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Schiavo 's parents sought, were denied own expert to observed autopsy
Tampa Bay's 10 ^ | April 2, 2005 | AP

Posted on 04/02/2005 7:17:15 PM PST by FairOpinion

TAMPA, Fla. (AP) - Legal setbacks for Terri Schiavo's parents continue even after the brain-damaged woman's death.

The Pinellas County Medical Examiner's Office denied the parents' request to have independent medical experts observe Schiavo's autopsy has been denied.

Over their seven-years-long legal battle, Bob and Mary Schindler sought independent investigation of their daughter's condition. They wanted to select a neuropathologist and a forensic expert to observe her autopsy.

The autopsy was completed yesterday. Results are not expected for several weeks.

Terri Schiavo's body was cremated today. Her husband plans to bury her remains in a family plot in Pennsylvania. He is required to tell the Schindlers about any memorial services he plans for her, and where the ashes are interred.

The Schindlers have planned their own memorial service for their daughter Tuesday night in Gulfport.


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KEYWORDS: autopsy; schiavo; schiavoautopsy
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To: SoCar
Not a race, just a class: the disabled, who are considered to be living lives that are not worth living.
21 posted on 04/02/2005 7:52:30 PM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: harpo11

"I heard today that there is a move to ask Gov. Jeb Bush to appoint an independent counsel to investigate Terri's case."

I hope he does.

BTW, I just found this excellent Ann Coulter article on the murder of Terri. It was posted a few days ago, but I missed it. If anyone else missed it, be sure to read it.


The emperor's new robes [Ann Coulter on the death of Terri Schiavo]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1374179/posts

Also on the pro-killing side are conservatives still pissed off about the Civil Rights Act of 1964 who are desperately hoping to be elected "most consistent constitutionalist" by their local Federalist Society chapters.

You can't grow peanuts on your own land or install a toilet capable of disposing two tissues in one flush because of federal government intervention. But Congress demands a review of the process that goes into a governmental determination to kill an innocent American woman – and that goes too far!

It's not a radical extension of current constitutional doctrines – even the legitimate ones! – for the federal government to assert a constitutional right to life that cannot be denied without due process of law under the Fifth and 14th Amendments. Congress didn't ask for much, just the same due process John Wayne Gacy got.

But people even stupider than lawyers have picked up on the vague rumblings from "most consistent constitutionalist" aspirants and begun to claim that Congress' action is an affront to "limited government."

Of course, the most limited of all possible governments is a king. We don't have that sort of "limited government." What we have is divided government: three branches of government at the federal level and 50 states with their own versions of checks and balances.

Or at least that was the government designed for us by men smarter than we are. We haven't had that sort of government for decades.

Alexander Hamilton's famous last words in "The Federalist" described the judiciary as the "least dangerous branch," because it had neither force nor will. Now the judiciary is the most dangerous branch. It doesn't need force because it has smoke and mirrors and a lot of people defending the moronic scribblings of any judge as the perfect efflorescence of "the rule of law."

This week, an indisputably innocent woman will be killed by the government for one reason: Judge Greer of Pinellas County, Fla., ordered it.

Polls claim that a majority of Americans objected to action by the U.S. Congress in the Schiavo case as "government intrusion" into a "private family matter" – as if Judge Greer is not also the government. So twisted is our view of the judiciary that a judicial decree is treated like a naturally occurring phenomenon, like a rainbow or an act of God.

Our infallible, divine ruler is a county judge in Florida named George Greer, who has more authority in America than the U.S. Congress, the president and the governor. No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church!

It's a good system if you like monarchy and legally sanctioned murder. But spare me the paeans to "strict constructionism" and "limited government."



22 posted on 04/02/2005 7:54:25 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: SoCar

I think Diogenisis is right on the mark.

It has been well established that the German death machine began with Euthanasia, and moved on from there. First it was the useless eaters, and eventually it was the Jews. Also Gypsies, Poles, and others who were considered to be useless.


23 posted on 04/02/2005 7:54:28 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: FairOpinion
The Pinellas County Medical Examiner's Office denied the parents' request to have independent medical experts observe Schiavo's autopsy has been denied.

From a Reuter's story filed today:

Michael Schiavo's lawyer George Felos said that his client hoped an autopsy would dispel doubts that he was trying to hide something by seeking to cremate his wife's body.

I would guess the Pinellas County Medical Examiner's decision guarantees their secret autopsy will not dispel anything.  Especially now that the body has been cremated.

The ME must be incompetent.  Otherwise, they would have extended professional courtesy to the Schindler's forensic pathologist, Dr..Wecht.  Clearly, they do not want a recognized pathologist/corner looking at whatever it is they don't want seen.

