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Isn't It Time We Said Goodbye To Fenway Park?
The Boston Globe ^ | 4/03/05 | Michael Ryan

Posted on 04/03/2005 3:22:42 PM PDT by raccoonradio

The best movie ever made about baseball in Boston was a 1962 film by the Spanish surrealist Luis Bunuel, called The Exterminating Angel. The plot is twisted: People arrive for a dinner party, enjoy themselves, get drunk, snipe at one another, and trade gossip. Then, when the time comes to go home, they stand up, they approach the door. But not one of them can bring himself to pass through that door. They know that the party's over; they cannot leave it. Soon, this group becomes a sensation in the city. Townspeople gather on the street, staring, wondering why the party won't end, long after it has ceased to be fun.

Think of Fenway Park as that dinner party.

One week from tomorrow, a world champion Red Sox team will take the field here for the first time since 1919. It will be a moment of triumph, the culmination of bold and brilliant decisions by a front office willing to try anything in pursuit of victory, even trading the storied Nomar, a player no one had ever envisioned wearing any uniform but a Boston one. Just two weeks ago, the ownership group announced that it is more committed to Fenway than ever. It's a shame, because, in truth, will there ever be a better time to say goodbye to Fenway than now, when the fabled curse has been lifted, the stadium has at last fulfilled its mission, the fans are more passionate than ever, and the city is embracing its team and its owners as it has no other franchise in history?

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 2004world; baseball; baseballstadiums; bostonredsox; champions; fenwaypark; massachusetts
Great park, lots of tradition (starring in "Fever Pitch", coming to a theatre near you), but: seats designed to fit the bodies (and fannies) of fans from nearly a century ago. Lousy viewing angle from right field! Cramped seats, tough to get to bathrooms and food, overpriced, etc. Other than that it's great. (And yes, no need to tell me, I'll say it myself: Shut up and enjoy your championship, raccoonradio...) Oh well...all I know is when I go to parks like Jacobs Field in Cleveland, I LOVE the room! How easy it is to get to the food, bathrooms, etc.

Well they paid $700 million for the team so I guess there's no money left over for a new park. Keep Fenway alive, I guess. But still... :)


1 posted on 04/03/2005 3:22:43 PM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

>>For decades, Fenway Park has turned the heads of visiting sportswriters and broadcasters. "Guys like George Will and Bob Costas come in and want to romanticize Fenway Park," (WEEI talk show host Ted) Sarandis complains. "But how many times have they had to sit in Section 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5? You sit in sections 6, 7, 8, or 9, you could get a crick in your neck from having to turn to the left all the time; you're looking straight at center field."


2 posted on 04/03/2005 3:25:08 PM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

Save Fenway----The Fleet has never come up to the old Garden.

Some things are sacred and should be left alone----Sox fans aren't wusses,they can take the punishment of the Grand Old Man of ballparks.


3 posted on 04/03/2005 3:36:24 PM PDT by Mears ("The Killer Queen,caviar and cigarettes")
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To: raccoonradio

If ya don't like the seats at fenway, lose some weight. :)


4 posted on 04/03/2005 3:41:06 PM PDT by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: raccoonradio
I saw the Tigers play a game at old Tiger Stadium and had great seats, behind home plate. It was very cool to be in an old stadium, but there was no leg room, the aisles and halls were narrow and hard to navigate. All ballparks experience functional obsolescence sooner or later.
5 posted on 04/03/2005 3:41:48 PM PDT by socal_parrot (Free Republic, rooms available due to unexpected cancellations.)
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To: raccoonradio
NO!
6 posted on 04/03/2005 3:43:36 PM PDT by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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To: raccoonradio

The best park in MLB is PNC Park, home of the Pittsburgh Basement Dwellers, I mean, Pirates.


7 posted on 04/03/2005 3:44:03 PM PDT by steel_resolve
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To: raccoonradio
More accurate headline:

Isn't It Time We Said Goodbye To Pretentious Baseball Writers Who Begin Their Stories With Luis Bunuel References?

