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Canada's Corruption Scandal Breaks Wide Open
Captains Quarter ^ | 03/02/05 | Captains Quarters

Posted on 04/02/2005 4:57:54 PM PST by Pikamax

Canada's Corruption Scandal Breaks Wide Open

A political scandal involving the Public Works Ministry, a government effort called the Sponsorship Program, and allegations of corruption in the ruling Liberal Party has Canada abuzz with rumors of payoffs, Mob ties, and snap elections. For the last two years, Canadian politics has been gripped by the so-called “sponsorship scandal” – tens of millions of dollars in government contracts which were funneled into advertizing firms closely connected with the Liberal government for little or no work, but with shadowy rumours that much of the money found its way back into Liberal coffers. Prime Minister Paul Martin, himself a Liberal, appointed the Gomery Commission to investigate these charges and determine whether to bring charges against government officials for corruption and malfeasance. (See the blog Small Dead Animals for some excellent background on the case.)

Most of the testimony heard by the Commission has been public, but Judge Gomery has decided to create a publication ban on the testimony of three key witnesses: John Brault, president of the ad agency Groupaction, Charles Guité, an officer of the Public Works ministry who worked on the Sponsorship Program, and Paul Coffin, president of the ad agency Coffin Communications. The potential damage of their testimony has so unnerved the Liberal Party that they have reportedly started working towards a snap election so that they will not have to face the voters once the facts surface from the record.

And well they might, if Brault's testimony gives any indication of what they will face. Thanks to a friend of mine, CQ readers can get a taste of what Brault has already told the Gomery Commission. For obvious reasons, I cannot reveal this person's name or position, but this person is in a position to have the information. Bear in mind that this comes from a single source, so while I have confidence in the information, you should consider the sourcing carefully.

Payoffs And Kickbacks

On Thursday, Jean Brault began his testimony – subject to the publication ban – and revealed a massive pattern of corruption going to the highest levels of the Liberal party and government. Brault testified to hundreds of thousands of dollars of bogus transactions designed to benefit the Liberal Party of Canada over a period from 1994 to 2002.

Most of the illegal campaign contributions involved Brault either hiring “employees” -– who were in fact working full time on Liberal Party activities –- or paying invoices for Liberal Party campaign expenses (which were never declared as such) or making untraceable cash donations to Liberal officials. In exchange for helping the federal Liberals in Quebec, Brault received millions of dollars in federal advertising contracts.

Brault said he met with Jean Carle, a key aide to then Prime Minister Jean Chretien to propose a more direct way of ensuring that Groupaction got a large share of federal advertising dollars in Quebec. Carle referred Brault to federal bureaucrat Charles (“Chuck”) Guité and told him that “there was room for everybody.” Guité later put together the sponsorship program, in which five Liberal connected firms –- including Groupaction -– were guaranteed a monopoly on government “sponsorship” advertising (e.g. federal
advertising at sporting or cultural events) and related work. The sponsorship program eventually became a huge slush fund into which over $250 million was poured, over $100 million of which was paid in fees and commissions to these five advertising firms, with little or any evidence of work done or value for money.

In exchange for these large contracts for little or no work, Brault kicked back generously to the Liberal Party, putting Liberal organizers on his payroll while they continued to perform party work (including, at one point, Prime Minister Jean Chrétien’s brother, Gaby Chrétien), paying invoices to other companies for work actually done for the Liberal Party, and giving large donations -– in cash -– to the Liberal Party through Renaud or Liberal Party organizer (and close associate of Public Works Minister Alfonso Gagliano) Joe Morselli.

Protection Racket?

Towards the later part of the sponsorship program, the friends and associates of former Public Works ministry official and ambassador to Denmark Alfonso Gagliano, some of whom have been linked to organized crime, played a larger role in the schemes.

