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Canada: Election chatter grows amid talk of devastating Gomery testimony( Testimony banned)
Canadian Press ^ | 03/01/05 | Alexander Panetta

Posted on 04/01/2005 10:51:55 PM PST by Pikamax

Election chatter grows amid talk of devastating Gomery testimony

Alexander Panetta Canadian Press

April 1, 2005

Former Prime Minister Jean Chretien arrives back at his office following lunch in Ottawa Friday. New testimony at the Gomery inquiry, that cannot be revealed because of a publication ban, is considered so devastating that it has political parties discussing the possible collapse of the Liberal minority government and an election call. Chretien was Prime Minister during the time of the sponsorship scandal. (CP PHOTO/Tom Hanson)

OTTAWA (CP) - Explosive new testimony before the sponsorship inquiry had political parties banging their election drums Friday and discussing the possible collapse of the minority Liberal government.

The new testimony at the Gomery inquiry cannot be revealed because of a publication ban but is considered so devastating to the Liberal government that it has all parties looking at election scenarios.

As opposition parties eyed a possible election call with mounting enthusiasm, one Liberal MP with a safe seat said he was asked Friday to contact neighbouring ridings where the party needs help organizing local campaigns.

But officials in the Prime Minister's Office said no such instructions had gone out and insisted any election call would be the fault of the opposition.

All parties avoided speculating aloud about the likelihood of a spring campaign, and their silence was about more than just fear of violating the publication ban.

Nobody wants to appear eager for an election campaign now because once the writ is dropped, the government and opposition parties plan to blame each other for dissolving the minority Parliament.

The blame game began quietly Friday as the various actors accused each other of hankering to pull the plug.

"Our election readiness went up 20 per cent today," said one Liberal MP, who asked not to be named.

The accepted wisdom that the opposition Tories and NDP don't want an election since they're still less popular than the Liberals has been turned on its head by the steady stream of revelations before the inquiry headed by Justice John Gomery.

The Bloc Quebecois has sounded most willing to fight an election, and could easily topple the government if supported by the other parties in a confidence vote this month.

But the Liberal MP predicted the minority government would survive the spring because, he said, the parties will likely strike a deal on a critical budget vote.

Conservatives warned privately, however, that even if the budget bill passes this month, another legislative tool like a non-confidence motion could be used to trigger an election.

Nobody would say that publicly.

The Tory justice critic, well aware that the punishment for violating a publication ban includes possible jail time, had little to offer.

"All I can say is that given what was said yesterday (Thursday before Gomery) the political landscape may be changing quite rapidly," MP Vic Toews said.

That changing landscape was evident as Prime Minister Paul Martin and Conservative Leader Stephen Harper both spent the day in British Columbia, which will be a key battleground in any future election campaign.

Both men refused to be drawn into speculation when asked whether Thursday's testimony would be grounds for an election.

Before making any decision, Harper and his officials must first find out when the publication ban will be lifted on testimony delivered Thursday by Montreal ad executive Jean Brault.

The ban could theoretically be lifted at any time but depends largely on developments in Brault's own criminal-fraud trial.

Lawyers for the former Groupaction boss appeared in a Montreal courtroom asking that his trial be delayed until September. A decision is expected next Wednesday.

The NDP accused the Liberals of planning to orchestrate their own defeat in Parliament so they can rush into a campaign now, before additional revelations come before the sponsorship inquiry.

By loading the budget bill with a Kyoto accord measure sure to be opposed by the Tories, Martin is trying to force his own defeat, said an NDP strategist.

"The government is precipitating its own demise," said one NDP strategist.

"If Paul Martin had not played games with Kyoto, there would not be a problem.

"This is not the opposition parties ganging up on Paul Martin. This is Paul Martin playing funny games."

Martin and his closest aides held meetings and conference calls Friday to discuss the budget bill and sponsorship fallout, sources said.

They would not comment on speculation they might strip down the budget bill to remove the Kyoto component, which involved broadening the Canadian Environmental Protection Act.

But they were preparing to blame Harper for any writ drop in the near future.

"The Canadian people do not want an election," said Martin spokesman Scott Reid.

"The government does not want an election. The only leader who has spoken about the possibility of an election is Stephen Harper."

