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Posted on 03/31/2005 8:48:54 PM PST by blam
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Thank you. I followed the link from another of your postings. Very interesting reading. I also believe that civilization is much older than currently acknowledged. The Sundaland read is compelling. And thanks to all for the additional links. I’ll have more to read (when I’m not at work...gotta run)
The Cuicuilco Pyramid in Mexico is another enigma. It was geologically dated to before 8,500 BC based upon the fact that it existed before the first volcanic eruption of Mount Xitli.regarding that...
Gods, Graves, and Scholars: The Story of ArchaeologyNow, several of these pyramids located at different sites from Tula to Monte Alban have been discussed, yet one of the most important has yet to be mentioned. This is the Pyramid of Cuicuilco, which stands on a mound 22.4 feet high, situated at the southern limits of Mexico City. The Pyramid of Cuicuilco rises up out of a weird landscape of darkly stony aspect. At one time the volcanoes Ajusco and Xitli (perhaps only the latter) erupted. The god within the pyramid was apparently remiss in diverting the glowing flood of lava that flowed about the pyramid, for half the structure was drowned in bubbling muck. The archaeologists investigating this phenomenon called on colleagues from another faculty, the geologists, for help. How old is the lava, they inquired. The geologists, not realizing that their answer was knocking a world picture awry, answered: "Eight thousand years." ...Yet late research is more inclined to consider it false.
by C. W. Ceram
But these things come not into the tale of the Drowning of Numenor, of which now all is told. And even the name of that land perished, and Men spoke thereafter not of Elenna, nor of Andor the Gift that was taken away, nor of Numenore on the confines of the world, but the exiles on the shores of the sea, if they turned towards the West in the desire of their hearts, spoke of Mar-nu-Falmar that was whelmed in the waves, Akallabeth the Downfallen, Atalante in the Eldarin tongue.'
He absolutely had that take.
Just updating the GGG info, not sending a general distribution.
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No offensae intended toward anyone on this forum, but that reminds me of the origins of the LDS.
At 120m BPL (fig. 1a, C 17,000 yr BP), the bulk of the Sunda and Sahul shelves were largely exposed and formed massive lowland connections between present day islands in this regions and adjacent continents. Sumatra, Java and Borneo are connected by the exposed Sunda Shelf. If one considers new continuous shelf exposed south and east of the Isthmus of Kra, an additional 1.53 million sq km of land was annexed to Southeast Asia. This area is three-fouths the present day combined area of Myanmar, Thailand, Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam, the Malay Peninsula and Singapore (2.07 million sq km) (Webster's, 19980). At 120 m BL, the total newly connected area of the Sunda Shelf (in Sumatra, Java and Borneo) exceeded 3.2 million sq km, thus increasing the contiguous area of Indo-China by about 1.5 times. In addition, the islands of Hainan and Taiwan were connected to mainland China, and Sri Lanka was connect with India. Natuna Island and the other smaller island of today's South China Sea (e.g. Anambas Islands and Tambelan Archipelago) were a part of the exposed Sunda Shelf and likely offered some significant topographic relief. Although Borneo and Palawan were not connected by a land bridge at 17,000 yr BP, the Balabac Straits were reduced to a width of only about 12 km. Sulawesi remained separated from Borneo by a narrow but very deep ocean trench. To the east the exposed Sahul Shelf broadly connected Australia and New Guinea and surround the Aru Islands.Freepmail me about this paper.
At 100m and 75m BPL (Fig. 1b, c, c. 15m000 and 13,000 yr BP), the configuration of the exposed Sunda and Sahul shelves remained very similar to the 120 m BPL arraangement and no major land connections were lost. At 75 m BLP (Fig. 1c), it is likely that one or more freshwater lakes or swamps existed at various times in depression where the Gulf of Siam is now located (Emery & Nino, 1963) and bottom cores taken off the east coast of the Malay Peninsula contained peat deposits indicating a Pleistocene peat swamp (Biswas, 1973). Furthermore, evidence of old coast lines support the presence of a brackish waster lake in the Gulf of Capentaria at about 60 m BPL (Torgensen et al,. 1985).
At 50 m BPL (Fig. 1d, c. 11,000 yr BP), extensive land bridges still connected the Malay Peninsula, Sumatra, Java and Borneo.
Thanks. I’ll review it later.
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Isn’t it near Newcastle?
I was just adding a map to this old article.
In a fiction book I am writing Sundaland is the basis for Mu. Based upon my research, Mu was the “Mother” culture, much like Churchward’s work, that had spread outward, first west, then east. The culture spread east to the America’s and eventually centered in Atlantis, while another faction spread east through Burma into India and beyond to the Med and Europe.
In my story, it is a civil war, with Atlantis faction fighting the proto-Greek faction. The end of the ice age arrives with the original Mayans succumbing as well as Atlantis.
This is not the thrust of the story, but part of the back drop of the history of man. Mankind as we know him has been around for at least 180K
years. Before that, who knows. Well, we do know that other humans walked the planet, just not homo sapiens.
The end of the ice age is perplexing indeed. It was a process that began around 12875 b.c. and culminated with a major bang around 11600 bc, according to the geology and Plato. There are other events after, such as the Berkle Crater that might account for the events 8000 years ago. (Noah’s Flood)
North America specifically the United States was catastrophe central as the ice pack sitting along out northern regions and the whole of Canada created some fantastic flooding events when was instantly melted.
I am having problems with figuring out the process. Every story likes a dramatic scene and if the end of the ice age was a 1400 year event, it is not so dramatic as say an earth wide flood and volcanos and comets and the stars falling on one’s head, so I may have to take a bit of license and do away with the geology.
If I ever get this one finished, I will let you know. It is the third in a series of stories that actually features a young girl and her two-headed turtle. Don’t ask me how it all fits, but it does. And that very same two-headed turtle is sitting in their tank just feet away. Probably sleeping at this time of night.
Anyway, your story sounds interesting, let me know when you finish it.
Sundaland would have been a perfect place for humans to thrive through-out the whole Ice Age. There was a lot if 'shifting' going on (earthquakes, volcanoes, tsunamis and etc.) due the weight of the ice and then again as it melted and released the stress. The Tibetens have stories of mountain topping waves...those have an origin somewhere, eh?
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