Skip to comments.Poll Shift on Terri's Death
Posted on 04/01/2005 7:42:27 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
Public opinion may be shifting on the decision to disconnect Terri Schiavo's feeding tube and starve her to death, according to a new Fox Opinion Dynamics survey - with a significant percentage of Americans now saying it was "murder."
When asked about the "decision to remove" Schiavo's feeding tube, 38 percent of Americans told Opinion Dynamics that they disagreed with the decision, with 42 percent backing the move.
A full 20 percent said they were unsure.
A widely circulated ABC News poll last week asked if it was right to pull Schiavo's feeding tube, noting that she's been "on life support for 15 years" with a condition that is "irreversible."
Phrasing the question like that, 63 percent backed the decision to remove her tube, with 28 opposed.
In perhaps the most startling finding on the survey, fifty percent of African Americans told Opinion Dynamics that removing Schiavo's feeding tube was "an act of murder."
Thirty-nine percent of Republicans agreed. Even among Americans under 30, more than a third of the population [35 percent] believe that Schiavo was murdered.
Opinion Dynamics surveyed 900 registered voters on March 29-30, the day before Schiavo died.
Gee, maybe they got the facts straight on this poll!
Once people find out the facts about this case, their mind quickly changes. When one finds out that MS waited 7 YEARS to say that his wife wanted to die and that he went to nursing school to take care of her when he apparently knew she did not want to live...etc...just too many unanswered questions....
The politicians who did not intervene are going to find out that the public thinks they abetted in murder.
Which they did.
Well, isn't that nice that they all realized this AFTER she died?!
Maybe they allowed people who weren't DNC employees to be polled.
What we needed WHEN TERRI WAS ALIVE was for a huge public clamor calling it what it was....murder.
Or a political leader(read Jeb) with the stones to just do it and let the handwringers sort out the "constitutional crisis".
You're absolutely right...every ignorant co-worker to whom I explain the facts quickly change their minds!
Ahh yes polls. This same one was posted here yesterday, except with the accompanying Fox story that stated: "By an overwhelming majority, Americans viewed removing the feeding tube as an act of compasion." Funny how when you change the accompanying story, suddenly the poll takes on new meaning. Still, many here yesterday noticed the trend that this Newsmax story now reports.
A co-worker has a wife that's a nurse. She says that most of the poor souls in hospices are put on feeding tubes because they tend to aspirate (suck food/liquid into the lungs) and need to be taken to a hospital when it happens. The families get upset and get the lawyers involved and....well, you know the rest of the story.
I knew two weeks ago that the worm would turn - just as soon as Terri's cold body was wheeled from the hospice room.
I surfed the news shows last night. I detected a pro-Terri trend. A little late, though.
Me too. Even my mother, when I told her the facts, she quickly changed her mind. Especially when I told her that these same people are coming after the alzheimers patients next, which my grandmother is one, that really got her going.
So did my husband when I gave him some background.
There are some who are blind and chose not to hear.
Quote: "NewsMin really obfuscates the "murder" question. If you look at the original FOX News story instead of the NewsMin reinterpretation, 29% of individuals polled considered removal murder, versus 54% calling it an "act of mercy"."
As I said above, that is the funny thing about polls, the accompanying stories seem to push toward one direction or another. All Newsmax did was take the poll and lead with a different trend than Fox did.
I hope this is the beginning of the end for the judicial tyranny.
I also bet the final action of not letting her family be with her when she died got folks wondering about the "facts" previously presented.
That's all NewsMax does with 75% of their stories. They take a mainstream article and carve out the parts that make conservatives look good, and retitle the story. As a result a lot of context is lost. I think most people are intelligent enough to read mainstream articles and cancel out the liberal bias in their own minds. In this particular instance, the FOX story gives a lot more information, by clearly posting the results for each question. NewsMax (or Min as i call it) just strips out certain numbers.
All depends on how the question is worded.
Seriously...when the question says "Do you support torturing someone's eternal soul by trapping them in a near-dead body?" then you tend to get a lot of "NO"
They most definitely lost their nerve. And the loss of that nerve will reverberate in upcoming judicial edicts that will not be able to be challenged because of this precedent.
How are they going to passionaltely and believably fight against gay marriage, when they were so impotent when it came to defending life? What is that Scipture that says a good woman is worth more than rubies, etc? Well same goes for great Leaders.
We really need a book on this, and maybe a movie.
The news media have assiduously distorted the facts, as usual.
We also need a full and careful autopsy, given all the charges and the seeming evidence of spousal abuse. I have some hopes that the new coroner appointed by Jeb Bush in 2000 may be an honest man.
This is sooo predictable.
Just wait for the tv movie.
And when man becomes God, bad things happen.