At one point, Gagliano associate Tony Mignacca told Brault that if he didn’t rehire Renaud (who had left Groupaction to start a new company), he would lose his newly acquired contract with Via Rail – Canada’s state-run passenger rail service. Brault broke down in tears after he recounted this testimony. At a meeting in 2001 with Joe Morselli, Brault said that he arranged to have the meeting in an overheated room in a restaurant – so that Brault could ask Morselli to take off his coat and ensure that he wasn’t carrying a body pack.

This is just the beginning of Brault's testimony. If the Gomery Commission can corroborate Brault, then the reek of corruption goes through all levels of the Liberal party and may explain their ability to out-campaign the Conservatives. After all, they've siphoned off hundreds of millions of government dollars to promote their own party and to guarantee their monopoly on power. They hijacked the Canadian tax base to fund their own campaigns and hide the financial trail.

More will be forthcoming, but it isn't difficult to understand why Liberal politicians have begun to panic already.

Posted by Captain Ed at April 2, 2005 05:30 PM


TOPICS: Canada; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: scandal
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1 posted on 04/02/2005 4:57:55 PM PST by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax

Hopefully this will open the eyes of the majority of Canadians,who consistently vote this scum in, time after time. God, I hope so.


2 posted on 04/02/2005 5:03:36 PM PST by LilyBean
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To: Pikamax

I guess the question to our Canadian readers is how to get this information widely disseminated in Canada.


3 posted on 04/02/2005 5:05:03 PM PST by Truth29
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To: LilyBean
>>>>>>>Hopefully this will open the eyes of the majority of Canadians,who consistently vote this scum in, time after time. God, I hope so.<<<<<<

Even if the majority of Canadians finally open their eyes, it will not change much.

What do you think, why Canada allows massive immigration but provides no skilled jobs for immigrants but settle them mostly in Toronto on social assistance?

Methinks it is creation of Liberal voting machine. The voting system by ridings will provide enough votes to re-elect this scum over and over again.

4 posted on 04/02/2005 5:09:41 PM PST by DTA
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To: Truth29

Post a link. It will be out in Canada now within 48 hours.


5 posted on 04/02/2005 5:10:38 PM PST by Former Proud Canadian (.)
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To: LilyBean
Nah No way! The Liberals have successfully painted the Conservatives as a bunch of bible thumping red neck George Doubya Bush wannabes hell bent on turning back the clock for women, minorities, gays and immigrants. They made themselves out to be the party that will protect your rights from the big bad american wannabes! And If I may say so (I can since I am Canadian) I believe that 60% of Canadians and 90% of Quebecers are bloody dillusional for buying into this bovine scatology!

the gigs up. These Liberals in name only (they are adherents of the socialist religion that is preached and practiced in Europe all in the belief that it will make them "less american")are very similar to the revoluntionary party in mexico that ran as a amjority gov't for 70 odd years. Well we have a bit of the same here._

6 posted on 04/02/2005 5:15:00 PM PST by bubman
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To: bubman

Canadians passively vote the same criminals back in every time. "What can you do?" they will say with a sigh. Just give them their lollipops or promise them that you'll take them away from the neighbours so nobody will have anything -- and bash the Americans -- and they're happy.

I've lived up here for 6 years and I can't believe how passive they are, but it's true.


7 posted on 04/02/2005 5:19:16 PM PST by KateatRFM
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To: Pikamax; MeekOneGOP; JudyinCanada
Bump To The TOP!!!!


8 posted on 04/02/2005 5:32:08 PM PST by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: fanfan

Who is that DORK in the picture?


9 posted on 04/02/2005 5:33:43 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (a PROUD member of the "Blame the MSM first" crowd!!!!!)
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To: Truth29

It is illegal to spread this info in Canada. The judge in charge of the inquiry has imposed a gag order. There is talk the BQ will raise the issue in the House of Commons which will for all intent and purposes break the gag.


10 posted on 04/02/2005 6:15:27 PM PST by Cdnexpat (Mr Bush, please don't speak to any member of a Liberal government on any topic.)
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To: Pikamax

Corruption? Liberals? No way!


