say leave it alone. Look at the audience you'd be talking to. If they could be persuaded by reason or facts they'd already be on your side.
14 posted on 03/31/2005 8:21:35 PM PST by Jaysun (I must warn you, I am a black belt in bullshitsu)
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Wear their idiotic attacks as a badge of pride. I actually enjoy it when I piss off some liberal idiot so badly that they have to take time to write me. It's free rent in their heads. You own a piece of them now, whether they admit it or not.


15 posted on 03/31/2005 8:22:00 PM PST by digitalbrownshirt
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To: txradioguy

First, go talk to the JAG and get some legal advice. Since they're spamming your email account, you need to ensure you don't use it to reply--then they could say you're abusing government resources. Also, as active duty, you have to watch it on some political stuff. They may be trying to get you to break some rule, etc.


16 posted on 03/31/2005 8:22:12 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: pelikan

For you...it would be a pleasure pelikan.


17 posted on 03/31/2005 8:22:23 PM PST by txradioguy (When liberty’s in jeopardy, I will always do what’s right...)
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To: txradioguy
I agree, when surrounded by the enemy, there is only one military option:

ATTACK!

Kick them in the balls. And when they beg for mercy, cut them off.

GI, remember what you were trained when you first joined this proud organization. Never, ever, allow the enemy to get the high ground.

However, if you are unable to handle a few cowardly Socialists, then I would highly advise that you never enter into combat.

18 posted on 03/31/2005 8:23:12 PM PST by Hunble
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To: E Rocc
t won't happen. I'd copy the worst of the worst to Stars and Stripes, along with the initial thread and perhaps their "which is worse, 9/11 or 11/02?" poll.

Best idea. Expose them. They hate it when that happens.

19 posted on 03/31/2005 8:23:18 PM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.)
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To: txradioguy

Geez, those folks sure aren't very tolerant of divergent views. I don't have any advice, just offer all the support I can give. HUGS!

I'm thinking that arguing with these idiots is "Casting your pearls before swine" and you know what the Bible says about that.


20 posted on 03/31/2005 8:23:50 PM PST by StarCMC (It's God's job to forgive Bin Laden; it's our job to arrange the meeting.)
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To: txradioguy
Ignore them. And post this wherever you get a chance...


21 posted on 03/31/2005 8:24:24 PM PST by SolidRedState (E Pluribus Funk --- (Latin taglines are sooooo cool! Don't ya think?))
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To: Alas Babylon!

Good point Alas! I admit I did reply to a couple of them frommy desk. But everything else has come from the barracks.

I'm going to JAG for another issus on Monday I think I'll bring this up as well.

Good to see you FRiend. Sorry I haven't been to the Sunday Morning thread in awhile.


22 posted on 03/31/2005 8:24:31 PM PST by txradioguy (When liberty’s in jeopardy, I will always do what’s right...)
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To: txradioguy
Reply to each:
"Thank you for sharing that" and nothing more. That tends to end most unpleasant conversations.
23 posted on 03/31/2005 8:24:39 PM PST by SmithL (Proud Submariner)
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To: txradioguy

You're at the Line Of Departure, Sergeant....lock and load, then give 'em hell!


24 posted on 03/31/2005 8:25:05 PM PST by Bombardier (Strategic Air Command (SAC): Mission Accomplished, but needed now more than ever!)
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To: txradioguy
While I would advise you against it, if you choose to engage the DUmmies on their own turf, it would come in handy as training for sewer warfare.

Just make sure you have all of your vaccinations up to date. You're liable to catch something Ajax won't scrub off.

Personally, I wouldn't give those scumbags air in a bottle, but thats just me.
25 posted on 03/31/2005 8:25:45 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (This tagline brought to you by Islam. Islam, only the best of the 12th century for you and yours.)
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To: txradioguy

Go for it!


26 posted on 03/31/2005 8:26:08 PM PST by sport
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To: Hunble

"However, if you are unable to handle a few cowardly Socialists, then I would highly advise that you never enter into combat."

I have more fear of the Iraqi insurgents I dealt with in IRaq than I do of a Lib/Socialist with the Google search engine.


27 posted on 03/31/2005 8:26:22 PM PST by txradioguy (When liberty’s in jeopardy, I will always do what’s right...)
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To: SolidRedState
Bush Country!

