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Moviegoers Living in 'Sin City'
BoxOfficeMojo ^ | April 3, 2005 | Brandon Gray

Posted on 04/04/2005 5:20:31 AM PDT by Happy2BMe

As news of Pope John Paul II's death dominated the weekend, moviegoers appear to have vindicated recent accusations that America is plagued by what religious radicals call a death culture—a charge lobbed by President George W. Bush in the wake of the Terry Schiavo case—by flocking to the ultra-violent Sin City.

A mostly monochromatic, digitally-rendered noir picture adapted from comic books by Frank Miller (Robocop 2) and co-directed by Robert Rodriguez (Spy Kids) and Miller, Sin City gorged on a gluttonous $28.1 million weekend estimate at 3,230 locations. Pre-release industry tracking was comparable to Constantine, another R-rated comic book adaptation, which opened to $29.8 million in February and has made $73.7 million so far.

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KEYWORDS: america; boxoffice; depraved; depravocrats; sincity
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This is what you get when you replace God with relativism in a society.
1 posted on 04/04/2005 5:20:31 AM PDT by Happy2BMe
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To: Happy2BMe

I've never even heard of it.


2 posted on 04/04/2005 5:21:40 AM PDT by Huck (Unauthorized mp3 file sharing is THEFT.)
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To: Happy2BMe

Looks like a cool movie to me. I'll be going to see it this next weekend!


3 posted on 04/04/2005 5:23:08 AM PDT by AntiGuv ()
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To: AntiGuv

Visually, it looks stunning. If it's half as good as the Frank Miller comic, it'll be great.


4 posted on 04/04/2005 5:24:00 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Count Petofi will not be denied!)
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To: Happy2BMe

Sin City gave me a headache. I couldn't recommend to anyone who isn't a die-hard Frank Miller fan. Even lots of Jessica Alba screen time can't make up for the unrelenting violence and grim tone of the film. Sin City's government reminds me too much of our own lately - the bad guys win because the law is on their side.


5 posted on 04/04/2005 5:24:57 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: Happy2BMe

Do we see any of Jessica Alba?


6 posted on 04/04/2005 5:24:59 AM PDT by Perdogg (Rumsfeld for President - 2008)
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To: AntiGuv; GodBlessRonaldReagan; Perdogg

If you like Miller, Rodriguez, and Tarantino, you will like the movie. Those who are unsure or haven't seen their works before, should stay away or agree to not whine about it after seeing it. As for Perdogg's question, there is T&A in the movie, but Alba's character isn't part of it...once you see the movie, you'll understand why they chose not to go that route with her.


7 posted on 04/04/2005 5:29:32 AM PDT by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: Perdogg

Who is Jessica Alba?


8 posted on 04/04/2005 5:30:06 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (What do you call being denied food and water until you're dead?)
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To: AntiGuv

Don't waste your money. It was absolutely the worst movie I have ever seen in my life. Calling it "idiotic" does disservice to the term. Extremely poor plot, focus was on comic book-style scenery and dialogue. I've only wanted to walk out of two movies in my life, and the only reason I didn't was I didn't want to unnecessarily pressure my wife to leave. In discussing with her afterwards, she felt the same way. She thought I wanted to stay too. I even slept through part of it.


9 posted on 04/04/2005 5:31:28 AM PDT by Real Cynic No More (Al-Jazeera is to the Iraqi War as CBS was to the Vietnam War.)
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To: Happy2BMe

For Later, at Work!


10 posted on 04/04/2005 5:32:34 AM PDT by speed_addiction (Ninja's last words, "Hey guys. Watch me just flip out on that big dude over there!")
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To: Conspiracy Guy

An actress. She's cute, but no Betty Davis. Her "acting" is suspect.


11 posted on 04/04/2005 5:33:50 AM PDT by Perdogg (Rumsfeld for President - 2008)
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To: Perdogg

Last movie I saw at the theater was Little Mermaid when my kids were young.


12 posted on 04/04/2005 5:35:39 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Tag line repossessed)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

She's the girl in "Sin City".