11 posted on 04/02/2005 6:19:54 PM PST by Conservative Infidel
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To: KateatRFM
Absolutely, if you take as an example the Ballistic Missile Defence program that was conceived by Bill Clinton (who Canadians love!) and supported at the time by Paul Martin, it is incredulous that the same guy now (and some Canadians-the polls are all over the place on this one) will not support it for the simple fact I believe that there is an utter disdain for GWB among a large group of Canadians thus he does not want to be seen too associated with GWB!

Pathetic what passes for politicians in Canada!

12 posted on 04/02/2005 6:24:00 PM PST by bubman
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To: Cdnexpat
Well, nothing stops Canadians from reading Captain's Quarters or Instipundit. And if O'Reilly just happens to pick up the story on Monday, Fox News is now on in Canada.

This publication ban is idiotic. Why not just hold a closed session? Something just seems wrong about allowing the media to be somewhere but not allowing them to report. Rumors are often easier to spread than the truth (which might come back to bite the Liberals).
13 posted on 04/02/2005 6:25:57 PM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: KateatRFM

>>Canadians passively vote the same criminals back in every time. "What can you do?" they will say with a sigh.<<

Americans do exactly the same thing.


14 posted on 04/02/2005 6:40:28 PM PST by B4Ranch (The Minutemen will be doing a 30 day Neighborhood Watch Program in Arizona and New Mexico.)
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To: Cdnexpat

I have the incredible urge to spread it


15 posted on 04/02/2005 6:44:21 PM PST by Crazieman (Islam. Religion of peace, and they'll kill you to prove it.)
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To: conservative in nyc
The ban is in place because some of those who are testifying also face criminal charges related to their testimony. After the trials start the and the juries are sequestered then the info can be released.
16 posted on 04/02/2005 6:58:35 PM PST by Cdnexpat (Mr Bush, please don't speak to any member of a Liberal government on any topic.)
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To: Crazieman

If you are an American in America nothing is stopping you.


17 posted on 04/02/2005 6:59:57 PM PST by Cdnexpat (Mr Bush, please don't speak to any member of a Liberal government on any topic.)
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To: Cdnexpat
The ban is in place because some of those who are testifying also face criminal charges related to their testimony. After the trials start the and the juries are sequestered then the info can be released.

Then why hold a public inquiry including the testimony in the first place? Why not go to a closed session for the testimony? The publication ban is idiotic way of dealing with a potential poisoning of the jury because it will either lead to rumors or backdoor attempts to get the truth out. Rumors might hurt the Liberals and Jean Brault more than the truth, though.
18 posted on 04/02/2005 7:09:44 PM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: Pikamax
Prime Minister Paul Martin, himself a Liberal, appointed the Gomery Commission to investigate these charges...

"Well gawlly, we looked an' looked but we didn't find a dang thang.

"

19 posted on 04/02/2005 7:17:07 PM PST by infidel29 ("It is only the warlike power of a civilized people that can give peace to the world."- T. Roosevelt)
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To: Cdnexpat
The ban is in place because some of those who are testifying also face criminal charges related to their testimony. After the trials start the and the juries are sequestered then the info can be released.

In the U.S., this phase would be equivalent to a grand jury hearing -- which is a closed hearing and it is illegal to divulge the testimony.

The difference is that Canada is holding these hearings in public, but banning publication of their contents. The same effect, more awkwardly achieved.

20 posted on 04/02/2005 7:21:22 PM PST by okie01 (A slavering moron and proud member of the lynch mob, cleaning the Augean stables of MSM since 1998.)
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To: KateatRFM; Allan

You are so right.

Why did they even bother to ban anything?

Canadians don't care.

They know the liberals are a corrupt bunch of mobsters. They don't care....just pay for my day-care and health-care and give me a GST rebate and I'm all yours.

And don't forget the formula up here.

