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POPE JOHN PAUL, II HAS DIED OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM VATICAN IMMINENT (Breaking Nws) 9:37 PM Rome 4/2
FOX news | April 2, 2005

Posted on 04/02/2005 11:57:08 AM PST by CitizenM

Edited on 04/03/2005 6:40:57 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

(Saturday) Vatican City, Rome Italy - The official Vatican announcement by Cardinal Ruini, is expected momentarily. Media is standing by as we watch and wait.

Synopsis of the Worldwide Two Day Vigil: Image Hosted by ImageShack.us "The Pilgrim Pope" - Since Thursday, March 31 and the announcement of the Pope’s critical condition, high fever, and urinary tract infection, and subsequent septic shock there has been a constant vigil of the faithful while media coverage has been continually providing updates along with stories, and historical information on this holiest of holy men. Image Hosted by ImageShack.usEarly in the afternoon of Friday, April 1, international media and the people throughout the world were sent into frenzy that began immediately after the noontime Mass (where special prayers had just been offered for The Pontiff’s health and peace). While Mass was still being held, word somehow spread that the Pope had lost consciousness; and then the announcement that he had also suffered kidney failure. Shortly, a (false) broadcast on networks every proclaimed that The Pontiff had died. Image Hosted by ImageShack.usThe world held its breath and waited for the “official” notification, while all over the mourning began, and people dropped to their knees in St. Peter's Square. People stopped working, televisions and radio commentators spoke in solemn tones. But, no "official” word came and well over fifteen minutes had passed. Finally a Vatican spokesperson announced that the Holy See was, indeed, still alive! Contrary to all announcements, his heart was beating and his brain was still functioning. Image Hosted by ImageShack.us Hours passed, and no news of any change in the Pope's condition was presented while people continued to pray and wonder. It was being assumed that the many procedures and preparations were being made within the Vatican. In the streets of Vatican City people noted the obvious security measures taking place: more barricades were erected, and more significant crowd control procedures were implemented in preparation for the expected rise in the vigilant. An additional number of streets were closed to motor traffic; a number of ambulances were placed on the immediate grounds for any required emergency assistance for the people. At approximately 5:00 p.m. (US EST) another announcement was made that John Paul, II was conscious and had never lost consciousness. Image Hosted by ImageShack.us Sorrowful, vigilant crowds have filled St. Peter’ Square rising to about 70,000 during the day Thursday. During that time hymns rang out spontaneously and a Rosary Ceremony was held. Churches filled with the prayerful around the world. In Poland, especially, people gathered in the streets and outside the building in Krakow where the Pope stayed when he visited what he always called “home.” Luminary candles were placed all over the grounds. Pilgrimages from all over Europe to Vatican City were announced underway and included Catholics and those of all faiths whose love, respect, and admiration of this Holy man transcends all religious and ethnic lines. The crows are expected to swell to over 100,000 in the Vatican. Image Hosted by ImageShack.usAt 11:00 A.M (Rome time) Saturday, the Vatican , spokesman, Navarro-Fellas, made a statement that the Pope's condition remained “very grave” but basically unchanged. He was not in a coma, although there had been periods of unconsciousness ( medical commentators told us that was most likely due to the toxins that built up in his system). However, he would awaken and even interact and be alert. The spokesman related the Pope's love of the children. Note: He was so loved by them they nicknamed him “Papa,” and “JPII.”. A huge “World Youth Day” has been in the planning for years and was scheduled for Aug. 20, 2005, Cologne, Germany.( Message of the Holy Father To the Youth of the world on the Occasion of the 20th World Youth Day ) Navarro-Fellas related how the Holy Father had been told that mostly young people had been vigilant in the square the night before. That seemed to please him and he spoke, difficult to understand, but he said:

