Mahony Flies To Rome For Solemnities, Conclave (Cardinal from Los Angeles to Visit Vatican)

Los Angeles Times ^ | April 2, 2005 | K. Connie Kang

[bd476]

Mahony Flies To Rome For Solemnities, Conclave

By K. Connie Kang
Times Staff Writer

April 2, 2005

"As he prepared to fly to Rome to probably attend the funeral of the current pope and help elect a new one, Cardinal Roger M. Mahony of Los Angeles asked for spiritual help to get through the momentous events ahead.

"I ask all the people in Southern California to pray for all the cardinals — that we listen wisely to God's voice, the Holy Spirit, and that we choose wisely the next shepherd of the universal church," Mahony told reporters Friday night at the Cathedral of Our Lady of the Angels.

Mahony had celebrated a noon and a 5 p.m. Mass before heading to LAX and ... (Snip) ...then Rome."

"As with many of the other cardinals who will choose a successor to John Paul II, this would be Mahony's first participation in such a conclave. He described himself as being "very excited but also nervous."

Mahony, whose diocese includes an estimated 5 million Roman Catholics in Los Angeles, Ventura and Santa Barbara counties, said the pope had been given a "very special grace" to know that death was near.

"We hear so often about people who are killed instantly ... and have no time to prepare for the greatest moment of our lives — passing from this life into eternal life," Mahony said.

In Rome, he and other cardinals from around the world will be asked to set dates for nine funeral Masses, Mahony said. He said the pope's burial should take place between the fourth and sixth day after his death..."

>> Snip

"...Only the Holy Spirit knows how that will unfold, he said, declining to speculate on candidates..."

[SouthCarolinaKit]

The fact that this cardinal was not defrocked defines the political problem with the Church. I couldn't care less where he goes, what he does or says unless he's leaving. He allowed the homosexual scandal rack the Church and if that's not cause for dismissal, I don't know what is.
As a conservative, traditional Catholic, I'd be for getting rid of any bishop who didn't eject homosexual clergy in the last four decades, without exception and refusing to ordain more of them. That was the papal order and the US hierarchy who ignored it should be penalized. It is THEY who are responsible for the Scandal in the Church.

[bd476]

SouthCarolinaKit, I understand your frustration. What I don't understand is Cardinal Mahony's position, his responsibilities, his powers nor the injustices perpetuated on the innocent.

[Desdemona]

why does it have to be Mahony?

[TheSpottedOwl]

"As with many of the other cardinals who will choose a successor to John Paul II, this would be Mahony's first participation in such a conclave. He described himself as being "very excited but also nervous."

God help us. What does he think this is, his first prom? Sorry, but I can't stand that man.

[TheSpottedOwl]

Because I am judging his worthiness by his previous acts, not by his heart (which I cannot know).

Remember the "cathedral" he had built? Grand Central Station has more solemnity than that cold, barren barn. I can just see him on the plane ride, agonizing about which cassock to wear to the conclave. I've had enough of him.

[NYer]

There was actually a golden aura (for lack of a better word) around him. He seemed to glow in a beautiful, heavenly way. I have never seen anything like this before or since.

Thank you for mentioning this. I had a similar experience on LI with a visiting priest from Nigeria. He had the most piercing eyes, as if he could read one's soul.

I arrived early and saw this priest kneeling, totally immersed in prayer. He then vested and began the Mass. During the Consecration, I looked up to see him surrounded by a golden aura. Like you, I have never experienced it again.

[TheSpottedOwl]

I think Cardinal Arinze would be a good choice.

[NYer]

Think of Rembert Weakland and his ilk going around tearing out communion rails and 'modernizing' churches by moving the sanctuary to a prayer room and discouraging or cancelling Adoration of the Blessed Sacrement and the Stations, think of gender-neutral translations of the bible readings.

So how did Rembert Weakland, Roger Mahony and other liberals, reach their current positions? A recent article offers up that explanation.