IMMIGRANTS = LIBERALS for at least ten generations. Don't learn the language and don't ask questions. Just pay your taxes and keep voting us in. That way you will be guaranteed your whole family entrance into our country.

Ping to Allan.


21 posted on 04/02/2005 8:00:16 PM PST by JudyinCanada (I can't wait, the dream is coming true and I will stand in front of the box to put my heart into it.)
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To: KateatRFM
I've lived up here for 6 years and I can't believe how passive they are, but it's true.

Canadians:
not human
nor even
sub-human
and
neither animal
nor vegetable
but rather
walking blobs
of lifeless
formless
brainless protoplasm

22 posted on 04/02/2005 8:26:38 PM PST by Allan
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To: LilyBean
Stunning how the population on both sides of the border take scandals of the utmost depths of disgust in stride with nothing more than a sigh and a yawn - 'they're politicians, they're supposed to be crooked and they all do it' and so on..... Steyn had a great article a while back on another Liberal scandal in the making, frankly a far more serious one - I've told it to lots of folks, written lots of MPs to investigate it, sent links to the media and so on. I've never heard a whiff of it anywhere outside of right here on FR. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1342935/posts

What's that about people getting the government they deserve? I guess if no one pays attention, is just plain apathetic and has such low expectations, this is the result. Yup, we got what we deserve and it's hard to find a soul who give two flying you-know-whats about it.
23 posted on 04/02/2005 9:02:17 PM PST by Asfarastheeastisfromthewest...
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To: LilyBean
Stunning how the population on both sides of the border take scandals of the utmost depths of disgust in stride with nothing more than a sigh and a yawn - 'they're politicians, they're supposed to be crooked and they all do it' and so on..... Steyn had a great article a while back on another Liberal scandal in the making, frankly a far more serious one - I've told it to lots of folks, written lots of MPs to investigate it, sent links to the media and so on. I've never heard a whiff of it anywhere outside of right here on FR. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1342935/posts

What's that about people getting the government they deserve? I guess if no one pays attention, is just plain apathetic and has such low expectations, this is the result. Yup, we got what we deserve and it's hard to find a soul who give two flying you-know-whats about it.
24 posted on 04/02/2005 9:03:46 PM PST by Asfarastheeastisfromthewest...
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To: bubman

That was all about the Fiberals trying to buy votes in Quebec (where the opposition was concentrated, the rest of Canada was actually slightly in favor of BMD)


25 posted on 04/02/2005 9:05:27 PM PST by Heartofsong83
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To: JudyinCanada

Sadly, that seems to be right. I have no idea why, because they are the party that treats them the worst...


26 posted on 04/02/2005 9:06:51 PM PST by Heartofsong83
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To: Pikamax
These revelations have destroyed what's Left of the federal Liberals standing in French Canada. It may well do the same in English Canada. What emerges is the picture of a party that broke the law in the name of saving the country and they did it not for high minded idealistic reasons but to keep themselves in power. Through a slush fund and kickbacks to the ruling party's coffers. All through Ad-scam, the Government kept Parliament completely in the dark. No wonder the Liberals are panicked by the Gomery revelations - they should be forced to disband in disgrace like the Saskatchewan Progressive Conservative Party was after a similiar pattern of corruption reaching to the highest levels of the Government in that Province.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
27 posted on 04/02/2005 9:09:33 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

That would be a dream come true, but it would have one interesting side effect: how would you want the NDP as the official opposition, since they'd probably snare votes off the left wing...it would also create a gaping hole among the 'progressives' and at center-left, since their choices would be the right-wing Conservatives, the left-wing NDP, a fringe party or staying home...

That Saskatchewan PC Party implosion may have had a silver lining - it opened the door for the new Saskatchewan Party, which is really their version of the Conservative Party - without the word 'progressive' and mostly pure conservatives...


28 posted on 04/02/2005 9:14:31 PM PST by Heartofsong83
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To: Pikamax

Anybody know what a snap election is in Canada, and what benefit it gives the liberal government?