13 posted on 04/04/2005 5:39:38 AM PDT by theDentist (The Dems are putting all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: AntiGuv
If you liked "Pulp Fiction" you'll like this one. Very similar in terms of structure, intersecting plotlines, jumping back and forth in time, etc.

The production design (noir comic book) is very striking. Violence is unbelievable -- you name the form of mayhem, it's in here. It's so extreme, it's almost cartoonish -- like those screwball Looney Tunes from the 40's.

I found it interesting. Not everyone's cup of tea, though.

14 posted on 04/04/2005 5:40:01 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Republicam)
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To: Happy2BMe
I'm mainly interested in the production values, since it was posted entirely on a Mac G5 (please, no Mac/PC arguments here) and that's what I'm using for my video work.

I'm impressed with the previews. Every frame looks like it was pulled straight off the pages of a comic graphic novel, so as a stylistic exercise alone, I find it fascinating.

15 posted on 04/04/2005 5:40:19 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Everything that I've written on it for the past two years is GONE!)
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To: Real Cynic No More
It was absolutely the worst movie I have ever seen in my life.

It's apparently a highly accurate depiction of the graphic novels - it's just too ugly a movie to have wasted that much money making. A great cast - Jessica Alba, Mickey Rourke, Bruce Willis, and Benecio Del Toro all put in good performances - but in the end it didn't seem to matter. I'm not one who minds depictions of the dark side of humanity, but this one seemed way over the top.

16 posted on 04/04/2005 5:40:59 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: GodBlessRonaldReagan
I've never been a big Miller fan, but I'll probably give this one a try. It does look really stylish and interesting. I will probably prefer Fantastic Four, though.
17 posted on 04/04/2005 5:41:33 AM PDT by TheBigB (Need a thread hijacked? Call TheBigB! 24 hours a day...reasonable rates...inquire within...)
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To: Happy2BMe
It was a terrific movie. If you're a fan of the gritty nature of modern graphic novels (as opposed to the corny camp of older comic books) then you will love this movie. As opposed to being a movie about a comic series, it's a comic series that happens to have moving frames on the pages.

Be warned though, it is indeed very violent.

18 posted on 04/04/2005 5:45:48 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (The plan was simple, like my brother-in-law Phil. But unlike Phil, this plan just might work.)
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To: Happy2BMe

More garbage from Hollywood I will never see. They stopped making decent movies back in the 60s.


19 posted on 04/04/2005 5:50:14 AM PDT by MisterRepublican
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To: Conspiracy Guy
Who is Jessica Alba?


20 posted on 04/04/2005 5:51:38 AM PDT by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: Cincinatus; Real Cynic No More; peyton randolph
I really got into Pulp Fiction and like Frank Miller's style so it sounds as if this is right up my alley. Anyhow, the spectacular graphics alone are enough for me to want to check it out - might inspire me with a concept I've been toying with for a novel.
21 posted on 04/04/2005 5:51:45 AM PDT by AntiGuv ()
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To: theDentist

Even I figured that out. But that still doesn't give me a clue.


22 posted on 04/04/2005 5:52:14 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Tag line repossessed)
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To: Happy2BMe

Saw "Sin City" Saturday. Well done, well acted, visually stunning, very gratuitously violent. If it's your kind of thing (as someone noted, if you like Miller ("Dark Knight Returns"), Rodriguez (sp? "El Mariachi"), and Tarantino ("Kill Bill")) you'll like it; if you don't like or recognize those names, DON'T GO.

Four short stories are presented, each depicting the dark underbelly of Basin City. Beautiful dames, bent detectives, crooked cops, hookers, ugly thugs, innocent children, and powerful politicians butt heads (and break limbs, smash jaws, sever limbs, etc.) over power and desire.

The black-and-white-with-a-splotch-of-color style is striking and well done. It's a breakthrough in movie style, supporting the over-the-top comic-book visuals. I primarily went to see that.

The action was also over-the-top, well into gratuitous - made possible by the comic-book setting.

Morality presented was ultimately good-vs-evil, but good wasn't much better than evil, and a lot of time dwelt on the evil.

