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Saint's Prophecy: Only Two Popes Remain
newsmax ^ | 4/3/05 | newsmax

Posted on 04/03/2005 4:19:28 PM PDT by paltz

When the cardinals of the world pick John Paul II's successor, they may well be choosing the next-to-last pope.

The pope who then follows this choice in the Chair of St. Peter will be the last pope, and after his reign Rome will be destroyed.

Such has been the prophecy of St. Malachy, an Irish bishop who at his death in 1148 A.D. was discovered to have left behind a prophetic list of all future popes beginning with Pope Celestine II, whose papacy began in 1143 A.D.

Malachy included a single line in Latin identifying a characteristic of each pope.

Historians say Malachy's prediction – wherein he listed just 112 popes – has been amazingly accurate.

According to his list, there are just two more popes after the late John Paul II.

Here are the seven last popes as identified from St. Malachy's list:

106. Pius XII 1939 - 1958
Eugenio Pacelli

Pastor Angelicus

Translated: An Angelic Shepherd

107. John XXIII 1968 - 1963
Angelo Giuseppe Roncalli

Pastor Et Natua

Translated: Pastor and Mariner

108. Paul VI 1963 - 1978
Giovanni Battista Montini

Flos Florum

Translated: Flower of Flowers

109. John Paul I 1978 - 1978
Albino Luciani

De Medietate Lunae

Translated: Of the Half Moon

110. John Paul II 1978 - 2005

Karol Jozef Wojtyla

De Labore Solis

Translated: From the Toil of the Sun

111. The next pope
"Gloria Olivae"

Translated: The Glory of the Olive

112. The last pope!
"Petrus Romanus"

Translated: Peter the Roman

Wrote St. Malachy of the last pope: "In extreme persecution, the seat of the Holy Roman Church will be occupied by Peter the Roman, who will feed the sheep through many tribulations, at the term of which the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the formidable Judge will judge the people. The End."

According to his biographer St. Bernard of Clairvaux, in his book "Life of Saint Malachy," the saint was known to have the gift of prophesy and had even predicted the exact day and hour of his own death. Saint Malachy was canonized in 1190 by Pope Clement III.

While in Rome in 1139, Saint Malachy is said to have gone into a trance and received a vision in which he foresaw all the popes from the death of Innocent II until the end of time.

Afterward he wrote a few words about each pope and gave the manuscript to Pope Innocent II, who is said to have deposited it in Vatican Archives, where it lay forgotten until it was discovered in 1590 and published. At the time, some questioned its authenticity and it has been the subject of debate ever since.

The manuscript contains 112 prophecies, which scholars have matched with each of the 110 popes and anti-popes since Innocent II .

Here are the prophecies for the most recent popes:



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1 posted on 04/03/2005 4:19:28 PM PDT by paltz
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To: paltz

Is it not feasible that we're talking about space ships and extraterrestrials when we discuss Rapture?

I don't really care, so long as they're not here for dinner...


3 posted on 04/03/2005 4:25:14 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: paltz

NewsMax has gone supermarket tabloid?


4 posted on 04/03/2005 4:25:55 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: paltz
--and what did Nostradmus say?---oh, that's right -he had the world ending in 1996--never mind---
5 posted on 04/03/2005 4:26:15 PM PDT by rellimpank (urban dwellers don' t understand the cultural deprivation of not being raised on a farm)
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To: Great Prophet Zarquon

You don't believe in prophecy?


6 posted on 04/03/2005 4:27:43 PM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: paltz

Another fine bit of non-news from NewsMuck.


7 posted on 04/03/2005 4:27:55 PM PDT by Clara Lou (I'm not pro-death, I'm anti-hysteria.)
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To: expatguy
"You don't believe in prophecy?"

How does the judgement happen, logistically speaking? Will my local parish rat me out that I don't go to mass every week?

9 posted on 04/03/2005 4:30:28 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: paltz

I think I'll stick with the Word of God.


10 posted on 04/03/2005 4:32:33 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: rellimpank

You mean you didn't notice?


11 posted on 04/03/2005 4:33:18 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: paltz

The Incas predicted the end of the earth on Dec. 23, 2012.


12 posted on 04/03/2005 4:34:08 PM PDT by -=Wing_0_Walker=-
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To: leadpenny
NewsMax has gone supermarket tabloid?

Nope .. most catholics know of this story

13 posted on 04/03/2005 4:34:39 PM PDT by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it" ~ Pope John Paul II)
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To: Clara Lou

not just newsmax.....I'm sure Noory had a hard time keeping a straight face with this guy....

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/aspie/trueorfalse/


14 posted on 04/03/2005 4:35:21 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Great Prophet Zarquon

Never say never. This is not a lone prophecy.


15 posted on 04/03/2005 4:37:05 PM PDT by Integrityrocks
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To: -=Wing_0_Walker=-
The Incas predicted the end of the earth on Dec. 23, 2012.