" ... if veteran Vatican reporter Robert Blair Kaiser, who recently interviewed Jadot at his home in Belgium, can be believed, Jadot is still proud of some of his most notorious picks, such as Bishop Walter Sullivan of Richmond, Va., Archbishop Rembert Weakiand of Milwaukee, and Roger Cardinal Mahony of Los Angeles - to name but a few, many of whom are known more for their advocacy of homosexual rights, their protection of pederast priests, and their conunitment to modernism than to their commitment to the Church's doctrines.

Other men who became bishops during Jadot's tenure in the United States include Rochester Bishop Matthew Clark; Albany's Howard Hubbard; former Santa Fe Archbishop Roberto Sanchez, who resigned in a sex scandal; former San Jose Bishop Pierre DuMaine; former Honolulu Bishop Joseph Ferrario; San Antonio Archbishop Patrick Flores; former Newark Archbishop Peter Gerety; Joliet, Ill., Bishop Joseph Imesch; Louisille Archbishop Thomas C. Kelly, O.P., a former staffer at the apostolic nuncio under Jadot; Bernard Cardinal Law of Boston (whom Jadot selected as bishop for Springfield-Cape Girardeau, Mo.), Cincinnati Archbishop Daniel Pilarczyk; Saginaw, Mich., Bishop Kenneth Untener - to name a few more - all of whom, supposedly, mirrored his own progressive image as a "man of the people."  

Each of these prelates has been a strong advocate of the pro-homosexual agenda in the U.S. Church, ordaining homosexuals, imposing pro-homosexual education on Catholic schools, aiding and abetting special rights legislation in the civil realm for homosexuals, and giving free rein to homosexuals and lesbians in religious orders which operated schools, universities, parishes, seminaries, and retreat houses in their dioceses and archdioceses."

Still Proud Of Bishops He Gave U.S.

Essentially, he intentionally recommended young men to these powerful positions, fully expecting they would outlive the pope and be in a position to elect a more liberal pontiff at the next Conclave.

Mercifully, God is still in control :-).

[chatham]

Mahony should be in Prison along with "card" Law and about 20 other hierarchal Miscreants.
Egan, Daily, Murphy, McCormack and Banks come to mind.

[bd476]

Many people feel the same as you Chatham.

However, I did not post this so much to discuss Cardinal Mahony as to mention that Los Angeles will be represented at the Vatican today.

Pope John Paul II visited Los Angeles in the 1980s. That's a continued source of pride for many living there.

[Salvation]

All the Cardinals are going to Rome.

How is it that Mahony gets pages space in the LAT?

Follow the money, honey?????

Inquiring minds want to know.

[BlessedBeGod]

Ah, the devil himself is flying to Rome.

[ken21]

maphony started out in the valley with the mexican farm workers. so, he's a darling of the catholic left.

but, he's liked by the catholic rino's. si.

for example, about 1986 richard riordan and some other wealthy l.a.-ers bought maphony his own helicopter.

the archbishop is a pilot.

[Salvation]

Conclave: Pope's 'electoral college' has moral values, no exit polls

Rome's Next Choice? [TIME: "Arch-Conservative" Ratzinger is top Papabile]

Lent in the Vatican: The Pope, the Curia, and the Conclave ( Who's On First )

POPE: 117 CARDINALS ON STANDBY FOR CONCLAVE

Papal Transition (what happens between one pope and the next)

Vatican Bracing for Papal Succession

When Sad Day Comes, Eyes of World Will Be on Papal Selection [How next Pope will be chosen]

Mahony Flies To Rome For Solemnities, Conclave (Cardinal from Los Angeles to Visit Vatican)

Papal Election and Succession

[bd476]

Thank you for the links, Salvation. :)

[ventana]

Ughhh, Egan and McCarick...devils. V's wife.

[Siobhan]

I wonder when the demon gave Mahony the order to go to Rome? Oh but silly me. When you cohabit like that you just know that sort of thing, don't you...

[NYer]

I wonder when the demon gave Mahony the order to go to Rome?

Interestingly, the other US Cardinals have remained here, offering up Masses for the pontiff's special intentions. What's the big rush? Ample time will be given all of them to travel to Rome for the funeral and Conclave.

[dixie sass]

Thank you Lauren. I just turned on the televsion and found that he has passed. We are poorer for his loss but richer for having had him.