Outstanding suggestion, and I am ashamed that I did not think of that.

28 posted on 03/31/2005 8:26:58 PM PST by Hunble
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To: txradioguy

dont email skinner.
If you are recieving unsolicited hate mail from the DUmmies to a government account, they are committing a felony.
Although the legal buttheads may not do anything, you should be able to foward the most offensive emails to your comm folks and get the offending email domains blocked from your base, and if offensive enough from Army or Dod.
Sending unsolicited spam is now a felony. It's the same for offensive/harrassing emails.
When they send emails to a goverment computer system it ties up resources better used for official business.
You should be able to resolve this with your local comm folks.


29 posted on 03/31/2005 8:26:59 PM PST by axes_of_weezles (Ha!)
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To: Bombardier

HOOAH! Bombadier. Thanks.


30 posted on 03/31/2005 8:27:14 PM PST by txradioguy (When liberty’s in jeopardy, I will always do what’s right...)
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To: txradioguy
Yeah, Get Some... nice Shootin Tx!!!

is the POS that sent in the letter in the Military or just some du goon???

ya know... i remember a time when S&S was on OUR side, any more, i'm not so sure.

31 posted on 03/31/2005 8:27:16 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: txradioguy

Don't waste your time. Refer to tag line.


32 posted on 03/31/2005 8:27:48 PM PST by bigjoesaddle ("Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: txradioguy
There isn't actually a great deal of "debate" on DU, certainly not if you have the temerity to hold an opinion contrary to that of the party line du jour. If their letters sound alike it's because they're nothing but an insignificant mob of goose-steppers so immersed in groupthink that an original thought hits the place like a garlic suppository at a vampire proctology clinic.

After a certain point it becomes electronic harrassment, however, and a nice note to the DU sysop to that effect may help matters a little. But children determined to play in their own poo will find a way to do so.

33 posted on 03/31/2005 8:28:31 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: txradioguy
I have more fear of the Iraqi insurgents I dealt with in IRaq than I do of a Lib/Socialist with the Google search engine.

That Sir, is exactly what I wanted to hear from you.

34 posted on 03/31/2005 8:28:51 PM PST by Hunble
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To: txradioguy
We cleaned up those dummies in Midland, uh!

Looks like more "fun" here! LOL
35 posted on 03/31/2005 8:31:24 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Have you said Thank You to a service man or woman today?)
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To: Peach

Yet again here they go. As someone who was stationed in Europe the only channel we had was AFN. Usually their shows were a season behind. The morning shows would rotate and be shown in the afternoon, not live.

Some of the shows I hate. I would love to have them change their ways. But does it not take all kinds to make the world work. Had it been the other side would we not be demanding our voice heard.


36 posted on 03/31/2005 8:33:23 PM PST by Former Military Chick ((I'm in the WPPFF.))
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To: txradioguy

Delete, Delete, Delete.


37 posted on 03/31/2005 8:34:00 PM PST by KingofQue
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To: txradioguy

Like one of the people that replied above, I am in South Korea. We get EXACTLY one hour of Rush every day. Do you know why? Because a lefty senator complained that there was too much exposure to Rush on AFN. We get a lot of NPR, CBS and CNN on our AFN airwaves. If there is any inequity in the airing, it sure comes from the left. Besides, Rush is an established commentator throughout the USA. Air America is yet to prove that they are viable and capable of attracting an audience. These DUmmies own the AFN airwaves and have the nerve to complain. Screw em!!! Needless to say, I don't watch or listen to much AFN.


38 posted on 03/31/2005 8:35:23 PM PST by conshack
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

yeah the DUmmies are REALLY showing their "true colors" now aren't they?

I wonder if they consider their e-mails to me as their way of "supporting the troops"?


39 posted on 03/31/2005 8:36:06 PM PST by txradioguy (When liberty’s in jeopardy, I will always do what’s right...)
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To: All

I may not have said it very clearly but I do understand that with limited access to the media, there are sat dishes but still not plentiful that we end up listening or watching shows that we just do not like but how to satisfy all the viewers and listeners.

I do think their approach is well it shows their true colors and not for the reasons I would have offered.

Leave it to DU.