They were also right about the Red Sox winning the World Series in 2004.

16 posted on 04/03/2005 4:37:19 PM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: paltz
If you read a prediction from Nostradamus that doesn’t seem to match any event, you can say “well, it must not have happened yet”. You can’t do that with this prophesy, because the succession of popes since 1139 (or 1590) is a known quantity. This allows more interesting analysis, as you can score how well (or badly) each pope was “predicted”.

From the glory of the olive

17 posted on 04/03/2005 4:39:30 PM PDT by John Lenin (The constitution has been overthrown....... Isn't protecting the border in there ?)
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To: -=Wing_0_Walker=-
No, the Mayas did. There have always been End Of The World Prophecies. Its fitting in this new millenium we wonder whether we will see the next thousand years? Whether they come true depends on what we do. They become self-fulfilling only if we are so fatalistic to think we can't alter destiny.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
18 posted on 04/03/2005 4:39:54 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Very interesting site-- Is Fr. Wingate in good standing with the Church?


19 posted on 04/03/2005 4:42:27 PM PDT by Clara Lou (I'm not pro-death, I'm anti-hysteria.)
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To: paltz
According to his biographer St. Bernard of Clairvaux, in his book "Life of Saint Malachy," the saint was known to have the gift of prophesy and had even predicted the exact day and hour of his own death.

JPII was said to also have told others that he knew the day of his owh death. I was praying that he would not die on April 1st.

20 posted on 04/03/2005 4:42:53 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: paltz

The Italians better get in on the missile sheild. The moonbats may try to take our Rome.


21 posted on 04/03/2005 4:43:57 PM PDT by John Lenin (The constitution has been overthrown....... Isn't protecting the border in there ?)
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To: GreenHornet

did they give anything on the DowJones ?


22 posted on 04/03/2005 4:44:23 PM PDT by kingattax
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To: Clara Lou

he sounded more like a serpico wannabe than a Priest to me.....btw, he was married before he became a Priest, he said.


23 posted on 04/03/2005 4:46:01 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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...Malachy is said to have gone into a trance and received a vision...

I know lots of Irishmen who see things.
I know lots of Irishmen who are sober.
But I don't know any Irishmen who see things when they're sober.

Granted, some of 'em have been SO 'tranced' they had to be carried HOME...

24 posted on 04/03/2005 4:46:38 PM PDT by solitas (So what if I support a platform that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.3.7)
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To: paltz; GatorGirl; maryz; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; livius; goldenstategirl; ...

Read the prophecy, St. Malachi identifies the last Pope as well as the next, he does NOT say others will not be between them.


25 posted on 04/03/2005 4:48:44 PM PDT by narses (St James the Moor-slayer, Pray for us! +)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Ummm .. not to be mean ... but the good Father Wingate is a tad .. how I say .. out there


26 posted on 04/03/2005 4:50:13 PM PDT by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it" ~ Pope John Paul II)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Geeeez!....I just went to that site you linked....Im crawling into bed and pulling the covers over my head...we are all doomed!


27 posted on 04/03/2005 4:51:09 PM PDT by mystery-ak (Im twitterpatted)
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To: Clara Lou

The Glory of the Olives...

Werent Italy and greece called the "Olive States" If the next pope is Italian, (or greek for that matter) He would be the Glory of the Olive State, as was John Paul the great of Poland.


28 posted on 04/03/2005 4:53:14 PM PDT by el_doctor2
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To: paltz
[ The pope who then follows this choice in the Chair of St. Peter will be the last pope, and after his reign Rome will be destroyed. ]

Wishful thinking..

29 posted on 04/03/2005 4:54:26 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed by me to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: -=Wing_0_Walker=-
The Incas predicted ... Dec. 23, 2012

The Mayan calendar also forecasts 2012, but I didn't get the month and day.

g

30 posted on 04/03/2005 4:54:45 PM PDT by Geezerette (... but young at heart!-)
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To: rellimpank
--and what did Nostradmus say?---oh, that's right -he had the world ending in 1996--never mind---

Check your spelling. That would be "Nostradumbass"...

31 posted on 04/03/2005 4:55:08 PM PDT by Luddite Patent Counsel ("Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others." - Groucho Marx)
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To: -=Wing_0_Walker=-

I predict that the Incas will end long before that.


32 posted on 04/03/2005 4:55:55 PM PDT by Luddite Patent Counsel ("Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others." - Groucho Marx)
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To: paltz

The Farmer's Almanac is good, too.


33 posted on 04/03/2005 4:57:26 PM PDT by RightWhale (50 trillion sovereign cells working together in relative harmony)
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To: Mo1

I only heard 10-15 mins of him before I fell asleep.....wish I had heard the callers, LOL.