The Liberals were also preparing to insulate their leader against attacks that will inevitably flow from the sponsorship testimony.

Any sins committed happened under Jean Chretien's administration and cannot be linked to Martin, said one strategist close to the prime minister.

"You will not see anybody identified with the Paul Martin team involved in any of the accusations put forward," he said.

"Because that's not how the Paul Martin team works."

In another rehearsal of a possible Liberal election theme, the strategist said Conservatives could end up killing the Gomery inquiry if they topple the government.

The inquiry and its daily attacks on the Liberal reputation should be suspended during an election campaign, he suggested.

But one inquiry official diputed the notion that the inquiry would automatically shut down because of a writ drop.

"Only a government decree would put an end to the commission," said Gomery spokesman Francois Perreault.

"Until that time the commission will continue - whether or not there's an election."


TOPICS: Canada; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: adscam; canuckistan
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1 posted on 04/01/2005 10:51:56 PM PST by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax

http://www.canada.com/national/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=8c66f0f3-82c8-4d29-aa29-e57eb0843a25


Former ad executive weeps during Gomery testimony
MONTREAL - Former advertising executive Jean Brault broke down in tears on the witness stand at the Gomery Commission yesterday. It occurred in mid-afternoon as Mr. Brault was being grilled by the inquiry's chief counsel, Bernard Roy.


The line of questioning cannot be reported because Mr. Brault's testimony is subject to a publication ban imposed by inquiry Judge John Gomery on testimony by Mr. Brault and two other scheduled witnesses, who face criminal charges in connection with the sponsorship affair and whose trials are scheduled to begin early next month. Mr. Brault owned Groupaction, named in the affair that saw $100-million of the $250-million sponsorship program funding paid to Quebec advertising and communications firms with close ties to the Liberal party.


Mr. Brault appeared to tire under the relentless questioning as the day wore on, and at one point buried his head in his hands and began weeping. He is scheduled to resume testifying today. The incident came just before the commission's regular mid-afternoon break, which the judge then called.

After a 20-minute respite, a composed Brault returned to the stand and resumed his testimony. The publication ban was imposed because media coverage of the inquiry could make it impossible to find an unbiased jury for Brault's trial if his testimony is publicized in advance.


2 posted on 04/01/2005 10:56:43 PM PST by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax
It was never about saving Canada. It was all about lining the pockets of the federal Liberals and their friends. They lost their standing in French Canada. Now how much lower can they fall in the eyes of English Canada once the sordid details come out?

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
3 posted on 04/01/2005 11:05:31 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Friends. If you've got a ping list, we're going to need your help on this one.

If you're from the US, that is.

On Monday, the opposition is going to raise the issue on the floor of the House of Commons (where they have immunity from prosecution for what they say). We need it to be publicized by US sources.

If you've got a blog, post what they say. And here, too.


4 posted on 04/01/2005 11:12:32 PM PST by furquhart (Peace? But there is no peace!)
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To: furquhart
If you've got a ping list, we're going to need your help on this one.

I hear the buzzing of an approaching blog swarm

5 posted on 04/01/2005 11:20:47 PM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: furquhart

Whatever we can do let us know. Bumping for the morning.


6 posted on 04/01/2005 11:22:44 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: furquhart

Why is there a publication ban on testimony that may topple the government? What would happen if Fox News just happened to report on the testimony and this stupid ban?

What are the Liberals afraid of? Why can't they stand up and act like men (and women) instead of hiding behind their daddy's robe?

Here's hoping the government falls and the Conservative Party makes enough inroads in Ontario to win a clear majority. It's going to be tough, though, since they'll win nothing in Quebec and little in Atlantic Canada.


7 posted on 04/02/2005 12:25:14 AM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: Pikamax
"The new testimony at the Gomery inquiry cannot be revealed because of a publication ban but is considered so devastating to the Liberal government that it has all parties looking at election scenarios."

Someone help out this stupid 'ol Texan. I've never comprende'd this Parliamentary Crapola as a form of government and have yet to have it explained to me just how it actually HELPS the citizens of said country.

It looks to me like all it does is allow those in the minority to rule those in the majority without their consent. For example . . . let's say the Conservatives get 49.9% of the vote, or seats, or MP's, or however in the hell these things are measured . . . and the rest of the pervert parties total 50.1%. Can't the PP's band together and form a government and leave the Conservatives out in the cold?

