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Posted on 04/01/2005 5:13:08 AM PST by Rutles4Ever

(AGI) - Vatican City, Apr 1 - It has been over a month that the mass media report the Vatican opinions of the influential ecclesiastical exponents to succeed Pope John Paul II. There are now 117 cardinals who would participate to a possible conclave: it was in the last couple of days that Angolan Alexandre do Nascimento and Ecuadorean Antonio Jose' Gonzalez Zumarraga turned 80. The next cardinal to come out of the electors will be the Emeritus Patriarch of Venice, Marco Ce', who will turn 80 on July 8. The Italian contingent until then will be composed of twenty cardinals and even after Ce's leaving will still be the largest: in the cardinal college; all five continents are present numbering 66 countries, 52 of which have cardinal electors and among these besides Italy only the USA, with 11 members, exceed the threshold of ten representatives in the conclave. It is not by chance that the group of Italian cardinals is largest and this massive presence will not be non-influential in a possible conclave. Among the twenty Italian cardinals the most popular name is Milan Archbishop Dionigi Tettamanzi's.

TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS: catholic; johnpaul; pope
Interesting info regarding the makeup of the next conclave (whenever that occurs).
1 posted on 04/01/2005 5:13:08 AM PST by Rutles4Ever
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To: Rutles4Ever

I was kind of thinking that the Pope would be there to greet Terri in heaven, but Terri will get to greet him.

God, bless these souls.

2 posted on 04/01/2005 5:29:55 AM PST by GOP_Proud (Those who proclaim tolerance have the least for my views.)
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To: Rutles4Ever

It has been so long since we have witnessed this process. The world is different with cell phones (with cameras no less), the internet, blackberrys, etc. I wonder how the Vatican will cope with all the electronic prying eyes that will try to see what it going on in the conclave.

I am planning on being in Rome in a few weeks. While I pray for John Paul's recovery, I have to admit it would be quite an experience to stand in the square and watch for the puff of smoke.

3 posted on 04/01/2005 6:07:43 AM PST by rhetorica
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To: Rutles4Ever

They are a little premature to put out stuff like this.

Lucid, conscious, serene is the report I just saw on FoxNews Channel.

4 posted on 04/01/2005 6:15:49 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

Correct, but any physician will tell you this is textbook end-of-the-road with Parkinsons. The Vatican keeps its cards close to its chest. The medical statements and road closures are not publicity stunts.

Still, God has the last word. He may yet recover, but he is only human.

5 posted on 04/01/2005 6:28:26 AM PST by Rutles4Ever
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To: Rutles4Ever

The front-runner most speculated upon, Cardinal Tettamanzi, was born in 1934. The Vatican may see him as a good interim Pope after the present Pope's long tenure. Tettamanzi was appointed archbishop of Milan not too long ago, where both St. Ambrose and Paul VI were also once bishops. Tettamanzi once said, "man does not exist for globalization, but globalization for man". The present Pope approves of Cardinal Tettamanzi and that may be a factor in why his name has been suggested as a likely choice by the conclave.