34 posted on 04/03/2005 5:00:51 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: el_doctor2
If the next pope is Italian, (or greek for that matter) He would be the Glory of the Olive State
I don't find that particularly significant. Italians are much more likely to be named Pope than other nationalities. The same thing applies to "Petrus Romanus." It's easy to prophesy generalities and likelihoods.
35 posted on 04/03/2005 5:02:04 PM PDT by Clara Lou (I'm not pro-death, I'm anti-hysteria.)
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To: narses
Read the prophecy, St. Malachi identifies the last Pope as well as the next, he does NOT say others will not be between them.

If I remember correctly, the next Pope lives a short life for some reason. I don't know if the prophecy says what happens to him, and I don't have time to look it up.
Anyway, if so, that would have the last one coming sooner than would normally be expected. Say....around 2012?
Oooooo. Scary. What are the odds?

36 posted on 04/03/2005 5:04:00 PM PDT by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: SteveMcKing

"Is it not feasible that we're talking about space ships and extraterrestrials when we discuss Rapture? "


I, for one, would welcome our new Alien Overlords...


37 posted on 04/03/2005 5:05:15 PM PDT by Blzbba (Don't hate the player - hate the game!)
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To: paltz

I'm waiting to see what Nostradamus said on the subject.


38 posted on 04/03/2005 5:06:00 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: paltz

This sort of stuff fills my mind's eye with a vision of the White Cliffs of Dover.


39 posted on 04/03/2005 5:06:11 PM PDT by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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To: Clara Lou

"Italians are much more likely to be named Pope than other nationalities. The same thing applies to "Petrus Romanus." It's easy to prophesy generalities and likelihoods."


So my "A John Smith will rise in Britannia and smite the evildoers!!!" prophecy probably won't mean too much when it happens?


40 posted on 04/03/2005 5:08:42 PM PDT by Blzbba (Don't hate the player - hate the game!)
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To: Luddite Patent Counsel
"I predict that the Incas will end long before that."

"Tupac Amaru, The Life, Times and Execution of the Last Inca" - recounting of the history of the last Incas, from the strangulation of Atahuallpa to the beheading of Tupac Amaru in Cuzco in 1571 http://www.jqjacobs.net/andes/tupac_amaru.html

THEIR world ended about 441 years earlier than they predicted it would!

41 posted on 04/03/2005 5:09:42 PM PDT by Sooth2222
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To: Non-Sequitur

"I'm waiting to see what Nostradamus said on the subject.
"


I hope he foresaw a UNC victory tomorrow nite....


42 posted on 04/03/2005 5:09:45 PM PDT by Blzbba (Don't hate the player - hate the game!)
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To: Blzbba

He doesn't mention a ram anywhere, does he?


43 posted on 04/03/2005 5:10:47 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Blzbba
I hope he foresaw a UNC victory tomorrow nite....

Nope, second book, thirtieth quatrain, "In the year of two Popes, the orange machine from the North shall rise up and smite those with heels of Tar.

44 posted on 04/03/2005 5:11:40 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Clara Lou
Very interesting site-- Is Fr. Wingate in good standing with the Church?

He is a succession of the Ultrecht Succession-The North American Old Roman Catholic Church or something like that. So, no, he's not a Roman Catholic Priest of the Latin Rite.

I think he and Sinead O'Connor have about the same legitimacy as far as their Priesthoods are concerned.

45 posted on 04/03/2005 5:12:43 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Rest in Peace, John Paul II)
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To: paltz
The 'Glory' of Olive

46 posted on 04/03/2005 5:13:39 PM PDT by uglybiker (A woman's most powerful weapon is a guy's imagination.)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Who are those nut jobs????


47 posted on 04/03/2005 5:13:50 PM PDT by sissyjane (Silk pajamas for dress up, and flannel for everyday-perfect Freeper wardrobe!!)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68
Father Andrew Wingate

Father Andrew Wingate returned to Coast to Coast for a quick update. He was talking with George Noory.

He still maintains that Pope John Paul II will be cured of his illness. He says do not believe anything we are told in the news. Wingate says the Vatican will not announce the Pope is dead because he will be cured.

He stands by everything he said on March 16th. But he did add that if the Pope does die then he is going to have to re-evaluate a lot of things.

Yes. He should re-evaluate a lot of things. (Gee, d'ya think? LOL)

48 posted on 04/03/2005 5:14:41 PM PDT by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: Blzbba
"A John Smith will rise in Britannia and smite the evildoers!!!"
Well done! Come up with enough for a book and see if it sells! Might get you a little side money.
49 posted on 04/03/2005 5:14:48 PM PDT by Clara Lou (I'm not pro-death, I'm anti-hysteria.)
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To: el_doctor2
Werent Italy and greece called the "Olive States" If the next pope is Italian, (or greek for that matter) He would be the Glory of the Olive State, as was John Paul the great of Poland.

The Glory of the Olives doesn't necessary have to mean the place they are from

Traditionally, the olive branch has been associated with peace

For those who don't know about St. Malachy

St. Malachy

50 posted on 04/03/2005 5:15:49 PM PDT by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it" ~ Pope John Paul II)
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