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Schiavo's Case May Reshape American Law
NYT ^ | April 1, 2005 | SHERYL GAY STOLBERG

Posted on 04/02/2005 6:48:44 PM PST by FairOpinion

The life and death of Terri Schiavo - intensely public, highly polarizing and played out around the clock on the Internet and television- has become a touchstone in American culture. Rarely have the forces of politics, religion and medicine collided so spectacularly, and with such potential for lasting effect.

Ms. Schiavo, the profoundly incapacitated woman whose family split over whether she would have preferred to live or die, forced Americans into a national conversation about the end of life. Her case raised questions about the role of government in private family decisions.

But her legacy may be that she brought an intense dimension - the issue of death and dying - to the battle over what President Bush calls "the culture of life."

Nearly 30 years after the parents of another brain-damaged woman, Karen Ann Quinlan, injected the phrase "right to die" into the lexicon as they fought to unplug her respirator, Ms. Schiavo's case swung the pendulum in the other direction, pushing the debate toward what Wesley J. Smith, an author of books on bioethics, calls " the right to live."

"This is the counterrevolution," said Mr. Smith, who has been challenging what he calls the liberal assumptions of most bioethicists. "I have been frustrated at how difficult it is to bring the starkness of these issues into a bright public discussion. Schiavo did it."

Experts say that unlike the Quinlan case, which established the concept that families can prevail over the state in end-of-life decisions, the Schiavo case created no major legal precedents. But it could well lead to new laws. Already, some states are considering more restrictive end-of-life measures like preventing the withdrawal of a feeding tube without explicit written directions.

That troubles some medical ethicists and doctors.

"I am concerned about the erosion of a very hard-won multiple-decade process of agreeing that these decisions belong inside families," said Dr. Diane E. Meier, an expert in end-of-life care at the Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York. "We've always said that autonomy and self-determination does trump the infinite value of an individual life, that people have the right to control what is done to their own body. I think that is at risk."

For social conservatives who argue that sanctity of life trumps quality of life, Ms. Schiavo came along at the right place and time, at a moment of their ascendancy in American politics. The election last November kept Mr. Bush in the White House and gave Republicans firmer control of Congress, particularly in the Senate, where conservatives gained several seats.

Among those conservative freshmen is Senator Mel Martinez, Republican of Florida, who prodded Congress to pass a bill allowing a federal court to review the Schiavo case. The move prompted a backlash, with polls showing an overwhelming majority of Americans opposed to it, though there is no way to assess whether that sentiment will have lasting political effects.

"I am amazed by the attention and the passions that have been aroused by this," Mr. Martinez said. "It may be one of those issues that touches families, that transcends the cultural wars."

Others say that far from transcending the cultural wars, Ms. Schiavo's case landed smack in the middle of them.

"It may be that her legacy is to set off an ongoing debate in American public policy about the sanctity of life and how we are going as a society to make decisions about when life begins, when it ends and what protections it ought to have," said Gary L. Bauer, president of American Values, a conservative group.

That language percolates through other debates that involve clashes of medicine, politics and religion like the fights over abortion and embryonic stem cell research.

Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, a Christian conservative group, drew the connection in an e-mail message to backers who mourned Ms. Schiavo.

"We often hear about the culture of life that we are trying to protect," Mr. Perkins wrote, "yet rarely do we talk about the culture of death."

Ms. Schiavo brought these ideas home in a deeply personal way. Her history had a captivating narrative arc and a compelling cast of characters. The patient: Ms. Schiavo, who had lingered for 15 years in what doctors describe as a "persistent vegetative state." The husband: Michael, painted by some as a villainous adulterer as he sought to have her feeding tube withdrawn. The parents: Robert and Mary Schindler, determined to keep their daughter alive.

As the drama unfolded, television viewers could watch Ms. Schiavo on videotape and make a judgment.

"The closest thing to it, but not quite as poignant, are the debates about stem cell research," said Marshall Wittmann, a senior fellow at the Democratic Leadership Council, who became familiar with conservative politics when he worked for the Christian Coalition. "But they deal with diseases that touch upon every family, but not a single individual."

The debate also exposed fissures among Republicans, pitting social conservatives who framed the debate around preserving life against those who favor states' rights and limited government. "There was a philosophical train wreck," Mr. Wittmann said.

The case also fueled conservatives' anger over what they regarded as a runaway judiciary, laying the groundwork for future fights over Mr. Bush's judicial nominees.

"It shows just how much power the courts have usurped from the legislative and executive branches," Mr. Perkins said, "that they now hold within their hands the power of life and death."

