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Material Girls: How Feminism Betrayed Terri Schiavo
BreakPoint ^ | March 31, 2004 | Leslie Carbone

Posted on 04/01/2005 2:54:16 PM PST by Mr. Silverback

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To: Mr. Silverback

=== For starters, there's the 20 million little girls they helped kill in the abortuaries...


If we're talking 40-45 million unborn slaughtered by legal abortion, I'd peg the number of female children substantially higher than the number of male children.


After all, the GOP didn't discover in 1970 a "right" to predetermine the sex of children for nuttin'.


41 posted on 04/01/2005 5:35:46 PM PST by Askel5 ( Theresa Marie Schindler, Martyr for the Gospel of Life, pray for us )
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To: Mr. Silverback
Excellent article. Well said.

If the situation were reversed, and Michael was lying in the hospital bed, I bet Terri would have fought to keep him alive, to give him rehab, to do the right thing.

Many men, unfortunately, have a "practical" side to them that allows them to rationalize making a cold, hard decision to let an inconvenient person die.

42 posted on 04/01/2005 5:41:21 PM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

I was referring to your quote regarding "Self" and my comparison to the feminist. Guess I didn't do such a good job.


43 posted on 04/01/2005 5:48:53 PM PST by Snoopers-868th
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To: Mr. Silverback
“’I’m going to be rich!’” he would exclaim, and “talk about all the things he would buy when Terri died, which included a new car, a new boat” and a trip to Europe.

If I were determined to sell my soul, I'd at least make it a world cruise.

44 posted on 04/01/2005 5:54:51 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Esther Ruth

I am glad this got written. I tried very hard to find the words but kept hitting a wall. Surely by NOW we put no credibility in the "women's movement" or a la Bill Clinton "only if she's walking
away (!)".


45 posted on 04/01/2005 6:06:34 PM PST by Republican Babe (Render Michael Jackson)
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To: yankeedame

I agree. Being a man and being married to the same lady for almost thirty five years now I understand some things well. Feminism isn't for Women. You ladies out there that are great women know who you are and the men that know you know that you are great women. In my mind men and women are different though they are equal. The world needs men and it needs women. The communist faction that wants to have some women think that women are being put in second place is wrong and it is only causing trouble. Ladies, the ones of you out there that standby your man and that your man stands by you are the Best of the Best. God Bless You and you are great ladies.


46 posted on 04/01/2005 6:22:40 PM PST by JOE43270 (JOE43270 America voted and said we are One Nation Under God with Liberty and Justice for All.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
It is often asked why the feminists aren't involved in obvious issues affecting a woman or women in general. The answer is simple. The feminists exist for one reason, to cause division and class warfare in the USA. Same with the NAACP and the ACLU. I know we often ask where these folks are, or are not, simply to illustrate their hypocrisy, but we should never expect them to live up to their stated goals or misleading names.

The left works incrementally, one small step at a time, until over time they have reached their goal of domination. Like a predator sneaking up on prey, the prey often becomes aware only after it is caught. That is why we must be like prey, ever vigilant with eyes open, with ears perked, and sniffing the wind. We should already have caught many alarming scents, seen many a brush move, and heard many a twig snap. Are we just going to go back to grazing or are we going to rout the predator by overwhelming him?
47 posted on 04/01/2005 7:20:03 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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To: perfect stranger

Thank you. An acquanintance of mine from my high school days got this book about Wallflowers, ppl who just sit or stand around observing things without comment.

There is alot to be learned by observing everything.


48 posted on 04/01/2005 8:12:34 PM PST by Killborn (Liberals. The greatest threat to mankind, morality, civilization, cute puppies and fuzzy bunnies.)
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To: Askel5
If we're talking 40-45 million unborn slaughtered by legal abortion, I'd peg the number of female children substantially higher than the number of male children.

One hundred and five boys are conceived for every one hundred girls. Unless a large number of abortions are performed specifically to destroy female children, there are more boys killed by abortion than girls.

49 posted on 04/01/2005 9:01:57 PM PST by exDemMom (Death is beautiful, to those who hate their own lives.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Alan Guttmacher, then president of the Planned Parenthood Federation of America, hailed the U.S. Supreme Court's verdict in Roe v. Wade as bringing the nation "a step further toward assuring the birthright of every child to be welcomed by its parents at the time of its birth".

As though the killed children could just line back up in the queue?

50 posted on 04/01/2005 9:04:43 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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To: Mr. Silverback
Alan Guttmacher, then president of the Planned Parenthood Federation of America, hailed the U.S. Supreme Court's verdict in Roe v. Wade as bringing the nation "a step further toward assuring the birthright of every child to be welcomed by its parents at the time of its birth".

When I was in high school, soon after Roe vs. Wade, there was a large Planned Parenthood poster in the girls' bathroom, showing a pregnant woman with the words, "It is unfair to babies to force them to be born unwanted."

51 posted on 04/01/2005 9:05:59 PM PST by exDemMom (Death is beautiful, to those who hate their own lives.)
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To: JOE43270
The communist faction that wants to have some women think that women are being put in second place is wrong and it is only causing trouble.

Actually, has it not always been the case that the woman is in charge of the household and the family? Sure, the man traditionally is the breadwinner, but the wife is in charge. It's a huge responsibility, but how does it put women in second place?

52 posted on 04/01/2005 9:11:08 PM PST by exDemMom (Death is beautiful, to those who hate their own lives.)
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To: Killborn
An acquanintance of mine from my high school days got this book about Wallflowers, ppl who just sit or stand around observing things without comment.