6 posted on 04/01/2005 7:56:25 AM PST by Sabatier
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To: Sabatier
Cardinal D O B Nationality
AGNELO Geraldo Majella . 19-Oct-33 . Brazil
AGRÉ Bernard . 02-Mar-26 . Ivory Coast
ÁLVAREZ MARTÍNEZ Francisco . 14-Jul-25 . Spain
AMBROZIC Aloysius Matthew . 27-Jan-30 . Canada
AMIGO VALLEJO Carlos, O.F.M. . 23-Aug-34 . Spain
ANTONELLI Ennio . 18-Nov-36 . Italy
ARINZE Francis . 01-Nov-32 . Nigeria
BACHKIS Audrys Juozas . 01-Feb-37 . Lithuania
BARBARIN Philippe . 17-Oct-50 . France
BAUM William Wakefield . 21-Nov-26 . U.S.A.
BERGOGLIO Jorge Mario, S.I. . 12-Dec-36 . Argentina
BERTONE Tarcisio, S.D.B. . 01-Dec-34 . Italy
BIFFI Giacomo . 13-Jun-28 . Italy
BOZANICH Josip . 20-Mar-49 . Croatia
CACCIAVILLAN Agostino . 14-Aug-26 . Italy
CARLES GORDÓ Ricardo María . 24-Sep-26 . Spain
CASTRILLÓN HOYOS Darío . 04-Jul-29 . Colombia
CÉ Marco . 08-Jul-25 . Italy
CIPRIANI THORNE Juan Luis . 28-Dec-43 . Peru
CONNELL Desmond . 24-Mar-26 . Ireland
da CRUZ POLICARPO José . 26-Feb-36 . Portugal
DANNEELS Godfried . 04-Jun-33 . Belgium
DAOUD Ignace Moussa I . 18-Sep-30 . Syria
DARMAATMADJA Julius Riyadi, S.I. . 20-Dec-34 . Indonesia
DE GIORGI Salvatore . 06-Sep-30 . Italy
DIAS Ivan . 14-Apr-36 . India
EGAN Edward Michael . 02-Apr-32 . U.S.A.
ERDO Péter . 25-Jun-52 . Hungary
ERRÁZURIZ OSSA Francisco Javier, dei P. di Schönstatt . 05-Sep-33 . Chile
ETSOU-NZABI-BAMUNGWABI Frédéric, C.I.C.M. . 03-Dec-30 . Democratic Republic of Congo
FALCÃO FREIRE José . 23-Oct-25 . Brazil
GEORGE Francis Eugene, O.M.I. . 16-Jan-37 . U.S.A.
GIORDANO Michele . 26-Sep-30 . Italy
GLEMP Józef . 18-Dec-29 . Poland
GROCHOLEWSKI Zenon . 11-Oct-39 . Poland
HAMAO Stephen Fumio . 09-Mar-30 . Japan
HERRANZ Julián . 31-Mar-30 . Spain
HUMMES Cláudio, O.F.M. . 08-Aug-34 . Brazil
HUSAR Lubomyr, M.S.U. . 26-Feb-33 . Ukraine
JAWORSKI Marian . 21-Aug-26 . Ukraine
KASPER Walter . 05-Mar-33 . Germany
KEELER William Henry . 04-Mar-31 . U.S.A.
KITBUNCHU Michael Michai . 25-Jan-29 . Thailand
LAW Bernard Francis . 04-Nov-31 . U.S.A.
LEHMANN Karl . 16-May-36 . Germany
LÓPEZ RODRÍGUEZ Nicolás de Jesús . 31-Oct-36 . Dominican Republic
LÓPEZ TRUJILLO Alfonso . 08-Nov-35 . Colombia
LOZANO BARRAGÁN Javier . 26-Jan-33 . Mexico
LUSTIGER Jean-Marie . 17-Sep-26 . France
MACHARSKI Franciszek . 20-May-27 . Poland
MAHONY Roger Michael . 27-Feb-36 . U.S.A.
MAIDA Adam Joseph . 18-Mar-30 . U.S.A.
MARCHISANO Francesco . 25-Jun-29 . Italy
MARTÍNEZ SOMALO Eduardo . 31-Mar-27 . Spain
MARTINI Carlo Maria, S.I. . 15-Feb-27 . Italy
MARTINO Renato Raffaele . 23-Nov-32 . Italy
McCARRICK Theodore Edgar . 07-Jul-30 . U.S.A.
MEDINA ESTÉVEZ Jorge Arturo . 23-Dec-26 . Chile
MEISNER Joachim . 25-Dec-33 . Germany
MURPHY-O’CONNOR Cormac . 24-Aug-32 . Great Britain
NAPIER Wilfrid Fox, O.F.M. . 08-Mar-41 . South Africa
NICORA Attilio . 16-Mar-37 . Italy
O’BRIEN Keith Michael Patrick . 17-Mar-38 . Great Britain
OBANDO BRAVO Miguel, S.D.B. . 02-Feb-26 . Nicaragua
OKOGIE Anthony Olubunmi . 16-Jun-36 . Nigeria
ORTEGA Y ALAMINO Jaime Lucas . 18-Oct-36 . Cuba
OUELLET Marc, P.S.S. . 08-Jun-44 . Canada
PANAFIEU Bernard . 26-Jan-31 . France
PASKAI László, O.F.M. . 08-May-27 . Hungary
PELL George . 08-Jun-41 . Australia
PENGO Polycarp . 05-Aug-44 . Tanzania
PHAM MINH MÂN Jean-Baptiste . 01-Jan-34 . Viêt Nam
POLETTO Severino . 18-Mar-33 . Italy
POMPEDDA Mario Francesco . 18-Apr-29 . Italy
POUPARD Paul . 30-Aug-30 . France