The courts have been weighing in on such issues for years. One of the first major cases was in 1976, with Ms. Quinlan. The New Jersey Supreme Court permitted her parents to turn off her respirator.

In 1990, in the case of another brain-damaged woman, Nancy Cruzan, the United States Supreme Court recognized for the first time a right to forgo unwanted treatment. In 1997, Oregon passed an assisted suicide law, letting doctors prescribe lethal doses of medication to terminally ill patients. The Supreme Court has agreed to hear the Bush administration's challenge to the law.

In all these battles, the common theme was that medical technology had run amok, stripping patients of their dignity at the end of their lives.

"In the classic cases around death and dying, they were again and again efforts by families to get the patient out of the medical grip," said David J. Rothman, director of the Center for the Study of Society and Medicine at Columbia University.

The Schiavo case, Professor Rothman said, is "really the effort to force physicians to intervene, rather than force them to desist."

"So you've got a shift here," he said.

That shift made for odd bedfellows. Ralph Nader, the consumer advocate, joined Mr. Smith, the bioethicist, in calling for legal action "to let Terri Schiavo live." Advocates for disability rights prompted Democrats like Senator Tom Harkin of Iowa to take up her cause.

Mr. Martinez, who said his sister suffered a brain disorder that left her unable to communicate at the time she died, called it "a beautiful moment of coming together for a sick and disabled person." He said he intended to work with Mr. Harkin to press Congress to "provide an avenue of due process and legal recourse which may not exist today" for patients like Ms. Schiavo.

Around the country, state lawmakers are contemplating changes, as well. The Alabama Starvation and Dehydration Prevention Act would bar the withdrawal of a feeding tube without explicit written instructions. A lawmaker in Michigan is proposing a measure that would prevent an adulterer from making medical decisions for an incapacitated spouse.

Some medical ethicists say they are horrified. R. Alta Charo, a professor of law and bioethics at the University of Wisconsin, foresees a chilling effect on hospitals and doctors, who may become uncomfortable carrying out a patient's wishes against the backdrop of a family feud. Professor Charo said there was no way for lawmakers to predict all the permutations that play into decisions on death and dying.

"If you go back to Cruzan, the presumption was in favor of extending biological life," she said. "Over the last 30 years, the presumption has slowly shifted toward allowing people to die. What we are seeing is the counterinsurgency."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cruzan; cruzancop; schiavo
"It shows just how much power the courts have usurped from the legislative and executive branches," Mr. Perkins said, "that they now hold within their hands the power of life and death."

Yes, indeed, to the point that now they have the power to withhold food and water, even provided by natural means, from an innocent, defenseless woman, despite the pleases of her parents for her life.

1 posted on 04/02/2005 6:48:46 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

"ORDERED and ADJUDGED that Respondents' Emergency Expedited Motion for Permission to Provide Theresa Schiavo with Food and Water by Natural Means is DENIED"

--- Judge George Greer

http://www.terrisfight.org/documents/030805orderdenyfood.pdf


And his earlier order denying Terri nutrition and hydration by any means:


http://abstractappeal.com/schiavo/trialctorder02-05.pdf


2 posted on 04/02/2005 6:51:46 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

This article just reminds me out how much of a dinosaur the MSM is. There is nothing in this article that hasn't already been more thorougly discussed on FreeRepublic.


4 posted on 04/02/2005 6:53:41 PM PST by monkeyshine
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To: FairOpinion

It damn well better.


5 posted on 04/02/2005 6:54:54 PM PST by SteveMcKing
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To: FairOpinion

*BUMP*!


6 posted on 04/02/2005 6:56:09 PM PST by ex-Texan (Mathew 7:1 through 6)
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To: FairOpinion
Nearly 30 years after the parents of another brain-damaged woman, Karen Ann Quinlan, injected the phrase "right to die" into the lexicon as they fought to unplug her respirator, Ms. Schiavo's case swung the pendulum in the other direction, pushing the debate toward what Wesley J. Smith, an author of books on bioethics, calls "the right to live."

"This is the counterrevolution," said Mr. Smith,

I think a lot of people are beginning to sense that there may be some sort of intersection between "the right to live" and the alleged right to select the time and manner of one's own death. It's gonna be interesting. ;-)

7 posted on 04/02/2005 6:56:41 PM PST by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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To: FairOpinion

"Even a convicted murderer gets their last meal on the same day they die."-Paloma_55

HEALTHFUL DRINKS WITH WARM MEALS SINCE THE ORDER-TO-MURDER-AN-INVALID BY JUDGE GREER
Subhuman scumbag Torturer and Murderer-At-Will Pinellas County Judgenfuhrer Greer ..... 65
..................................................................... Terri Shiavo 0
...................................................................... Lee Malvo 49
................................................................. Scott Peterson 48

8 posted on 04/02/2005 6:56:51 PM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: FairOpinion
In 1990, in the case of another brain-damaged woman, Nancy Cruzan, the United States Supreme Court recognized for the first time a right to forgo unwanted treatment.