Then when they do something unpopular or wrong or, hell, even illegal . . . can they really just issue a "publication ban" and the info is kept from the people? Hell's fire . . . that sounds like what our Democrats do with the help of the MSM . . . see the Democrat's computer notes on stopping certain judges from being voted on for example. Instead of the Democrats being pilloried for their unconstitutional actions, it was the Republicans who were pilloried by the MSM because . . . gasp . . . they actually read the memos that were on an unprotected server.

But I'm getting off the subject . . .

Another aspect of this Parliamentary crap is it provides insulation for the weasels where, in actuality, they're accountable to no one. Our Canadian Conservative Brethren complain all the time about how difficult it is for them to make wholesale changes. Here . . . we work our asses off and every two years we can start to whittle our enemies down to size.

Why in the hell would ANY citizen or country want to be part of a Parliamentary system? I'm older'n dirt . . . and I've been asking this question my whole, stupid life. Forgive me, I just don't comprende.

8 posted on 04/02/2005 3:41:02 AM PST by geedee (You're a Patriot when a half-masted Old Glory makes you grieve, and Old Hillary makes you heave.)
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To: Pikamax

Can you give us a precis of what this scandal is all about?


9 posted on 04/02/2005 3:43:25 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Liberalism: The irrational fear of self reliance.)
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To: geedee
Parliament is responsible to the voters and in turn the Cabinet is chosen from among the Members Of The House Of Commons who are collectively responsible to the House. This is the basic principle of parliamentary government. Every act is done in the Name Of The Queen with the advice of Her Ministers but the authority for it flows directly from the people. In the parliamentary system of government, the executive and legislative power is united. This means that through an election, one party will be chosen to lead the Government and the country and it will be held accountable through Parliament for its policies.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
10 posted on 04/02/2005 3:55:11 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Straight Vermonter
The Ad-Scam scandal was supposedly about the federal Liberal Government using public funds to help defeat a separatist referendum in Quebec. In reality, thanks to its name, it turned out to be a scam that lined the pockets of people in Quebec advertising agencies and other bodies connected to the Liberal Party. What it was about was not saving the country from breaking up, but providing the federal Liberals and their friends with ill gotten lucre. There's been nothing like it in Canadian history, unless you recall the Saskatchewan scandal that destroyed the provincial Progressive Conservative Party.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
11 posted on 04/02/2005 4:00:47 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Thanks.


12 posted on 04/02/2005 4:35:08 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Liberalism: The irrational fear of self reliance.)
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To: conservative in nyc
Why is there a publication ban on testimony that may topple the government? What would happen if Fox News just happened to report on the testimony and this stupid ban?

I concur. Whenever a gag order is issued on proceedings in the USA, all the media outlets throughout the world are publishing the lurid details. Or is this another shining example of the world wide liberal press protecting their own (liberal politicians)?

13 posted on 04/02/2005 4:41:01 AM PST by Conservative Infidel
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To: furquhart

Here is an interesting post that was found on 'small dead animals' with a HT to Instapundit.

Leftist Despots, Drugs, prostitution, graft, organized crime permeating this leftist scourge of North America.

Is it a surprise that Canada also gave us the first concentration camps?

http://www.infoukes.com/history/internment/gulag/




Let me add these to the pile:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime_file/story/253857p-217343c.html
http://www.nydailynews.com/11-22-2004/news/story/255098p-218457c.html
http://www.parl.gc.ca/38/1/parlbus/chambus/house/debates/027_2004-11-18/han027_1415-E.htm
http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2004/11/18/alfonosogagliano041118.html

Posted by: Sean at April 2, 2005 06:06 AM


14 posted on 04/02/2005 6:41:28 AM PST by spanalot
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To: conservative in nyc
... and little in Atlantic Canada.