40 posted on 03/31/2005 8:36:14 PM PST by Former Military Chick ((I'm in the WPPFF.))
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To: txradioguy

Use the power of ignore. Drives them nuts. Well, nuttier.


41 posted on 03/31/2005 8:37:58 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: txradioguy
Ask them why are they whining at you. Last time I noticed, programing for AFN/AFRTS are decided by polls ( for the most part ) ran in the "Stars And Stripes". I don't know how they handle it now, I guess they might do it on line. They would print the poll in an annual issue and a person would mail it in. It was then sorted by APO/FPO so there could be no ballot stuffing by personnel not in the broadcast areas.

I guess they're upset that the less than one percent of libs in the military can't force the rest to listen to this drivel. Poor babies.
42 posted on 03/31/2005 8:38:22 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Pray for us all.)
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To: txradioguy

Don't you see?! The Progressives are alone to behold the historical TRUTHS! All FReepers and sheeple are mired down in a false consciousness, their feeble minds fed by a daily dose of pabulum, courtesty of the imperialist and mendacious Thought Control organs of the dictatorial Chimperor George W(armonger) McBushitler II!

But the capitalist substructure of this gruesome society is crumbling under the weight of its own contradictions, and soon the socio-cultural-political superstructure will come a-toppling down!

Then we can establish our Progressive (of course, a Marxist term meaning any change that has a net effect of moving society closer to Socialism/Communism) institutions! Once the USA is Red, all foreigners will embrace us, everyone will be happy and free, everyone will have enough food--the realization of the dreams of history's greatest poets!

And all of this has a principle cause in Air America--all stems from the aural-TRUTH that erodes the Rock of Tyranny like the Waves of the People!

/DUmmie (wow, that's really easy and fun, no wonder DU is such a popular, er, vanguard forum)


43 posted on 03/31/2005 8:38:50 PM PST by Cyclopean Squid (History remembers only what was, not what might have been.)
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To: txradioguy

Someone once said:"Never argue with idiots, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."


44 posted on 03/31/2005 8:39:05 PM PST by Ranxerox
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To: Jim Robinson; All

In case it wasn't too clear from the e-mails, the first person I wrote to and who responded to me is in Germany.

Appearently the person I replied to forwarded my e-mail to her DUmmie buddies who took offense at what I had to say. The original letter writer is in Germany. The others are coming from DUmmie HQ in the states.

JimRob thanks for the advice and for taking the time to stop by. It's always an honor.


45 posted on 03/31/2005 8:39:23 PM PST by txradioguy (When liberty’s in jeopardy, I will always do what’s right...)
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To: conshack

I thought it was the "Forced Entertainment Network" or FEN in the Pacific.


46 posted on 03/31/2005 8:39:29 PM PST by axes_of_weezles (Ha!)
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To: txradioguy
Have you thought about emailing Rush? He has a pretty big megaphone.

Stay safe, GI.

47 posted on 03/31/2005 8:39:59 PM PST by smoothsailing (Qui Nhon)
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To: txradioguy

Screw it...TEAR THEM UP. They're IDIOTS man, you'll eat 'em for lunch! Have some fun, vent some anger and go for it! You're a soldier, so I know you've dealt with worse than foul mouthed lefties:)

Do what you like, of course...but that's what I'd do! It feels good to slay liberals...real, real GOOD. Ahhhhhhhh!


48 posted on 03/31/2005 8:40:55 PM PST by Electrowoman
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To: conshack

Then you know how it is and why I said what I did con.

1 Hour of Rush on Thunder Am from 7pm - 8pm.

A healthy dose of NPR daily.

The majority of the news on AFN News comes from MSNBC and CNN with a smattering of FNC.

And this woman STILL had the audacity to say that the liberal view is NOT represented.


49 posted on 03/31/2005 8:41:23 PM PST by txradioguy (When liberty’s in jeopardy, I will always do what’s right...)
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To: txradioguy

Regardless of how you decide to handle this, you know you have lots of right-minded FRiends here who support you!

(How liberal does one have to be to consider NPR as "rightwing lite"? LOL)


50 posted on 03/31/2005 8:41:28 PM PST by Fawnn (Canteen wOOhOO Consultant and CookingWithPam.com person - Faith makes things possible, not easy.)
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