How come when the libs mention Nancy, they don't seem to have the gonads to mention that she too was starved and dehydrated to death?

9 posted on 04/02/2005 6:59:49 PM PST by Slyfox
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To: FairOpinion

What I think a careful reading of this article and the various hospital "ethicists" quoted tells us, is exactly what many of us have been saying on these threads. Terri's death will mark a turning point. The judiciary went TOO FAR, and as a result they have undermined a "right to die" which they were trying to protect.

I know it won't be popular to say this, but this is a lesson that Freepers who have been arguing on various threads for Terri's right to die, or Michael's right to speak for her, have misunderstood the situation.

This wasn't about the right to die. But because Judge Greer has behaved so clearly unjustly and illegally, it will actually undermine the right of those who want a "right to die." Judges and hospitals will indeed feel a "chill" and will be less willing to kill their patients for fear of the consequences.

I've said all along that if some people choose to kill themselves, there's not much anyone can do to stop them. But the Euthanasia enthusiasts and NARAL and others who pushed so hard to kill Terri are now going to regret it.


10 posted on 04/02/2005 7:01:41 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Slyfox

I thought the Nancy Cruzan case was that she was on a ventillator, her parents fought to disconnect her, finally did, but she went on breathing and lived another 8 years.

At least back then the judge didn't order the withdrawal of all air from her, only to disconnect her from the ventillator.

Judge Greer, on the other hand didn't just order the removal of the feeding tube, he wanted to make sure that Terri won't start eating and live out her life, so he ordered to not give her any food or water even by natural means.


11 posted on 04/02/2005 7:02:54 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
BREAKING: GOTTA SEE THIS:

BELIEVE IT OR NOT

Clearwater Bar Association 'recognized 'Judge George Greer for his decision to
execute Terri Schindler. They presented the John U. Bird award to the Pinellas-Pasco Circuit judge on May 15, 2004.
This prestigious award, which is the Clearwater bar's highest honor for a judge,
was granted to Judge Greer for the way he has handled himself in the Nazi fashion
(adopted by the Scientologists) of executing by dehydration and starvation while
the victim screams, as in the Terri Schiavo case!


Source 1



Source 2


12 posted on 04/02/2005 7:05:04 PM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: FairOpinion
Her case raised questions about the role of government in private family decisions.

No it didn't.

It raised questions about the court's so-called right to deprive someone (guilty of no crime) of their life.

As if someone thinks that starving to death and murdering your disabled wife/child/husband/parent is a private family matter!

The NYT and the MSM just don't seem to get it.

IDIOTS!

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

13 posted on 04/02/2005 7:08:23 PM PST by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: R. Bolitho
Very biased rubbish. The Guardianship laws were not followed. Neither was there CLEAR and CONVINCING evidence that Terri wanted to be starved to death. In fact, at the time of her collapse, feeding tubes were not an issue, heart and lung machines were.

Amazing that someone who so wanted to die, survived numerous attempts to kill her and lived for 15 years without the therapy and medical aid that would have improved the quality of her life. Unfortunately, one of the reasons Terri had to die, is to insure the world would NEVER learn that truth.

14 posted on 04/02/2005 7:08:45 PM PST by TAdams8591 (Evil succeeds when good men don't do enough!!!!!!)
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To: FairOpinion
"I am concerned about the erosion of a very hard-won multiple-decade process of agreeing that these decisions belong inside families," said Dr. Diane E. Meier, an expert in end-of-life care at the Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York.

Lots of us are concerned.
The government had best stay out of my family's business.

So9

15 posted on 04/02/2005 7:10:28 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: FairOpinion

That was Karen Ann Quinlin who was on the ventilator and then lived for years afterwards. Nancy was starved and dehydrated to death. I remember a quote from one of the nurses in response to a comment that Nancy was nothing but a vegetable: Do carrots cry?


16 posted on 04/02/2005 7:10:33 PM PST by Slyfox
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To: R. Bolitho

BTW, welcome to FR!


17 posted on 04/02/2005 7:11:50 PM PST by TAdams8591 (Evil succeeds when good men don't do enough!!!!!!)
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To: FairOpinion

I think the pope has sucked the air out of the whole question. He proved that a life should be completed and a burden that has been undertaken should be taken to it's natural end.