8 posted on 04/03/2005 3:44:56 PM PDT by JennysCool (Support bacteria - they're the only culture some people have.)
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To: raccoonradio

If they tear down Fenway, somebody's going to try to convince the Cubs to tear down Wrigley.

And while Fenway isn't anything special, Wrigley is the perfect ball-park.


9 posted on 04/03/2005 3:45:52 PM PDT by jdege
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To: raccoonradio
Yeah, and while we're at it, let's get rid of the Green Line and Durgin Park and let's develop that useless space bordered by Beacon, Charles, Tremont and Park.

<sigh>The good old Boston Globe.

10 posted on 04/03/2005 3:45:58 PM PDT by cloud8 (I donít do carrots. --John Bolton)
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To: raccoonradio

Given the way the Big Dig has turned out, a Fenway replacement would cost two billion dollars and line the pockets of every union thug and Democrat politician in Massachusetts.


11 posted on 04/03/2005 3:47:49 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: Mr. Jeeves

I went to Fenway for the first time last year. It is the best place to watch a ball game that I've ever been to and I've beem to quite a few


12 posted on 04/03/2005 3:52:53 PM PDT by roj
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To: Mr. Jeeves

And the sprinkler system would leak and leave the outfield a soggy mess.


13 posted on 04/03/2005 3:52:56 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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Ted Williams was a " Mexican-American " ? News to me !


14 posted on 04/03/2005 3:55:20 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant
NO!

A compromise..Tear it down an build a super Wal-Mart!

15 posted on 04/03/2005 4:00:39 PM PDT by ExtremeUnction
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To: raccoonradio

Fenway Park is too small. They should build a new park outside downtown, maybe over by Schenectady.


16 posted on 04/03/2005 4:04:41 PM PDT by RightWhale (50 trillion sovereign cells working together in relative harmony)
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To: JennysCool
"More accurate headline: Isn't It Time We Said Goodbye To Pretentious Baseball Writers Who Begin Their Stories With Luis Bunuel References?"

LOL! And the author doesn't even live in Boston anymore, so why should he care:

"Michael Ryan is a freelance writer in New York who grew up in the Boston area."

17 posted on 04/03/2005 4:16:01 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'chaim!)
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To: raccoonradio
Rehab it. Don't destroy it.

Phillip Bess came up with some solid design proposals for doing just that - keeping Fenway, but updating it for the 21st century.

18 posted on 04/03/2005 4:19:38 PM PDT by The Iguana
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To: roj
It is the best place to watch a ball game that I've ever been to and I've beem to quite a few

I'm not much of a baseball fan, but I know it would be insane to touch Fenway Park. About 35 years ago, when I was going to college in the area, I attended a game there just for the heck of it. It turned out to be a great game, with the Red Sox making a terrific 8th inning comeback that just fell short.

If all you want to do is watch a baseball game, you can watch any number of them on TV for free. If you want rich atmosphere and a real live experience, then you go to battered but historic old Fenway Park. Getting rid of Fenway would be like getting rid of Wrigley Field or Lambeau Field -- it would be cutting the game off from its deepest roots.

19 posted on 04/03/2005 4:30:38 PM PDT by dpwiener
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To: The Iguana
Rehab it. Don't destroy it.

Shouldn't that be "Fix It; Don't Nix It?"
20 posted on 04/03/2005 4:34:01 PM PDT by piperpilot
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To: raccoonradio

I've always maintained that they should put a roof on it and make it the new home of the Major League Baseball Hall of Fame. Now that the Red Slobs have won a Series, it would be a bigger draw.


21 posted on 04/03/2005 4:34:09 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Information is power and power is nothing without control.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Given the way the Big Pig turned out, I'd say MA has bigger problems than Fenway. Kennedy and Kerry and Barney and Marty all are far better examples of the need for change.

It's a great old dinosaur, so leave it alone.
22 posted on 04/03/2005 4:35:35 PM PDT by ishabibble
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To: piperpilot
"Rehab it. Don't destroy it."