I wouldn't be so sure about that.
15 posted on 04/02/2005 7:18:37 AM PST by NorthOf45
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To: conservative in nyc

Assuming they win 80 seats in the West (out of 92 possible seats), they would likely need to win at least 60 seats in Ontario and 10 in Atlantic Canada to be within striking distance of a majority (with 150 seats, they could use a few Liberal-in-name-only backbenchers to push their agenda unless Mr. Dithers uses the heavy hammer). That means their voice needs to resonate in the suburban 905 area code around Toronto and in northern Ontario. Some Liberal seats going NDP wouldn't hurt them either...


16 posted on 04/02/2005 7:25:38 AM PST by Heartofsong83
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To: MeekOneGOP

Hi Meekie,
Could you put out a general ping for this? It's going to be a juicy week/weekend, and we may get a Consevative government up here yet! Thanks, and see post #4.


17 posted on 04/02/2005 10:45:38 AM PST by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: fanfan; Pikamax; furquhart; Alamo-Girl; onyx; ALOHA RONNIE; SpookBrat; Republican Wildcat; ...
Pinging my General Interest and Canada list here.

Canada: Election chatter grows amid
talk of devastating Gomery testimony
(Testimony banned)


Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my General Interest ping list!. . .don't be shy.


18 posted on 04/02/2005 11:22:54 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: MeekOneGOP
Thanks, Meekie.

There are also a couple of interesting threads on FreeDominion.ca

Here's an assessment of the current situation... 04/ 02/ 05 1:54 pm springer,

New Gomery testimony spurs talk of election [ 1 ... 4, 5, 6 ] 04/ 01/ 05 6:09 pm Gabby Jay

Election time? [ 1, 2 ] 04/ 02/ 05 7:17 am karadjos

19 posted on 04/02/2005 11:31:03 AM PST by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: fanfan

Hi fanfan....

I must advise all Canadian Freepers to temper any excitement or high hopes.

This bunch of arrogant, thieving, lying, crooked snakes will retain power against all odds.

They are the mob. No matter how many scandals they have chalked up against them, Canadians don't seem to mind.

It is stunning how they are continually voted into power. But then, with the entire media operation up here as pro-liberal as they are anti-conservative, it is little wonder.

Mr. Harper will immediately be painted as a right-wing, religious, fanatical nut, anxious to join America and send Canada's young people overseas to be killed in "America's" war. This was the line that went out during the two weeks prior to the last election, and it worked.

Sorry to rain on any parades, but I keep my optimism in check up here.


20 posted on 04/02/2005 12:45:42 PM PST by JudyinCanada (I can't wait, the dream is coming true and I will stand in front of the box to put my heart into it.)
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To: JudyinCanada
Sorry to rain on any parades, but I keep my optimism in check up here.

OK Judy, but you'll have to buy me a beer when we form the next Government by November at the latest.

I'll buy you one if The corrupt Mr. Dithers is still in power by then. Deal?

21 posted on 04/02/2005 12:52:58 PM PST by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: Pikamax

I wonder if an American broke this story on an American website like Free Republic, if that American would have to deal with legal implications in Canada. Or if he would care if he did.


22 posted on 04/02/2005 1:21:44 PM PST by Entropy Squared (The Rush to Chaos)
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To: MeekOneGOP
Your opinions would be welcomed here.
23 posted on 04/02/2005 1:26:13 PM PST by Entropy Squared (The Rush to Chaos)
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To: Entropy Squared
bump!


24 posted on 04/02/2005 1:30:50 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: fanfan

Hey fanfan...

Deal.

If the liberals are ousted, I will buy you a CASE of beer, a bag of nachos, some dip, and a noise-maker.

It would be such a glorious day. There is nothing quite so satisfying as seeing a smug, arrogant, elitist, pompous, jack-ass receiving his just desserts.

Let the games begin.


25 posted on 04/02/2005 1:35:19 PM PST by JudyinCanada (I can't wait, the dream is coming true and I will stand in front of the box to put my heart into it.)
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To: Entropy Squared

How would such an American get the details of this inquiry? I would assume a publication ban would keep the facts from getting to anyone who might want to expose our mighty rulers.


26 posted on 04/02/2005 1:39:15 PM PST by JudyinCanada (I can't wait, the dream is coming true and I will stand in front of the box to put my heart into it.)
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To: MeekOneGOP

NYTIMES had this, dunno how old it is.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/03/international/americas/03quebec.html?pagewanted=print&position=


An investigative commission led by Justice John Gomery, which started its work a year ago, has been holding televised hearings in Montreal over the last several weeks, drawing out a litany of private greed and government waste. The province has paid rapt attention; French-language news channels reported a tripling of ratings and added new programming to cover the inquiry into the money flow.