18 posted on 04/02/2005 7:12:59 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: Servant of the 9

Family disputes have been decided in courts for years, since the inception of this country. Where have you been?


19 posted on 04/02/2005 7:13:44 PM PST by TAdams8591 (Evil succeeds when good men don't do enough!!!!!!)
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To: FairOpinion
"May" reshape American law?

The Terri Schiavo case already had. Death by dehydration and starvation is apparently no longer considered "cruel and unusual", as it is now "kind and usual". After all, the victim goes into a state of "euphoria", and apparently this disconnection of a feeding tube goes on all the time, or so we have it on good authority from Geroge Felos himself. And no crime need be committed for the death sentence to be applied, you just have to be on the wrong side of the outcome at a probate court. A probate court. Not even a criminal court.

And if that does not throw chills into the heart of everybody out there who is able-bodied, or suffering from some infirmity but still performing useful functions in society, it should, because compassion or mercy need no longer be "wasted" on those unfortunate enough to suddenly become dependent and unable to exercise one's potential.

20 posted on 04/02/2005 7:14:54 PM PST by alloysteel ("Master of the painfully obvious.....")
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To: FairOpinion
In 1990, in the case of another brain-damaged woman, Nancy Cruzan, the United States Supreme Court recognized for the first time a right to forgo unwanted treatment.

No it didn't!!

Is the NYT full of idiots or something?

The 1990 case is where the court decided that ~ "that the "right to die" is a liberty protected by the Due Process Clause.",

And I believe the court is wrong and made a terrible mistake - after such mistake as court cases after that are based on the mistake in judgement.

I give my reasons ~

"Our nation's Supreme Court seems to think that the "right to die" is a liberty protected by the Due Process Clause. It may in fact be a liberty, but it is not a fundamental or natural right. While the Ninth Amendment might seem to imply that we have additional fundamental or natural rights, what the court fails to recognize is that, it is not with their power to grant us those additional rights. Those fundamental rights are God given rights, natural rights, i.e., rights we possess by nature and not by law. To give an analogy, I have a right to go to Heaven, it is a liberty that I possess and yet the court cannot grant me that right. Likewise, the court cannot grant me the "right to die", only God can, and only when he chooses."

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

21 posted on 04/02/2005 7:15:01 PM PST by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: R. Bolitho

Thank you for the link. I'd been looking for a copy of Greer's ruling from 2000 all over the web.


22 posted on 04/02/2005 7:16:57 PM PST by Huntress (Possession really is nine tenths of the law.)
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To: TAdams8591
Family disputes have been decided in courts for years, since the inception of this country. Where have you been?

I'm talking about a unanimous family and a Living Will.
There is still an element that wants to make withdsrawal of any kind of life support or treatment illegal.

Like this article from the Weekly Standard.

So9

23 posted on 04/02/2005 7:22:43 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: Servant of the 9
The government had best stay out of my family's business.

And if you are beating the crap out of your wife or starving your children to death, or for that matter kicking your dog.

I will make it MY business! Are we understood?

Have a nice day FRiend ;-)

24 posted on 04/02/2005 7:22:59 PM PST by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: Slyfox

Thanks for the correction, sorry I got Nancy and Karen Ann Quinlin mixed up.


25 posted on 04/02/2005 7:24:02 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Servant of the 9

You will get the needle for that.


27 posted on 04/02/2005 7:27:45 PM PST by The Red Zone (Go to Florida, the sun-shame state, to be schiavoed, to greer someone, and to felos a patient.)
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To: FairOpinion
....due process...

....due process....

...due process...

Does that mean it is okay to have a court order for execution (no nutrition nor hydration) for any reason found acceptable to a court or instituted law as long as due process has been followed? And since it is not 'punishment,' cruelty is allowed, right?

28 posted on 04/02/2005 7:28:28 PM PST by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: Servant of the 9

It is immoral to withdraw food and water from someone or for someone to ask someone to do so. It corrupts the people who do it and the medical system in general.


29 posted on 04/02/2005 7:34:15 PM PST by TAdams8591 (Evil succeeds when good men don't do enough!!!!!!)
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To: FairOpinion
"I am concerned about the erosion of a very hard-won multiple-decade process of agreeing that these decisions belong inside families," said Dr. Diane E. Meier, an expert in end-of-life care at the Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York. "We've always said that autonomy and self-determination does trump the infinite value of an individual life, that people have the right to control what is done to their own body. I think that is at risk."