Image Hosted by ImageShack.us "I have looked for you, now you have come to me. Now I thank you."Image Hosted by ImageShack.us
Later in the day it was reported that, although seriously ill, he had completed some official duties and assigned a few more bishops. Mentally, when he was awake, it was related, he was able to remain focused. So, from his bed he was still handling some unfinished business he wanted to finalize, it was said. His bedroom was described at one point (giving us a beautiful mental picture). We were told it was all white with white fluffy bedding, and John Paul, II was propped up in a semi-sitting position. It was described as serene and peaceful and His Eminence was receiving constant attention, particularly from the three nuns who have regularly cared for him. Saturday evening, dusk came again to Rome, and a candlelight vigil was renewed by the faithful around 6:00 PM. A respectful silence fell over the crowds as they awaited news. It was said that, again, that the crowd of approximately 60,000 contained a significant number of young people who, although respectful in their attendance, had become quite boisterous. Media personnel reported there was an air of reverence punctuated with jubilation for His Holiness, as they celebrated his coming passage into Heaven. It was not one bit an unruly crowd, and quite well-mannered. Finally around 7:00 PM (Rome) another update came from the chief spokesman, Navarro-Fallas, who presented the media with a written statement that read: “ The Pontiff had developed a high fever in the late morning. His physical condition is still quite serious. He is responding to household aides.” The message appeared somewhat terse but was, evidently, meant to dispel rumors that had arisen that he was in a complete coma. It was also noted on the broadcasts that the Holy See could have been experiencing periods of ecstasy/rapture that he has oft slipped into when in fervent prayer, and, perhaps, was not just “unconscious.” Since that is somewhat misunderstood by the majority of people, it was not openly discussed by the Vatican spokesperson.
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At the time of his death, and once it has been ascertained to be definite, and he has been removed from his bedroom, the Camerlengo of the Vatican locks and seals the private apartment of the Pontiff. The pope’s Fisherman’s ring with his unique seal are smashed with a silver hammer to symbolize the end of his reign and to prevent forgeries. No autopsy is performed. Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger will then speak to the people. The Bronze Door, a massive portal beneath a portico off St. Peter's Square is closed and is kept shut until a new pontiff is elected
When the dramatic closing of the shutters on the windows of the Pontiff's apartment takes place that serves as another traditional symbol to the world that Pope John Paul, II, (born Karol Wojtyla, May 18, 1920, Wadowice, Poland) the world’s first Polish pope, has completed his work and extraordinary reign of 26 years. He will have left his earthly bonds to take his well-deserved place of honor among the highest of angels.
Peace, my dear Holy Father. May the love of the people you served so unselfishly surround and lift you as you rise, effortlessly, through the clouds. We rejoice. You are no longer suffering pain or discomfort, your journey is over and you will be rewarded with God's waiting embrace, and the open arms of Our Lady of Fatima for whom you had such special devotion.
Pope John Paul, The Great
Image Hosted by ImageShack.usPope John Paul, II - May 18, 1920-April 2, 2005 Image Hosted by ImageShack.us
Holy Father, you led us in life. You left us your love.


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To: TexKat; hattend; texasbluebell

You all realize if I attempted that right there, I'd be here until Thursday, right??? :)


651 posted on 04/02/2005 2:20:04 PM PST by Hand em their arse
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To: MadIvan
Hail Mary, full of grace The Lord is with thee Blessed art thou amongst women And blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus Holy Mary, Mother of God - Pray for us sinners Now, and at the hour of our death, Amen.

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You surprise me Ivan. Pleasantly so.

652 posted on 04/02/2005 2:20:16 PM PST by wtc911 ("I would like at least to know his name.")
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To: All

Prayers for a great man. I am not Catholic but have tremendous respect for this man. Best to all my Catholic brothers and sisters here on FR. Now is the time for joy not grief.


653 posted on 04/02/2005 2:20:21 PM PST by conservaDave
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To: MinuteGal

LOL--the photos with Castro and Bubba are interesting too, when compared with the rest.


654 posted on 04/02/2005 2:20:56 PM PST by NautiNurse ("I'd rather see someone go to work for a Republican campaign than sit on their butt."--Howard Dean)
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To: NautiNurse
I pray you find peace in your soul.
Just not called for. Not on this thread about John Paul II.
655 posted on 04/02/2005 2:22:06 PM PST by Clara Lou (I'm not pro-death, I'm anti-hysteria.)
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To: Hand em their arse
Frankly, and I don't want to put words in other people's mouths here but, it sure as heck wouldn't bother me a lick if you were to just, piss off....