Hey! I resemble that!

53 posted on 04/01/2005 9:12:54 PM PST by exDemMom (Death is beautiful, to those who hate their own lives.)
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To: exDemMom

I take it you learned a lot, too much even. It's amazing wwhat ppl say when they out in public and think ther's no one else there but them. ;)


54 posted on 04/01/2005 9:16:46 PM PST by Killborn (Liberals. The greatest threat to mankind, morality, civilization, cute puppies and fuzzy bunnies.)
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To: Killborn; Mr. Silverback

And I doubt that many of those who would not want a feeding tube *would* want a judge to threaten to arrest anyone who offered them ice chips or a sip of water by mouth or any nutrition or hydration by "natural means."

The refusal of an implanted feeding tube might (in certain, very clear cases), be ethical, but the prohibition of natural feeding is murder, plain and simple.


55 posted on 04/01/2005 9:19:28 PM PST by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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To: hocndoc

And that is a fact that I'm sure everyone on FR will agree. The distinction is, however, is it legal or moral murder? Now personally, I believe euthanasia is a massive display of the lack of faith in modern medical technology and playing God on an unconscionable scale. But others might disagree. Some see euthanasia as humane, especially if it involves prolonged suffering.

Imagine that Michael isn't a scum bag, that Terri did want to die. What now? Should this be legal? Is it moral? What would our Founding Fathers think? Then this is where "facts" come in to play. Certain things are absolutes. But there is also a lot in life that falls into that annoying and confusing gray area.


56 posted on 04/01/2005 9:30:39 PM PST by Killborn (Liberals. The greatest threat to mankind, morality, civilization, cute puppies and fuzzy bunnies.)
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To: exDemMom
Unless a large number of abortions are performed specifically to destroy female children,


Most abortions are done simply to get rid of the child, regardless. Many abortions are obtained to rid a defective. I'd wager the rest are a matter of sexual preference.

In fact, once you factor in the US's yeoman's work in extending "women's healthcare" worldwide, I'd say it's probably the leading cause of abortion in many nations where they still are open to normal-sized families but prefer sons to daughters.

Because China has probably the most draconian population control policies on the planet, I suspect the underlying demographics that are muddled or vary a bit in other nations reach an extreme there. The disparity between men and women is too drastic for words in a nation where you only get the one choice and must pay dearly for a second child.

But this study, although it is centered on the experience in India is interesting (and applicable) in many respects. I find it fascinating, for instance, that one region actually outlawed amniocentesis for the simple fact that too many female fetuses were being aborted when it was used simply for sex selection.

57 posted on 04/01/2005 10:27:37 PM PST by Askel5 ( Theresa Marie Schindler, Martyr for the Gospel of Life, pray for us )
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To: exDemMom
If you'll indulge me a second -- you make a point about the natural division of labor between men and women I wish to address.

But first -- and this is new to me! -- I think it's important to realize that , indeed, sex selection can be made at the 4-8 cell stage of a human life!! Did you know that? I didn't know that!

A slate of interesting articles on sex selection here.

So ... by the fourth cell, it's possible to tell whether the new life is male or female. Did you know that the natural division of labor between men and women is written in the first cell? While both are critical, I don't think that my vaunted reputation as misogynist will be damaged unduly if I point out that Dr. LeJeune is not a sort to throw words like "genius" around loosely ...

Now what is a human being? That's very simple. A human being has to be human, has to be a being. Then a human being is only a member of our species.

An egg of a chimpanzee can't be a human being because it is a chimpanzee being. But every time that genetic information is human, every time that this message which is at the beginning of life which is alive and which is life, as soon as this message is really a human message, then this life is a human life.

And if it is a being, this being is a human being.... Now it is what is meant by the methylation processes, the message is well-written and everything is written to make a human being, to be a human being.

But at the moment of fecundation, part of the DNA coming from father is underlined in the male way, and the DNA coming from mother is underlined in the female way. And, therefore, the fantastic discovery was never expected ten years ago. Nobody predicted it--that, in fact, the father underlines instructions to make immediately the membranes inside which the embryo will develop itself, so to speak, its space capsule; and to make the placenta which is the body by which it will take the nutrients from the vessels of mother.

That's underlined on the sperm, not on the egg. But on the egg what is underlined is all the tricks of the trade to make the spare pieces, which if they are put together will build an individual.

Now it is extraordinary because it was a moving observation for geneticists to see in this one millimeter and a half sphere of living being this separation of the tasks which we see in ordinary life. And the man in biology builds the membranes which is the shelter and the placenta which is a gathering food system. On the other hand it is up to the feminine genius to underline the way how to manufacture a baby.

And all that is written in the first cell.

I hope you don't mind the long-ish quote. But I love to read it over and over. It's just beautiful. Facts can be ugly sometimes. But the truth, at heart, always is beauty.

Doctor Jérôme Lejeune, R.I.P.

58 posted on 04/01/2005 11:07:51 PM PST by Askel5 ( Theresa Marie Schindler, Martyr for the Gospel of Life, pray for us )
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To: Mr. Silverback

bttt


59 posted on 04/01/2005 11:41:46 PM PST by lainde
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To: Killborn

I do not think it would have been right to murder Terri Schihavo, even if she had wanted to die. I know plenty of people who planned suicide and did not go throught with it, and now they so glad that they lived. No, murderers are just not acceptable and not needed. It is better to save life than to kill.


60 posted on 04/02/2005 1:13:49 AM PST by tessalu
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