Well, Madam (the irony of "Mt. Sinai" where Moses got the message "thou shalt not kill") you've also said that the procedure for getting there can be so sloppy as to be able to bring down a broad swath of the unwilling-to-be-starved. States are getting ready to say no to that overkill, that such a choice at the least must have been executed with more gravitas and determined with more certitude.

Also -- if you were so afraid of this why didn't you tell Michael Schiavo to back off and not create such a monstrously bad example before the whole nation?

30 posted on 04/02/2005 7:39:36 PM PST by The Red Zone (Go to Florida, the sun-shame state, to be schiavoed, to greer someone, and to felos a patient.)
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To: eccentric

I agree with the line that says these are very complicated cases. Add to that the inexorable march of scientific progress, and I, for one, think that the politicians should stay out of it.


31 posted on 04/02/2005 7:44:49 PM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: Diogenesis

Greer devoted all that time and energy to guarantee Terri's right to be eradicated and all he gets for his efforts is the Bird?


32 posted on 04/02/2005 7:47:28 PM PST by isrul
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To: FairOpinion
In Honor of Terri Schiavo

Please let it load -- it's 11 mb.

Have headphones or sound on.

Hats off to the invisib1e hand for his dedication and hard work.

33 posted on 04/02/2005 8:07:11 PM PST by lafroste (gravity is not a force. See my profile to read my novel absolutely free (I know, beyond shameless))
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To: FairOpinion
Nearly 30 years after the parents of another brain-damaged woman, Karen Ann Quinlan, injected the phrase "right to die" into the lexicon as they fought to unplug her respirator

Hmm, a right is something you can choose to exercise or not. I have a right to carry arms, but I choose not to. If I have a right to die, I should be able to choose not to. Yet, somehow, I think that whatever I choose is irrelevant--death is not a right, but an inevitability that is going to happen no matter how much I try to choose otherwise.

34 posted on 04/02/2005 8:21:50 PM PST by exDemMom (Death is beautiful, to those who hate their own lives.)
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To: lafroste
It's rude to spam threads with plugs to your own creation, no matter how wonderful it may be, without including in your posts something that indicates you're at least reading the thread in question and your post is relevant to it.

I would advise that a good approach is probably to post meaningful responses to threads, and include a .signature block 0.5" high or so with a plug to your multimedia creation. If you can explain ways in which your creation would be relevant to the post you're responding to, that would be even better.

35 posted on 04/02/2005 8:33:13 PM PST by supercat ("Though her life has been sold for corrupt men's gold, she refuses to give up the ghost.")
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To: supercat

Actually, its not my creation. But I'll take your criticism under advisement.


36 posted on 04/02/2005 8:36:33 PM PST by lafroste (gravity is not a force. See my profile to read my novel absolutely free (I know, beyond shameless))
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To: Servant of the 9
You talk tough, but I doubt you're bulletproof.

Sounds like a death threat to me. Hall monitors? FBI?

37 posted on 04/02/2005 8:42:17 PM PST by steve86
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To: FairOpinion
Despite all the ancillary issues surrounding this case, the crux of the matter was that the parents of the patient desperately wanted her to live and were willing to care for her on their own. The state decided in favor of death benefiting an ex-husband, for all but technical reasons, who had a vested interest in her death. Parents who love her and will care for her vs. a husband who doesn't and will financially and socially benefit from her death. That was the issue decided.
38 posted on 04/02/2005 10:37:10 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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To: FairOpinion

The Pope used the term 'dignity' as something that could apply to the very end of life. For the Pope, there is no question he had that dignity. But the term was also applied to TS, and it is hard to see how dignity applies to that case.


39 posted on 04/02/2005 10:40:52 PM PST by RightWhale (50 trillion sovereign cells working together in relative harmony)
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To: RightWhale

Terri Schiavo had no choice about her dignity, for she was murdered and no help came.


40 posted on 04/02/2005 11:23:38 PM PST by tessalu
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To: FairOpinion
In 1990, in the case of another brain-damaged woman, Nancy Cruzan, the United States Supreme Court recognized for the first time a right to forgo unwanted treatment

??? Cruzan's right to forgo unwanted treatment???

"[Nancy Cruzan, three days before her death from starvation] turned and looked at me and stared at me with a panicky look, sweating profusely, and the thought I had was, she was thinking, ‘Oh, here’s a policeman, he’ll help me.’ But we weren’t allowed to do that,"...Doug Seneker

41 posted on 04/03/2005 12:26:44 AM PST by syriacus (Weird George Felos repeatedly flicked his tongue out his gaping mouth when lying to the press 3/31)
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To: syriacus

bttt


42 posted on 04/03/2005 7:04:07 AM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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