Despite the link to comic books ([ahem] graphic novels), this is absolutely NOT for children. It's not for most adults, either. Like "Seven" and "Pulp Fiction", it's well done - but not for the weak of stomach or pure of heart.


23 posted on 04/04/2005 5:54:08 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: Future Snake Eater

I want to see it. I'm waiting too for The Watchmen.


24 posted on 04/04/2005 5:54:47 AM PDT by kenth
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To: peyton randolph

Kind of average looking.


25 posted on 04/04/2005 5:55:22 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Tag line repossessed)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

26 posted on 04/04/2005 5:55:44 AM PDT by TheBigB (Need a thread hijacked? Call TheBigB! 24 hours a day...reasonable rates...inquire within...)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Just google an image of her. You'll see that she is, for the most part, forgetful.


27 posted on 04/04/2005 5:55:51 AM PDT by theDentist (The Dems are putting all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: Cincinatus
If you liked "Pulp Fiction" you'll like this one.

I liked Pulp Fiction but I didn't care for Sin City. I didn't think they pulled the plot lines together well at all, it felt as if it was an afterthought. I did find the character of Marv compelling. Individually I liked the portrayal of several of the characters, but didn't feel the movie as a whole was pulled together.

28 posted on 04/04/2005 5:55:56 AM PDT by zlala (I used to have a handle on life but it broke.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Dark Angel. She was the star of that Fox series from a few years back. She will also be in this summer's Fantastic Four movie. She was also one of the "cool" mean girls in Clueless.


29 posted on 04/04/2005 5:56:17 AM PDT by rabidralph (Ahhh, the internet.)
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To: rabidralph
Can't wait for the FF film...

30 posted on 04/04/2005 5:58:39 AM PDT by TheBigB (Need a thread hijacked? Call TheBigB! 24 hours a day...reasonable rates...inquire within...)
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To: Happy2BMe
This is what you get when you replace God with relativism in a society.

On a positive note, I'd guess that half the crowd didn't know that the pope has passed on.

31 posted on 04/04/2005 5:58:43 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: ctdonath2
this is absolutely NOT for children

I couldn't believe how many children where in the theater with adults. Where are their brains? (The adults, not the kids...though after seeing this, I might wonder about the kid's brains)!

32 posted on 04/04/2005 5:58:49 AM PDT by zlala (I used to have a handle on life but it broke.)
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To: zlala
I liked Pulp Fiction but I didn't care for Sin City.

Definitely "Pulp Fiction" meets "Kill Bill" in a graphic novel setting. Not for everyone's taste. However, I'm a fan of Miller, Rodriguez, and Tarantino and so found it fascinating how their works were blended together.

33 posted on 04/04/2005 5:59:06 AM PDT by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: Aquinasfan
I'd guess that half the crowd didn't know that the pope has passed on.

The pope died? Who knew? Anything else I missed? /s

34 posted on 04/04/2005 6:00:29 AM PDT by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: TheBigB

Yeah, I loved the cartoon when I was little. I'm glad that Hollywood is making these cartoons into live-action films. Spider-Man 1and 2 were great.


35 posted on 04/04/2005 6:01:06 AM PDT by rabidralph (Ahhh, the internet.)
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To: TheBigB

Yawn!


36 posted on 04/04/2005 6:03:31 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Tag line repossessed)
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To: theDentist

That's what I saw.


37 posted on 04/04/2005 6:03:54 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Tag line repossessed)
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To: rabidralph

None of those strikes a chord. I guess I don't get out much.


38 posted on 04/04/2005 6:04:34 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Tag line repossessed)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

I understand that tracking down all those conspiracies keeps you pretty busy.


39 posted on 04/04/2005 6:08:20 AM PDT by rabidralph (Ahhh, the internet.)
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To: Happy2BMe

It received $28.1 million.

Let's see.

$28.1 mil divided by $8 a ticket.

That's only about 3.5 million people who paid to see it.

Sounds like a flop to me.

There's nothing more glorious than watching Hollywood's death spiral.