PUJATS Janis . 14-Nov-30 . Latvia
PULJICH Vinko . 08-Sep-45 . Bosnia-Herzegovina
QUEZADA TORUÑO Rodolfo . 08-Mar-32 . Guatemala
RATZINGER Joseph . 16-Apr-27 . Germany
RAZAFINDRATANDRA Armand Gaétan . 07-Aug-25 . Madagascar
RE Giovanni Battista . 30-Jan-34 . Italy
RIGALI Justin Francis . 19-Apr-35 . U.S.A.
RIVERA CARRERA Norberto . 06-Jun-42 . Mexico
RODRÍGUEZ MARADIAGA Oscar Andrés, S.D.B. . 29-Dec-42 . Honduras
ROUCO VARELA Antonio María . 24-Aug-36 . Spain
RUBIANO SÁENZ Pedro . 13-Sep-32 . Colombia
RUINI Camillo . 19-Feb-31 . Italy
SANDOVAL ÍÑIGUEZ Juan . 28-Mar-33 . Mexico
SARAIVA MARTINS José, C.M.F. . 06-Jan-32 . Portugal
SCHEID Eusébio Oscar, S.C.I. . 08-Dec-32 . Brazil
SCHÖNBORN Christoph, O.P. . 22-Jan-45 . Austria
SCHWERY Henri . 14-Jun-32 . Switzerland
SCOLA Angelo . 07-Nov-41 . Italy
SEBASTIANI Sergio . 11-Apr-31 . Italy
SEPE Crescenzio . 02-Jun-43 . Italy
SHIRAYANAGI Peter Seiichi . 17-Jun-28 . Japan
SIMONIS Adrianus Johannes . 26-Nov-31 . Netherlands
SIN Jaime L. . 31-Aug-28 . Philippines
SODANO Angelo . 23-Nov-27 . Italy
STAFFORD James Francis . 26-Jul-32 . U.S.A.
STERZINSKY Georg Maximilian . 09-Feb-36 . Germany
SUÁREZ RIVERA Adolfo Antonio . 09-Jan-27 . Mexico
SZOKA Edmund Casimir . 14-Sep-27 . U.S.A.
TAURAN Jean-Louis . 05-Apr-43 . France
TERRAZAS SANDOVAL Julio, C.SS.R. . 07-Mar-36 . Bolivia
TETTAMANZI Dionigi . 14-Mar-34 . Italy
TOPPO Telesphore Placidus . 15-Oct-39 . India
TUMI Christian Wiyghan . 15-Oct-30 . Cameroun
TURCOTTE Jean-Claude . 26-Jun-36 . Canada
TURKSON Peter Kodwo Appiah . 11-Oct-48 . Ghana
VIDAL Ricardo J. . 06-Feb-31 . Philippines
VITHAYATHIL Varkey, C.SS.R. . 29-May-27 . India
VLK Miloslav . 17-May-32 . Czech Republic
WAMALA Emmanuel . 15-Dec-26 . Uganda
WETTER Friedrich . 20-Feb-28 . Germany
WILLIAMS Thomas Stafford . 20-Mar-30 . New Zealand
ZUBEIR WAKO Gabriel . 27-Feb-41 . Sudan
7 posted on 04/01/2005 3:21:53 PM PST by BigEdLB (BigEd)
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MAIDA Adam Joseph . 18-Mar-30 . U.S.A.

I received my Confirmation from him at age 29. I had never before and have not since seen eyes like that. I am not overly religious, never have been, probably never will be but it was honestly incredible.

8 posted on 04/01/2005 3:27:22 PM PST by ShadowDancer (As for the types of comments I make,sometimes I just, By God,get carried away with my own eloquence.)
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To: Rutles4Ever
Conclave: Pope's 'electoral college' has moral values, no exit polls

Rome's Next Choice? [TIME: "Arch-Conservative" Ratzinger is top Papabile]

Lent in the Vatican: The Pope, the Curia, and the Conclave ( Who's On First )


Papal Transition (what happens between one pope and the next)

Vatican Bracing for Papal Succession

When Sad Day Comes, Eyes of World Will Be on Papal Selection [How next Pope will be chosen]

Mahony Flies To Rome For Solemnities, Conclave (Cardinal from Los Angeles to Visit Vatican)

Papal Election and Succession

9 posted on 04/02/2005 7:17:23 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: rhetorica

I highly doubt that the electronic age will"pry into" the conclave for two reasons

1)There's too much respect for the duties the cardinals have in front of them

2) The Italian people will not allow it.

10 posted on 04/03/2005 2:21:14 PM PDT by phillyvic
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