Wow, that's such a Christian attitude on a thread about the passing of the Holy Father.

656 posted on 04/02/2005 2:22:48 PM PST by ContraryMary (WPPFF Member)
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To: NautiNurse; ContraryMary

"Many of us saw something more spiritual. I pray you find peace in your soul."

However ContraryMary, in the meantime you could...... ok, I'm sorry NaughtiNurse, I won't say bad things anymore... :)


657 posted on 04/02/2005 2:22:57 PM PST by Hand em their arse
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To: CitizenM
Holy Father, may you rest in absolute joy with our Lord.

For us you leave behind, we are truly thankful that God gave us your leadership and love.

Joannes Paulus Magnus, Requiescat in Pacem.

658 posted on 04/02/2005 2:23:20 PM PST by MassLengthTime
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To: eastsider

Oh, my goodness!


659 posted on 04/02/2005 2:23:56 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Hand em their arse

Well...I might be too!


660 posted on 04/02/2005 2:23:56 PM PST by texasbluebell
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To: ELS

Thank You! My heart is happy. It is fitting.


661 posted on 04/02/2005 2:24:34 PM PST by samiam1972 (Live simply so that others may simply live!)
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To: Fury

The ordination of women was the downfall of the Episcopal Church. I will be devastated if the Roman Catholic Church goes that way. As a Bishop once xplained it to me, God is the Father, Jesus the Son. If God is now the Mother, then Father and Son become unimportant as the head of the family. That progression of thought is obvious im apostate churches of today, and the resultant influence of this thinking is evident in the state of American families today. The Catholic Church MUST stay away from this type of feminism.


663 posted on 04/02/2005 2:26:01 PM PST by tinamina
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To: Hand em their arse

I'm not Catholic but I would guess it has to do with the large change in status in so many ways when one is elevated to the papacy. Perhaps someone who is better versed in Roman Catholicism can answer your question more definitively.


664 posted on 04/02/2005 2:26:15 PM PST by xp38
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To: freedumb2003
If I am not mistaken, that picture was taken at the Brandenburg Gate in Berlin, and the Holy Father was teasing the East German Border Guards, who were looking at him through binoculars.

Incidentally, around the time of his visit to Berlin, the East Germans built a television tower with a large round observatory at the top. Light refracting off the observatory formed a perfect cross, so the Berliners began calling the tower the "Pope's Revenge."


665 posted on 04/02/2005 2:26:51 PM PST by LouD
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To: MassLengthTime

Amen and Amen..God Bless Pope John Paul, I feel so sad..
May Jesus welcome him with eternal Peace and Happiness..

We will miss the great man you are....

Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be Thy name: Thy kingdom come: Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread: and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation: but deliver us from evil. Amen.


666 posted on 04/02/2005 2:27:43 PM PST by missyme (The Cosmic Effect of some Freepers...)
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To: ContraryMary

"Wow, that's such a Christian attitude on a thread about the passing of the Holy Father."


You are right and I apologize... I should not have made that type of comment to you on this thread...

If you read the first part of my comment, you'd also see that we've been quite serene, pleasant and frankly, almost family-like in our posts and in our shared remembrances... You jumped in on your first post to the threead with a bad attitude and I didn't think it was appropriate.... I do take back what I said Mary and ask that you accept my apology, I am sorry...

Dave


667 posted on 04/02/2005 2:28:44 PM PST by Hand em their arse
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To: Okies love Dubya 2; Northern Yankee; prairiebreeze; Victoria Delsoul; Siobhan; MeekOneGOP; ...
To my fellow Catholics, we must remember John Paul's favorite saying: 'Be not afraid.'

Extending that saying to all Christians:

I have this image, with the saying "Be Not Afraid," hanging on my wall as a tapestry.

It means more to me today, than ever.