24 posted on 04/02/2005 7:56:13 PM PST by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: MizSterious
The judge took the word of Terri's husband that she did not want to live this way. I didn't believe that but Greer did. There is no effort underway to exterminate disabled people. Though I also agree that it is an ominous sign that we would allow Terri to die this way. Can we please not post photos of Concentration Camp victims? That was an atrocity unto itself and invoking it will not help our side gather supporters. It is over the top. IMHO.
25 posted on 04/02/2005 7:56:47 PM PST by SoCar (Refugee from NJ)
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To: Cicero

It is the Pinellas County ME who did the autopsy. I think the whole county is rotten to the core.


26 posted on 04/02/2005 7:56:55 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: harpo11
I heard today that there is a move to ask Gov. Jeb Bush to appoint an independent counsel to investigate Terri's case.

Without a body, that'll be a hard thing to do.

27 posted on 04/02/2005 7:57:46 PM PST by Nita Nupress (Let's get back to Hillery, please.)
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To: SoCar

If you believe that, the shyster Felos has a nice bridge to sell you.


28 posted on 04/02/2005 8:00:05 PM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Diogenesis
In Honor of Terri Schiavo

Please let it load -- it's 11 mb.

Have headphones or sound on.

Hats off to the invisib1e hand for his dedication and hard work.

29 posted on 04/02/2005 8:04:08 PM PST by lafroste (gravity is not a force. See my profile to read my novel absolutely free (I know, beyond shameless))
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To: MizSterious
If you believe that, the shyster Felos has a nice bridge to sell you

Believe what? I don't believe anything that scum Felos has to say. I simply don't like the concentration camp pictures and the Nazi flag analogies. It's awful, but not the same. She was allowed to die this way because people were convinced that she was already "dead" and would have preferred not to exist this way. I do not agree and think it's horrible. Especially when a loving family wanted to care for her. But Nazi Germany it is not.

30 posted on 04/02/2005 8:07:15 PM PST by SoCar (Refugee from NJ)
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To: FairOpinion
Wonderful post, and thank you for Ann Coulter's article.

Another observation, the Supreme Court is interferring with parental rights to take care of their children's medical needs. The government schools have been given at federal mandate that children age 12 and older can seek medical attention without their parent's permission.

Now I ask, is this not another example of the Feds getting involved in our homes?

31 posted on 04/02/2005 8:08:13 PM PST by harpo11 (Sandy Document Stuffed Underwear Berger gets a slap on his wrist.Terri Schiavo got starved to death.)
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To: Cicero

Absolutely. It's a dark and craven road the State of Florida's Judiciary has embarked upon.


32 posted on 04/02/2005 8:11:00 PM PST by harpo11 (Sandy Document Stuffed Underwear Berger gets a slap on his wrist.Terri Schiavo got starved to death.)
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To: SoCar
It was one person who unfortunately for her had a rotten husband and a bad judge. It was a "perfect storm" of everything going against Terri.

No, there's more to it than that. I don't know exactly how much more, but there's something very big and very evil behind the effort. Considering that it was necessary to pass new legislation to authorize Terri's execution, I don't think people would be going through so much trouble to kill Terri if they weren't expecting their efforts to clear the way for many more killings.

The new killing program in this country isn't going to be based on race, but unless something is done to stop it, an age-based killing program will be gearing up within the next few decades.

33 posted on 04/02/2005 8:11:58 PM PST by supercat ("Though her life has been sold for corrupt men's gold, she refuses to give up the ghost.")
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To: FairOpinion

Let me guess the Pinellas county ME is part of the Mike Schaivo conspiracy too? Please she's dead move on.


34 posted on 04/02/2005 8:13:14 PM PST by StoneColdTaxHater
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To: SoCar

How many bodies then would it take to convince you that he (Diogenesis) is not over the top?

Judge Greer did his evil deed under the law and in broad daylight in front of the whole nation. That is something even Hitler never accomplished, although he was planning on making it "legal" after the war was won.


35 posted on 04/02/2005 8:15:20 PM PST by planekT
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To: StoneColdTaxHater

So why didn't he allow Dr. Cyril H. Wecht, the well-known forensic pathologist and coroner of Allegheny County, Pennsylvania, to observe the autopsy? Considering everything, one would think he would welcome an independent observer -- unless he wants to hide something.


36 posted on 04/02/2005 8:16:56 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
I don't understand why did the Florida ME deny their request.

Maybe the ME didn't want the autopsy to turn into a circus...
37 posted on 04/02/2005 8:18:12 PM PST by ReeWalker
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To: ReeWalker

How is allowing Dr. Cyril H. Wecht, the well-known forensic pathologist and coroner of Allegheny County, Pennsylvania, to observe the autopsy "a circus".

Please explain.


38 posted on 04/02/2005 8:19:23 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: supercat
There may be more to it as you suggest. I also am suspicious of some cozy relationships going on in Pinellas County. But Nazi Germany analogies turn people off to the facts and close their minds to just how horrific this was. IMHO.
39 posted on 04/02/2005 8:19:34 PM PST by SoCar (Refugee from NJ)
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To: ReeWalker

Maybe they didn't want their evil circus of death to be turned into an autopsy.

Maybe?


40 posted on 04/02/2005 8:20:40 PM PST by planekT
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