Posted on 04/02/2005 7:17:15 PM PST by FairOpinion
I suppose the Congress and the Bush brothers are impotent to intervene in this judicial travesty too.
Hitler had a grand plan that included the extermination of the Jewish race. He spelled that out for all to see although few listened.What happened here to Terri was a grotesque aberration in the law enabled by a compromised "husband" and a suspect judge. This was not a part of a grand scheme. More an evil aberration allowed by a legal loophole that we must prevent in the future.
Sick and evil yes. Nazi Germany no.
Excuse me SoCar, but why don't you drop the concern over the Nazi comparisons and stick to the SUBJECT intended by the thread's poster......that a well respected outside, independent observer was not allowed at the Medical Examination?
Leave the thread to those who want to talk about the subject raised in the beginning.
Discounting the Hemlock Society and the the other Euthanasia groups - and the many who have have already been "allowed" to die this way - we can't hide our heads in the sand. Terri's case was the second such case that got wide publicity because the families disagreed and fought it out in the courts -
Hitler started his exterminations first with the sick and handicapped...Shall we wait for step 2?
Congratulations.
It started with the euthanizing of the mentally ill. This policy was underway even before Hitler took power; it helped acclimate Germans to the idea that some lives aren't worthy to be allowed to continue; it thus laid the groundwork for the Holocaust.
Agreed. This has just strung me out and made me a little paranoid. I don't know why we have to read in a British newspaper that the family was denied even a small portion of her ashes and lock of her hair. I don't know if it is true or not.
I had a Jewish friend who became very depressed and refused to eat and ended up killing himself. It's something you don't ever forget. His wife's parents escaped here, but the rest of the entire family was wiped out.
Then I met a guy at work who was a Christian missionary who tried to pull the BS on me that the Holocaust never happened. Handed me a paperback book. I took it because I wanted to see how anybody could attempt to propagandize that way. I didn't read the whole book, but I flipped through it and caught the drift. It was my first exposure to revisionism.
It made me sick.
I asked my neighbor about it before he died, one who had gone on one lung for years (shot out in the war) and who I suspect was overdosed with chemo in a Veteran's hospital. One day he is well enough to go on a bus 60 miles to the hospital and spend the whole day there and come home and say, "Yeah, it's terminal." Within a week he was back up there and given a heavy dose of something which caused him to go into respiratory failure, and he died within 2 or 3 days.
Before that happened, I asked him about it, and he said very emphatically, "I was there when they liberated the camps. I SAW it." I think he said he smelled it, too, but I don't like to misrepresent things and don't remember it was quite awhile back now.
Not that I ever doubted. It's just odd how these things intertwine. I ended up going to a Holocaust memorial with my Jewish girlfriend whom I hadn't seen in years, the sister of the brother who had committed suicide, and they had some speakers who told their stories. That was at the local synagogue. One of the speakers seemed on the defensive and indignant. I felt shamed that they had to defend themselves these many years later.
I hope I didn't say anything inappropriate. My first knowledge of man's inhumanity to man came from reading about the Jews and the death camps, medical experiments, etc., when I was a child of about 8 or so. My parents didn't talk about it, but I was not allowed to have any stamps of Hitler in my stamp collection, and I understood why.
When I was in Amsterdam, I couldn't go into Anne Frank's house. But I couldn't go to the Tower of London either. Everybody else went.
What in the world is a compromised husband?
Who compromised poor Michael?
this sort of head in the sand blindness is exactly how Hitler got as far as he did. Long before he got to the Poles and Jews, he exterminated the handicapped and severely ill. The German people at first thought like you do today.
"He who forgets history is doomed to repeat it"
You might get a real chill if you read up on Hitler BEFORE the war. Oh, and another similarity - He first took over the schools and indoctrinated the children...sound familiar?
Why does he need his arm twisted to intervene in this obvious travesty and coverup? Not that his "intervention" would matter anyway; he'll simply ask a local judge to give him permission to intervene and Terri Schiavo's body will be cremated while he waits for the judge to deny his request.
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Ditto, for what it's worth.
Why do you believe the people involved in Terri's murder would go through the trouble of getting a law passed to allow it? Would it make any sense for them to go through all that trouble to kill one helpless woman?
I don't know the exact scope of the plan, but it's clearly a lot bigger than an effort to murder one helpless woman, I can guarantee you that.
As to whether it extends to the ME's office, I doubt Greer would have allowed an autopsy if it didn't. There was most likely a reason for not allowing an independent observer at the autopsy. Too bad we'll never know for sure what an honest autopsy would have shown.
I despise what happened to Terri Schiavo and wish to address it without any Nazi overtones. It is sick on its own.
I am a Jew am very sensitive to analogies that are by themselves abhorrent without any racial references. They are more powerful that way and I wish to preserve them as such.
The nazi references are pathetic. They diminish what really happened to Terri...by trying to twist it into something other than what it was. Terri's situation stands on it's own. It does not need false propping up with Nazi imagery. Dio's own opinion notwithstanding.
This thread was not hijacked by me, but it was taken over by the photos of starving concentration camp victims (my relatives) and the Nazi flag.
Here's my thank you. THANK YOU!
I also believe an independent ME should have been present at Terri's autopsy. I think it is a crime that one was not. I still feel that I must address the Nazi photos. They affect me deeply.
You need to research the history of Statute 765, and the planning that went into THAT law. You might be rethinking your points after reading that.
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