29 posted on 04/02/2005 9:28:54 PM PST by Col Freeper (Never argue with an idiot - - those watching may not be able to tell who is the idiot.)
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To: Col Freeper
The Prime Minister can ask the Governor General to drop the writ any time he thinks its advantageous to his party's prospects of winning. A lot of Canadians think calling a snap election is an unfair surprise and elections should be held on a fixed basis and not just when its convenient for the ruling party. Ontario Province has already adopted fixed elections.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
30 posted on 04/02/2005 9:32:49 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Col Freeper

Snap election - when the governing party (in this case the Liberals) calls an election suddenly and early because they are very high in the polls. That is an undemocratic tactic that should not be allowed; terms should be fixed at 4 years (if a government falls on a vote of non-confidence, the individual MP's, but not the Prime Minister, should be put back up for by-elections - in which case Paul Martin could theoretically be leading a house with a Conservative majority)


31 posted on 04/02/2005 9:33:42 PM PST by Heartofsong83
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To: Heartofsong83
I think it would be good to see an honest Left rather than a corrupt one. The NDP won't get far in Canada because they're viewed as "too socialist." Add to that the fact the other leftist party, the Bloc Quebecois is limited by a regional appeal, and the Conservatives stand to benefit handsomely. A United Left is the Canadian Left's worst nightmare.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
32 posted on 04/02/2005 9:35:49 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

British Columbia also has fixed election dates.

I think the fixed date should be nationally set and used for all levels of government; my preferred date would be the 2nd Monday in May (to allow for a fresh fall session) or the 3rd Monday in November (to allow a fall of campaigning before returning in January, and to keep it off the US election week and Remembrance Day)


33 posted on 04/02/2005 9:36:20 PM PST by Heartofsong83
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To: goldstategop

Yeah that's correct, and often that is what happens (while definitely left-leaning - although not as far left as the federal NDP which is definitely socialist, the Manitoba NDP government has been pretty much free of scandal and corruption) - of course, that does not take into account the British Columbia NDP scandals of the 1990s - however, that happened to the right-wing Social Credit party (now pretty much defunct) as well...


34 posted on 04/02/2005 9:39:35 PM PST by Heartofsong83
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To: Heartofsong83
A possible reform would be to elect the Prime Minister at large, separate from other MPs as in the Israeli experiment a couple of years ago. To avoid PM's always coming from Quebec and to address the problem of Western alienation, the rules should be changed to require a PM to have support from at least seven of the twelve Canadian political divisions (Provinces And Territories) including support in at least one of the Big Two - Ontario and Quebec. This would create a larger pool of potential PM candidates and force them to appeal across the country rather than just pandering to Quebec. It would build national unity.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
35 posted on 04/02/2005 9:41:31 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Pikamax

Canada is mostly useless space with most of the people stretched across the border. They call themselves a country so they can get away without paying our government any taxes.


36 posted on 04/02/2005 9:48:00 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (Carnac: A siren, a baby and a liberal. Answer: Name three things that whine.)
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To: Pikamax

[To be spoken w/sad, puppy-dog eyes & lip a-quivering]:
"But, but, but, but, I thought Canada was a crime-free Socialist paradise!"


37 posted on 04/02/2005 11:56:43 PM PST by TimeLord (A whale fetus is a whale; a human fetus is a blob.)
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To: Col Freeper

When the PM wishes to, or is forced to, disolve his government he goes to the Governor General and announces his intention to do so. The GG then asks the leader of the opposition if he can form a government. If he can do so and choses to do so there is no election. The opposition leader forms a government. This is actually possible here as the Tories and Bloc together would have a majority of seats in the house. While this is unlikely it is still a possiblity. Most people think the opposition parties will go for an election hoping to pick up seats but they may choose to form a coalition government instead. All the parties are holding emergency meetings this weekend to decide what to do.