Shouldn't that be "Fix It; Don't Nix It?"

Hey bub, aren't you the guy what writes the headlines for Variety?

- IIG, a fellow Piper (Tomahawk) pilot

23 posted on 04/03/2005 4:48:45 PM PDT by IonImplantGuru (Pereant qui ante nos nostra dixerunt. (May they perish who have expressed our bright ideas before us)
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To: raccoonradio

I haven't been to Fenway in 15 years or more. If I were there I'd love to go, but my brother tells me the cost is seldom worth it any more. Dogs and burgers are over priced, seats are (well, see above), beer is over-priced, and parking impossible. But that's pretty much true no matter where you go these days.


24 posted on 04/03/2005 4:50:20 PM PDT by theDentist (The Dems are putting all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: raccoonradio

Hey, I suggest we sell them Yankee Stadium, for let's say
two billion or so. Imagine that, after 90 years, they finally win something and the fans want to build a 20th century park for their team to play in. The curse has started again, so me say they consider replacing it in 2090 or so. GO YANKEES.


25 posted on 04/03/2005 4:53:19 PM PDT by conshack
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To: escapefromboston

>>If ya don't like the seats at fenway, lose some weight. :)

It's kind of tough to get down to 85 pounds like Michael Jackson!


26 posted on 04/03/2005 4:54:16 PM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

Wreck Fenway!!!! Blasphemy!!!!!!!


27 posted on 04/03/2005 4:55:55 PM PDT by TXBSAFH (Never underestimate the power of human stupidity--Robert Heinlein)
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To: jdege

If they tear down Fenway, somebody's going to try to convince the Cubs to tear down Wrigley.

And while Fenway isn't anything special, Wrigley is the perfect ball-park.

Perhaps a new Fenway could be Boston's second "Big Dig". Hope they have about 20 Billion to spare.


28 posted on 04/03/2005 4:59:14 PM PDT by conshack
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To: raccoonradio

I never said hello.


29 posted on 04/03/2005 5:00:24 PM PDT by Drango (tag line under repair)
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To: raccoonradio
Keep Fenway

Dump the Red Sox.

They used to be lovable losers. They now have nothing left to recommend them. They are the epitome of sore winner and low class.
30 posted on 04/03/2005 5:02:04 PM PDT by Phsstpok ("When you don't know where you are, but you don't care, you're not lost, you're exploring.")
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To: LibFreeOrDie

"Isn't It Time We Said Goodbye To Pretentious Baseball Writers Who Begin Their Stories With Luis Bunuel References?"

LOL, it is indeed!


31 posted on 04/03/2005 5:12:02 PM PDT by jocon307 (We can try to understand the New York Times effect on man)
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To: JennysCool

Isn't it time to get rid of the traitorous, communistic, reprehensible, and useless Boston Glob?


32 posted on 04/03/2005 5:40:07 PM PDT by Killborn (Liberals. The greatest threat to mankind, morality, civilization, cute puppies and fuzzy bunnies.)
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To: JennysCool

Isn't it time we said goodbye to the traitorous, communistic, reprehensible, and useless Boston Glob?


33 posted on 04/03/2005 5:41:40 PM PDT by Killborn (Liberals. The greatest threat to mankind, morality, civilization, cute puppies and fuzzy bunnies.)
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To: escapefromboston
If ya don't like the seats at fenway, lose some weight. :)

It's not just weight. If you are 6 foot 2 or over, and sitting in the box seats, then your knees are pressed against the top of the seat back in front of you, unless you awkwardly try to stuff your feet under your own seat, and that puts you in such an uncomfortable position that most can only do it for short periods of time.
34 posted on 04/03/2005 5:47:48 PM PDT by BansheeBill
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To: The Iguana
Rehab it. Don't destroy it.

My sentiments exactly.

It is one of the last old-time ballparks and has a ton of character which many of the new ones do not. They should modernize it while still keeping the flavor of the original.

35 posted on 04/03/2005 8:13:24 PM PDT by L_Von_Mises
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