That trend may have been just the perceived "obligatory" show of compassion for the families of the deceased. I will never trust or even "listen/watch" the msm!!
Most if not all "poor souls in hospices" are there because they have some terminal illness and there is little hope of them surviving very long. That is what a hospice is for: to care for people who are dying. The mere fact that Terri was in a hospice at all when she was not terminal is all you need to know about Michael Schiavo's intentions from the get-go.
It's all about how you phrase the question.
Is there any way you all can think of that we can make our access to the truth more easily available to the majority of the public? How can we do the job of the MSM and have people understand that the truth is the truth whether or not it comes from the internet or from the TV?
"Joe Ford, a Harvard undergraduate with severe cerebral palsy: "Like many others with disabilities, I believe that the American public, to one degree or another, holds that disabled people are better off dead. To put it in a simpler way, many Americans are bigots. A close examination of the facts of the Schiavo case reveals not a case of difficult decisions but a basic test of this country's decency."
Who Will Remember Terri?
By JAMES TARANTO
April 1, 2005; Page A10
It was inconscionable to count in the poll people who couldn't pass a basic "Terri test" to make sure those knowing the full situation were the ones being included in the survey.
More knowledge, less support for judiciary-sponsored murder.
Wasn't in medieval times that it wasn't that bad a crime to murder an unsatisfactory spouse?
I really believe that Terri knew that her hanging on so long was opening the eyes of so many people to how outrageously out of control the government is, and how unwilling our leaders are to do their job.
Terri's in a better place, where satanic forces can't keep her from a family that loves and cares for her.
The poll question should be "if you were in Terri's situation, would you want to be starved to death". It's easy to say you would not want to live that way. But choosing to be starved to death is another matter.
Yes, the news services did not report the full facts, and they worded the question in an effort to get the response that they wanted. There were many people involved in the death of Terri Schiavo, and some of them were completely ignorant of what was going on.
Most people just did not know the reputation of the man, calling himself "husband", who was trying to get Terri put to death, for he wanted her out of the way. Cohabiting with another woman and having two children with her, he had no need for Terri, and she was just in his way of getting what he wanted.
In your wonderful example, taking the time to highlight the true facts, 29% considered it murder, no non-relateds in this case. Only 54% viewed it as otherwise.
So in the comparison, 70%+ of smokers do not die of cancer related diseases, yet big government forces the 30% down our throats. And in your case, backwards, you insist on disregarding the 29% and pushing the meager 54%. I guess whatever fits best.
Rush Limbaugh played yesterday the tapes of Mr. Schindler asking Terri:
Do your ears hurt?
Do your legs hurt?
Does your stomach hurt?
Several questions like that. After each one, Terri responded with what sounded like a long, drawn-out 'O-o-o-o-o.'
After the clip, Rush said, 'that sounds like responsiveness to me.'
I had to agree. It was the first time I had heard those, and it made me sick. She was killed.
Well said. I will never understand how some on FR could defend Michael knowing that he was shacking up with another woman.
How on earth could he have had Terri's best interest at heart?
I think he went to nursing school so he could find out how to make sure she never recovered enough to tell people what he did to her.
Maybe people started picking up bits and pieces of facts instead of what most of the media has been saying.
"The politicians who did not intervene are going to find out that the public thinks they abetted in murder."
But the accomplices to the murdering judges and Pontius Pilate politicians are the individual Americans who, in their ignorance, initially supported the murder.
In their quite-vincible ignorance, most Americans share culpability. May God forgive our nation.
I would put nothing past that man.
Most people that voted on that original pole probably had no clue about what was really happening and her condition.
I'd be willing to bet they thought she was terminal and it was about pulling the plug in that kind of situation.
Right here in Tampa, the newspapers are so pro killing Terri I couldn't buy one while this is going on. (And not after, either)
The St. Petersberg Times has been running poor Michael and brave, brave judge Greer articles for weeks now. The editorials have been how dare anyone deny Terri her right to die.
It has also treated us to lovely articles like, "The other woman in Michael Schiavo's heart" and trashed the Schindler family viciously.
So I basically expect the people I meet not to know the facts.
You would think that would matter. But I believe people are so far removed from the physical death of others that they don't even understand how terrible starvation is. I'm not an anti-technology nut but I do think our current lifestyle has removed us from the basics of inter-human relationships at many points. Most of the time people go someplace to die. Only those that go quickly are usually at home today. Our society has lost it's ability to interact face to face.
Yeah. We don't get too many conservative radio talk shows where I am. My mom happened to be listening to a local liberal talk show host who had been supportive of and sympathetic to Michael Sciavo. This woman said that if he really didn't allow her family to be with her when she died that she would have to revise some of her opinions about him.
They just got the question right!