According to recent testimony, an advertising agency owner who is a large donor to the Liberal Party received federal contracts, from which he paid himself, his wife and two children salaries of millions of dollars.

While his firm double-billed Ottawa for work on a stamp promotion campaign, the owner, Jean Lafleur, tried to claim a $1,000 fishing rod, bought as a gift, as a business expense incurred on the government's behalf.

In his testimony in Montreal, Mr. Lafleur said he could not remember who his fishing companion was. But in previous testimony, he disclosed that he had gone on fishing trips with a former federal justice minister as well as a senior government bureaucrat who was in charge of the controversial sponsorship program.

"Gomery is just the tip of the iceberg," said Michel C. Auger, a columnist for Le Journal de Montréal, a local daily. "The iceberg is, politics are not working anymore."


27 posted on 04/02/2005 1:44:33 PM PST by Pikamax
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To: geedee
Why in the hell would ANY citizen or country want to be part of a Parliamentary system? I'm older'n dirt . . . and I've been asking this question my whole, stupid life. Forgive me, I just don't comprende.

I'm wondering why WE set up one in Iraq instead of modelling their interim government on our own? Must be those foggy bottom people who like foreign law more than our own. Thanks for listening to my rant :-)
28 posted on 04/02/2005 2:01:23 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: JudyinCanada

My friend's brother-in-law's third cousin is willing to let Americans in on this information. Of course the guy wouldn't let Canadians know how corrupt their government is, that would be against Canadian law. But it's a gray area whether or not it is against Canadian law to inform Americans about how corrupt the Canadian government is.


29 posted on 04/02/2005 2:02:26 PM PST by Entropy Squared (The Rush to Chaos)
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To: Entropy Squared

Bump


30 posted on 04/02/2005 2:47:20 PM PST by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: conservative in nyc
Why is there a publication ban on testimony that may topple the government?

We Canadians call it "freedom of speech and of the press".

It's the Canadian way.

31 posted on 04/02/2005 4:57:58 PM PST by Allan
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To: Pikamax

The cat is out of the bag:

http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/004220.php


32 posted on 04/02/2005 5:05:08 PM PST by Former Proud Canadian (.)
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To: goldstategop; Straight Vermonter
There's been nothing like it in Canadian history

Not true. The Gun Registry scandal is much worse.

The Liberals only stole a couple hundred million in Adscam
but got more than a billion in the Gun Registry heist.

33 posted on 04/02/2005 5:12:51 PM PST by Allan
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To: Allan

The HRDC boondoggle was also in excess of $1 billion...and the gun registry is probably closer to $2 billion now


34 posted on 04/02/2005 5:45:44 PM PST by Heartofsong83
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To: Pikamax
Publication ban, my aching ass!

Those arrogant ninnies need some serious exposure to the real world.

35 posted on 04/02/2005 5:50:52 PM PST by pointsal
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To: goldstategop

Jean Brault, the weeping weenie, cannot stand up in a strong light....


36 posted on 04/02/2005 5:55:03 PM PST by pointsal
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To: Allan
Do you not have the equivalent of the fifth amendment? Did Mr. Brault have to answer questions posed at the inquiry? Was he granted immunity? Why not have a closed session instead of a publication ban?

I read the Captain Ed's story of the proceedings. This testimony is truly explosive. If it comes out through the Internet or at trial, the Liberals may be sunk.
37 posted on 04/02/2005 5:58:29 PM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: conservative in nyc; JudyinCanada
If it comes out through the Internet or at trial, the Liberals may be sunk.

Not true. Judy is correct. Read post #20.

Canadians (other than Quebecois, and especially in Ontario) will vote for Liberals no matter what happens.

Liberals truly represent the average Canadian.

They represent the best in Canadian society.

38 posted on 04/02/2005 6:21:19 PM PST by Allan
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To: Allan
After the last election, I'm as pessimistic as you about the CPC winning an outright majority of seats in Parliament. The numbers just aren't there. It will be virtually impossible for the Conservative Party to win an outright majority without picking up some ridings in Quebec, which isn't going to happen. They'd need to pick up a bunch of Toronto-are 905 ridings and do a little better in Atlantic Canada (which also isn't very likely).