668 posted on 04/02/2005 2:28:56 PM PST by kstewskis ("Tolerance is what happens when one loses their principles"....Fr. A Saenz.)
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To: CitizenM

Thank you so much for this thread, CitizenM. I went to church for Saturday PM Mass, and I was the only one crying. I wouldn't even consider myself a devout catholic, but I feel like a lost sheep. I knew I could find some comfort here. I always do.


669 posted on 04/02/2005 2:29:12 PM PST by spookycc (Peace, dear Holy Father.)
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To: CitizenM
In Memoriam...... This is a nice page. It it doesn't appear as a hyper-link, will one of you who is more computer-saavy please fix it for me??? http://www.bittsandbytes.com/APRIL_2005/SPECIAL/SPECIAL.html
670 posted on 04/02/2005 2:29:15 PM PST by moondoggie
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To: onyx; PhiKapMom; dixiechick2000; jocon307; Krodg; sciencediet; firstiamaussoldier; texasflower; ...
I thought you'd all appreciate this photo even though it's not W.

RIP

671 posted on 04/02/2005 2:31:41 PM PST by ILBBACH
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To: backhoe
That's the way I remember these two giants of my lifetime.

Thank you for the picture.


672 posted on 04/02/2005 2:31:43 PM PST by george wythe
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To: NautiNurse

and he seemed almost like a grandfather, to me, because of being Polish. it will not be the same without him.


673 posted on 04/02/2005 2:32:09 PM PST by xsmommy
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To: All
You are all such beautiful people. It will take me forever to read all the posts. And every picture is beautiful. These are all expressions to save forever and read at times of stress.

Isn't it wonderful to behold such unity?!!!

And to think, all over the world people in unison loved this exalted man and felt his passing touch their hearts.

Image Hosted by ImageShack.usThe world's words of praise and devotion compose Pope John Paul, II's "Ode To Joy!" And the Trumpeter Angels in Heaven will play this song that we have lifted on his behalf as he passes through the golden gates.

Welcome Great John Paul, II. Welcome To Heaven!

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674 posted on 04/02/2005 2:32:49 PM PST by CitizenM (An excuse is worse and more terrible than a lie, for an excuse is a lie guarded. Pope John Paul II)
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To: xsmommy; onyx; cyborg; bd476; Salvation

President and Mrs. Bush arrive unexpectedly at St. Matthew's Cathedral in Washington DC for Mass.


675 posted on 04/02/2005 2:33:18 PM PST by Petronski (I thank God Almighty for a most remarkable blessing: John Paul the Great.)
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To: Hand em their arse; All

I did not see the #662 comment but would not doubt if it was directed at me for a previous post I made... If that was the case, I apologize to the group on the thread... This should be a thread in which NO COMMENTS should need deleting, so if it was me that caused it, I am sorry to all of you....


676 posted on 04/02/2005 2:33:54 PM PST by Hand em their arse
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To: Hand em their arse
Dave, Thank you for the apology. I still think the particular post was inappropriate for this thread; if my response sounded harsh, I apologize.

Regards,
CM

677 posted on 04/02/2005 2:34:00 PM PST by ContraryMary (WPPFF Member)
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To: All

President and Mrs. Bush have just made a surprise stop at the Cathedral in DC for the evening Mass.

On Fox.


678 posted on 04/02/2005 2:34:06 PM PST by texasbluebell
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To: CitizenM

Foxnews showing President Bush attending a mass at St. Matthews Cathedral, which was quite unexpected.


679 posted on 04/02/2005 2:34:17 PM PST by StarFan
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To: kstewskis

Beautiful!
GOD Bless Pope John Paul....Let us pray with a grateful heart for what the lord has done for us by blessing us with a wonderful man to admire as we honor him today...


680 posted on 04/02/2005 2:34:23 PM PST by missyme (The Cosmic Effect of some Freepers...)
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To: MikeReedKS
Thanks for sharing your site, Mike!

Candle lit ;)

681 posted on 04/02/2005 2:34:49 PM PST by kstewskis ("Tolerance is what happens when one loses their principles"....Fr. A Saenz.)
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To: ContraryMary

No sweat.... but you'd better watch it or we may need to jump ugly privately.... :)


682 posted on 04/02/2005 2:35:41 PM PST by Hand em their arse
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To: CitizenM

Bless you and thank you Holy Father. My prayers go with you.