40 posted on 04/04/2005 6:16:41 AM PDT by Vision Thing (The Surgeon General has determined that being Democrat is bad for your health.)
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To: Happy2BMe
Shouldn't they change the title to:

"Didn't Pay For Color Rendering Because We're Greedy"

41 posted on 04/04/2005 6:19:38 AM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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To: Happy2BMe

42 posted on 04/04/2005 6:20:25 AM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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To: Happy2BMe

I am a big fan of noir and my only experience with Frank Miller was "The Dark Knight Returns." I was not disappointed with the movie one bit. I was impressed with all of the recognizable names. Even the ones playing smallish roles. Michael Madsen, Rutger Hauer, Powers Boothe.

Mickey Rourke's portrayal of a vicious, blood lusting, relentless killer on a rampage was brilliant.

I truly enjoyed this movie and it is my must buy list when the DVD comes out.


43 posted on 04/04/2005 6:32:51 AM PDT by speed_addiction (Ninja's last words, "Hey guys. Watch me just flip out on that big dude over there!")
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To: ctdonath2
this is absolutely NOT for children.

Well, not exactly.

It sounds/looks like its only audience would be those suffering from arrested development.

44 posted on 04/04/2005 6:32:52 AM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: rabidralph

Yes it does. Actually I do all I can to not support Hollywood. Going to a movie is not on the first 4 pages of my "to do" list.


45 posted on 04/04/2005 6:33:24 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Tag line repossessed)
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To: Constitution Day; mhking

Comic movie ping!


46 posted on 04/04/2005 6:47:47 AM PDT by TheBigB (Need a thread hijacked? Call TheBigB! 24 hours a day...reasonable rates...inquire within...)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Ping!


47 posted on 04/04/2005 6:48:42 AM PDT by TheBigB (Need a thread hijacked? Call TheBigB! 24 hours a day...reasonable rates...inquire within...)
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To: iconoclast
It sounds/looks like its only audience would be those suffering from arrested development.

For all of the whining about how deviant Hollywood is, where are all the people that bitch about it when good, inspirational and faith based movies like "Woman, Thou are Loosed" or "Diary of a Mad Black Housewife" come out?

These were two beautifully told stories depicting the strength of a faith in God and forgiveness. They were well done and heartwrenchingly acted. Yet no one saw them. A perfect opportunity to show that these types of movies could have an audience and we could have gotten more. But no, people would rather sit and whine.
48 posted on 04/04/2005 6:49:56 AM PDT by speed_addiction (Ninja's last words, "Hey guys. Watch me just flip out on that big dude over there!")
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To: zlala

Well, it's a matter of individual taste. I was more interested in the visual style than the plot, which frankly, wasn't very strong to begin with. By no means a perfect film, but not all that bad either.


49 posted on 04/04/2005 6:55:04 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Republicam)
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To: speed_addiction

I never considered Marv a relentless, blood lusting criminal. He was a man of circumstances. A big man out of place and time, hounded by corrupt police, framed by corrupt politicos and ultimately a man in a deep philosophical and moral quandary not of his making. In the world that is Sin City there is no recourse to a just Judicial system as all Justice is corrupted from the morally bankrupt politicians, and Church, to a police force that acts as a private army for those in power. Marv had little choice but to become a killer to exact Justice, and not merely revenge, for his murdered Love. Even when we learn that Marv had been in prison before, he leaves little doubt he had been placed there because he was doing the right thing. In fact every character of conscious in the movie had served or served time in Prison in the film and each intimated that they had fallen afoul of the legal system for doing the right things. Bruce Willis' character's only crime was that he saved the little girl from the Senators pedophile son. The story could almost be ripped out of the headlines today in some of our more violent inner cities.
The film asks the question where do you turn when everything has become corrupt the answer is you must find the will to act within yourself even when the world calls you a villain. I think some of you missed the point Frank Miller was making. He did not glorify the baseness of man in Sin City he showed that base men could do noble things in the absence of the rule of law.

(I will admit they did those things in a gruesome manner)


50 posted on 04/04/2005 7:08:32 AM PDT by Sentis
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