38 posted on 04/03/2005 5:19:54 AM PDT by Cdnexpat (Mr Bush, please don't speak to any member of a Liberal government on any topic.)
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To: Cdnexpat; Heartofsong83; goldstategop

All: Thanks for the responses/descriptions. I have my fingers crossed that the leftist Canadian government will fall, just like the Clinton one did in this country.


39 posted on 04/03/2005 3:56:29 PM PDT by Col Freeper (Never argue with an idiot - - those watching may not be able to tell who is the idiot.)
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To: Pikamax

Canada: Where even the Conservatives are liberal


40 posted on 04/03/2005 9:12:36 PM PDT by Liberal_Lies
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To: Liberal_Lies
Liberal Party of Canada:
Election Campaign was funded by B.C. Grow Ops
RCMP had raided BC Prov civil worker files with documents linking the Liberal Party to dope!
That was Sept 2003 and where are the files now?
Must have gone up in smoke just like the Air India files. The workers retired to luxury Turks & Caicos villas.

Pirate Minister Martin, captain of Canada Steam Lines, is full of bilge oil. Pollutes the Canadian east coast daily.
Ahoy Matey!... Welcome to Canadian waters, dump oil here ->
Fines are a joke!

Martin is 100% graft and former PM Chretien has markers on him! That's why old Jean was so smart at the Gomery hearing.
41 posted on 04/03/2005 11:22:55 PM PDT by kroyster
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To: conservative in nyc

The Liberals are scared because they know very well how easy it is to spread rumors - a whispering campaign to spread lies about their political opponents is one of their most effective campaign tools. It would be poetic justice if they were hung with their own rope.


43 posted on 04/04/2005 5:22:30 AM PDT by VVV
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To: LilyBean

RE: Canada's Corruption Scandal Breaks Wide Open: I believe, over decades, Canadians have been quietly socialized to become, more complacent, more apathetic, government dependent, uninvolved, blind followers, towards a more leftist-leaning, socialist-style, government/society. In fact, I believe, Canadian "Progressive Conservatives" or "Conservatives" generally, are further to "the left" in Canada, than U.S. Democrats. There are consistently, publication bans on very significant social/political/legal matters, in Canada; under the guise of, protecting the "innocent until proven guilty" and/or not tainting potential evidence for pending, civil, criminal, or other trials. I believe, the Sponsorship Scandal "Adscam" is one scandal among many, which have been suppressed from public scrutiny....something many are trying to do in the U.S.
The occassional, motivated journalist, who does try to Access Information, is blacklisted and ostracized. Laymen and professionals, who fight for disclosure are similarly blacklisted, suppressed, ostracized and/or ruined. In addition, I believe most Canadians are placated and patronized/lulled into false-security, by politicians for specific self-serving gains. I believe Canadians think they are, so-called, more polite, courteous and possess higher, more positive morals or more considerate, passionate and caring values than most people, especially U.S. citizens. The point here is, CANADIANS do not get involved because they are kept in the dark, they have been conditioned to react passively and are afraid or punished, when they do express dissenting opinions...thus, secrecy and corruption prevails. Leading news media stations/programs, are more interested in surviving and in many cases, are in part or in whole funded directly or indirectly, by Government funding. Journalists and money are limited; nepotism, favouritism and protectionism, is rampant in the news media business, government offices and especially in the public sector business; without scrutiny, let alone inquiry. The aforementioned, follow the "interpreted" rule-of-the-day, without question. BUT NOW, BLOGGERS have ruined the day...the truth is seeping to the surface....and...of course, disclosure has been initiated, via a vehicle located in the U.S. Canadians began to ask questions about issues and the pear-heads in Canada, again, gagged disclosure. My opinion is, if you are guilty, you are guilty; the Canadian government is not interested in protecting the rule of law or civil/criminal procedure, as they represent to be doing; they are really interested in hiding the truth and hiding the process in which they have and will continue to corrupt the law, the process and misrepresent the facts. Thank God for the BLOGGERS and the courage they instill in others!! However, believe me, related politician's, public servants and their cronies, will desperately try to shut the bloggers down, BY ANY MEANS AVAILABLE!!! In fact, recent reports disclose this posting by me, could get me charged. GO FIGURE!!!