But the Liberals CAN lose some of the 21 seats they have in Quebec to the Bloc. Add that to changes in a few Ontario ridings to the CPC or NDP, and you're looking at the CPC having the most seats and the Bloc as king makers.
39 posted on 04/02/2005 6:46:21 PM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: goldstategop

I am wondering if provinces like alberta will now seriously speak of joining the USA?


40 posted on 04/02/2005 6:49:51 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Allan
Liberals truly represent the average Canadian. They represent the best in Canadian society. Hi Allan.... If I may, Liberals truly represent the average Canadian, but WE CONSERVATIVES represent the best in Canadian society. :^)
41 posted on 04/02/2005 7:39:50 PM PST by JudyinCanada (I can't wait, the dream is coming true and I will stand in front of the box to put my heart into it.)
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To: JudyinCanada
As the old saying goes:

"Our best is none too good."

42 posted on 04/02/2005 7:41:13 PM PST by Allan
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To: MeekOneGOP

Thanks for the ping!


43 posted on 04/02/2005 8:34:53 PM PST by Alamo-Girl (Please donate monthly to Free Republic!)
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To: conservative in nyc

Correct. I have identified about 60-65 seats that are 'safe' for the Liberals. There are about 10-13 in Atlantic Canada, 13-16 in Quebec, 27-32 in Ontario, 2 in Manitoba and 4-5 in British Columbia, plus 1 of the 3 Arctic seats.

Their strongest regions are the West Island of Montreal and the City of Toronto except near downtown (LIB-NDP).

Realistically, barring the annhialation of the Fiberals, I can see the Conservatives getting 12-14 seats in Atlantic Canada, 55-63 in Ontario, 10-11 in Manitoba, sweeps of Saskatchewan and Alberta (42 total) and 24-27 in British Columbia, plus 1 in the Arctic (Yukon). That leaves them with about 145-158 seats, just on the majority line, with NO seats in Quebec.

That assumes about 20-24 seats land with the NDP and about 58-62 seats land with the Bloc Quebecois.

The best coalition in that case: maverick Liberals-in-name-only.


44 posted on 04/02/2005 8:48:49 PM PST by Heartofsong83
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To: Pikamax

A break fro Captain Ed Morrisey:

Canada's Corruption Scandal Breaks Wide Open (Captain Ed prints Gomery Commission Leak)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1376471/posts


45 posted on 04/03/2005 3:55:34 AM PDT by pending
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To: fanfan

I concur...Dithers and the sewage caked Ditherals are going down this time....only a criminal or a masochist could support them.

My greatest fear is a minority Conservative government...it will be savaged unmercifully by the Kanukistan red media .


46 posted on 04/03/2005 11:32:32 PM PDT by wlyonmackenzie
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To: longtermmemmory

Although we Albertans are on friendly terms with America and in many ways we are ideological soul mates....we would prefer to become a Canadian free state. I worked on 2 Alberta separatist campaigns and the committed separatists are about 10% with 20% soft separatists. Another federal liberal raid like the NEP will propell the separation party into high gear...remember that dip shit Martin has Moe Strong ( UN) in his office and is determined to shove Kyoto down the oil producer's throats...there's war smoke on the horizon between the Ditherals and Alberta.


47 posted on 04/03/2005 11:38:53 PM PDT by wlyonmackenzie
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To: JudyinCanada
The Conservatives need to realistically break through in French Canada. But Francophone Canadians are so disillusioned by the Liberals that they won't trust any other English-speaking party and will park their votes with the Bloc. If the Conservatives want to lead a majority Government, the trust of the Quebecois will have to be earned.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
48 posted on 04/03/2005 11:50:05 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Amazing! The testimony implicates Cretin in the chicanery that took place. How does this judge expect such evidence to remain under seal?


49 posted on 04/04/2005 12:14:19 AM PDT by Prince Charles
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To: Prince Charles
How does this judge expect such evidence to remain under seal?

See this thread

50 posted on 04/04/2005 12:19:13 AM PDT by Allan
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