683 posted on 04/02/2005 2:35:56 PM PST by Horatio Gates (Damned if I do. Damned if I don't. That's why I get the big bucks.)
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To: CitizenM

Beautiful... Jesus welcomes his children with a loving heart..Be Not Afraid...Amen...


684 posted on 04/02/2005 2:35:57 PM PST by missyme (The Cosmic Effect of some Freepers...)
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To: moondoggie

http://www.bittsandbytes.com/APRIL_2005/SPECIAL/SPECIAL.html


685 posted on 04/02/2005 2:37:46 PM PST by TomGuy (America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
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To: Petronski

That's my president! I love Dubya and Laura.


686 posted on 04/02/2005 2:37:47 PM PST by cyborg (Feel the FReeper Love)
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To: Fudd Fan; CitizenM
Thanks to all non-catholics here who also loved the Pope.

Indeed. All Christians, regardless of church or denomination, feel a great loss today. But also a great joy!--John Paul is now in the loving arms of Almighty God, surrounded by the indescribable beauty and happiness of His Eternal Home. May we all join him there someday.

Amen.

687 posted on 04/02/2005 2:38:02 PM PST by silent_jonny
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To: Coleus

Despite the drenching rain during mass at Giants Stadium, I was moved by his homily supporting the dignity of life of economic immigrants (of which my wife by my side was one).


688 posted on 04/02/2005 2:38:17 PM PST by Incorrigible (immanentizing the eschaton)
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To: MeekOneGOP

This has been a sad week.


689 posted on 04/02/2005 2:38:25 PM PST by hiredhand (Pudge the Indestructible Kitty lives at http://www.justonemorefarm.com)
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To: Salvation

"O God whose only begotten Son has purchased for us the rewards of eternal life, Grant that we beseech Thee while meditating upon these mysteries of the Most Holy Rosary of the Blessed Virgin Mary, we may both imitate what they contain and obtain what they promise, through the same Christ our Lord Amen."

"My God, I believe, I adore, I hope, and I love You. I beg pardon of You for those who do not believe, do not adore, do not hope, and do not love You."


690 posted on 04/02/2005 2:38:47 PM PST by missyme (The Cosmic Effect of some Freepers...)
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To: cyborg

Hey, he's my president too! You hafta share!



;O)

(I caught a dry spot for a walk. Tomorrow: SNOW)


691 posted on 04/02/2005 2:39:28 PM PST by Petronski (I thank God Almighty for a most remarkable blessing: John Paul the Great.)
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To: silent_jonny
But also a great joy!

Definitely a great joy. He is welcomed by the angels.

692 posted on 04/02/2005 2:40:58 PM PST by MarMema
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To: Petronski
Watching ETWN steam here.

Prolonged applause.

Viva Papa!!

693 posted on 04/02/2005 2:41:09 PM PST by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: Petronski

Well it's raining here, buckets and cats and dogs. Everybody and their mama is getting rained on here.


694 posted on 04/02/2005 2:41:50 PM PST by cyborg (Feel the FReeper Love)
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To: Petronski

what a wonderful gesture that was.


695 posted on 04/02/2005 2:41:50 PM PST by xsmommy
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To: backhoe

Giants of the Earth


696 posted on 04/02/2005 2:41:50 PM PST by Gaetano
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Only Fox has the decency to show and let us hear some of the ceremony. I cannot fathom why CNN and MSNBC insist on babbling for every second of their broadcast.


697 posted on 04/02/2005 2:42:25 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: xsmommy

YES


698 posted on 04/02/2005 2:42:26 PM PST by Petronski (I thank God Almighty for a most remarkable blessing: John Paul the Great.)
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To: Hand em their arse

I've experienced those days also Hand em their arse.


699 posted on 04/02/2005 2:42:52 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Petronski

i also found the president's remarks very touching.


700 posted on 04/02/2005 2:43:06 PM PST by xsmommy
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