44 posted on 04/04/2005 7:18:51 AM PDT by Suppressed Dissenting Voice
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To: highlands_hunter

Yes, my experience is that the general reply of most canadians, when Canadian society/government is questioned is;..why don't you go live there or you American's are ignorant....In fact, ignorance is bliss, isn't it. Signed: An Informed Canadian


46 posted on 04/04/2005 8:41:17 AM PDT by Suppressed Dissenting Voice
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To: Suppressed Dissenting Voice
Yes, my experience is that the general reply of most canadians, when Canadian society/government is questioned is;..why don't you go live there

Seems to me you can have the same experience with the US . Usually followed by a reference to a door hitting you on the ass .

47 posted on 04/04/2005 9:01:25 AM PDT by Snowyman
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To: everyone

As a politically active conservative Canadian, it has never "baffled" me why our country mostly votes Liberal. It has disgusted me, but never "baffled" me. Most analysis above is correct - Canada is the bastion of corrupt elitists that buy the electorate with their own money. If this doesn't snap everyone out of their collective psychosis, nothing will.

By the way, for anyone who has followed Sir Paul Martin over his career, is anyone now unsure why he has been such a "ditherer" lately? He knew what was coming, and it has rattled his nerves completely.


48 posted on 04/04/2005 9:12:39 AM PDT by canbull
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To: Suppressed Dissenting Voice
I would like to give you an accurate analysis on what's going on in Canada politically from a conservative perspective.

Let's clear the air about Conservatives. There is a new Conservative Party of Canada, just over one year old, which is a merger of Canada's two right-wing parties, stopping the vote split on the right. I am very active in Conservative Party of Canada, a true right-wing conservative party founded on principles of individual rights and responsibilities, smaller government, economic strength, etc, all conservative principles. For your information, we are NOT left of the Democrats. When I listened to Arnold's speech at the GOP convention, you could have replaced the phrases "I am a Republican" with "I am a Conservative" and it would have rallied Canadian Conservatives just as much.

In Canada we are in a situation where successive Liberal governments have continually entrenched soviet-style management in the executive branch. We have media censorship (very literally, like in third-world dictatorships), appointed partisan judges that have been given legislative tasks by the Liberal government, government departments that create financial safe-havens where the Auditor General cannot audit the government books adequately, Liberal patronage across the board, appointed partisan senators wielding large Liberal rubber stamps, expensive leftist policies that don't even accomplish the stated goals (like most leftist implementations), a newly proposed government daycare program to compliment the state-run public schools and universities so that everyone born in Canada will be fully indoctrinated Liberal from birth to age 25, no national defense, no economic incentives, no accountability, thanks Liberal Party of Canada.

Conservatives in Canada are fighting harder than ever to end the tyranny of our elected dictatorship. Unfortunately, the Canadian public seems to be apathetic to all of this, no doubt a product of two generations of state-run propaganda in broadcasting and ever-empowered partisan socialist union-pulling school teachers. It is an up-hill battle for Conservatives but we are charging forwards and making serious headway.

Since the merger of Canada's right-wing parties, we are now under one Conservative banner and have ended the vote splitting on the right. We recently had a national convention and even the typically leftist media were giving us rave reviews. The Liberals had better watch out because there is a tory train steaming ahead right to the Prime Minister's Office. Conservatives are growing in strength, numbers, passion for change in Canada, and good old conservative principles.
49 posted on 04/04/2005 9:13:30 AM PDT by NoLeftTurn in Canada
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To: NoLeftTurn in Canada

amen


50 posted on 04/04/2005 9:16:42 AM PDT by canbull
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