Skip to comments.Schiavo neurologist views Alzheimer patients as physician-assisted "suicides"
Posted on 04/04/2005 6:33:25 AM PDT by MikeEdwards
Years before he categorized Terri Schindler Schiavo in the persistent vegetative state, which led to her death by dehydration, neurologist Dr. Ronald Cranford was building the case for removing feeding tubes from societys vulnerable.
" The United States has thousands or tens of thousands of patients in vegetative states; nobody knows for sure exactly how many," Cranford wrote in a 1997 Minneapolis Star Tribune opinion piece titled: When a feeding tube borders on the barbaric. (WorldNetDaily. Com, March 23, 2005). "But before long, this country will have several million patients with Alzheimers dementia. The challenges and costs of maintaining vegetative state patients will pale in comparison to the problems presented by Alzheimers disease.
"The answer, he suggested, was physician-assisted suicide."
Cranford blames the medical profession for societys rush toward physician-assisted suicide "our archaic responses to pain and suffering; our failure to accept death as a reality and an inevitable outcome of life; our inability to be realistic and humane in treating irreversibly ill people. All of this has shaken the publics confidence in the medical profession."
Could it be no-food-no-water, white-coated doctors, propelled by right-to-die activism, that is shaking the publics confidence in todays medical profession?
Alleged to have participated in states like California without courtesy of a legal license, Cranfeld openly applauds European values that embrace euthanasia. Countries like Belgium, where experts believe that 10 percent of all deaths now result from euthanasia or by drugs administered by doctors to hasten death. . . . .
Sure would solve the rising costs of health care and Social Security.
(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
Yes, that is what is will come down to. The extreme cost of taking care of such patients will make this whole debate academic.
Geez...I've been reporting on this on FR for a week now...think the MSM will pick up on it? NOT.
Add the fact that many people nowadays are totally unprepared to face the diminishing capabilities of the elderly or their ultimate deaths and you have a serious problem with the popularization of euthanasia.
Haven't pulled the plug. I just got tired of watching people beat the crap out of each other over this. The case is tragic no matter which side you're on. I was on the side of life but both sides of this have gotten too inflamed. Take your comment to me. You don't know me but you jumped right in and insulted me. Hope you're proud.
I'm not interested in your opinion, that's all.
Coming from you, that is a compliment. Go kick your dog. You are dismissed.
It's just a darn shame that his parents didn't practice abortion. Amen.
Doctors are as vulnerable to the siren song of the culture of death as judges, lawyers, or anyone, perhaps more so. Once they get a taste for killing, any consideration of ethics, the Hippocratic Oath, and the like, goes out the window, drowned by the bloodlust. It bears remembering that Kevorkian, Mengele, the infamous "Dr. Brandt" of The Fuhrer Order, and all the rest, were at one time doctors before they became killers.
Cranford believes that PVS or Alzheimer patients have no constitutional rights.
Cranford testified that Terri was PVS for Michael, who said he was protecting Terri's constitutional right to refuse treatment and her constitutional right to privacy.
A brand new category of human beings that are no longer "persons."
Ah, another pig squeals its way into the limelight.
LOL I always cracks me up when people take the time to click on the post and enter a comment that basically says, "Not interested." If you aren't interested, why waste the time to do that in the first place?
Jeez. But put panties on the heads of terrorist and all Hell breaks loose.
It is a contrarian tact. I use it sometimes to lighten things up. Some understand that other's want to fight. The Schiavo case is far from over and much will be learned. But every thread doesn't have to be about Terri. I was on the Official Friday Silliness thread the other day and someone brought the case over there.
Hope I didn't offend you with the Auto Ignore.
I mean... it is really really sad. A lifetime of taking pictures means absolutely nothing to her. And when we watched Finding Nemo... it took her an hour to figure out that it was a cartoon.... and not a real talking fish.
She stays during the day at an assisted living center and we pick her up in the evenings. When she has to go there fulltime someday, we've already signed the do-not-ressussiate papers. We can talk about the value of life and all that.... but I think that for those of us that are christians, we have to know when to let go and let them be with God. Where it's FAR FAR better anyway.
Alzheimers is a disease that one gets by no fault of his own. If we are going to save money lets cut off funds to people who get Ill of their own doing such as Aids and smoking. Medical cost were not a proplem in this country until there was Aids.
That's a pretty silly statement.
Aids showed up in or about 85 I am sure there is a graff out there showing Medical costs for the last 50 years.
I just think in light of malpractice suits, new drugs, new treatments, longer lifespans, better care, more longterm care, more elderly, aids, alzheimers, inflation... and everything else that effects medical costs... well to blame it all on aids is pretty silly. Keep in mind, I don't have aids, and I dont' know anybody that does... so it's not big issue for me. I just think your statement was pretty silly thinking.
Agreed. Lawyers and juries put it where it is.
In case you hadn't noticed, every thread isn't about Terri.
Just the costs of the rubber gloves every fireman every doctor and or nurse has to put on before they can even touch someone sence aids could pay off the national debt
Dr. Cranford was Nancy Cruzan's dr. also and talked her parents into taking away her feeding tube and it took her 12 days to die. The father, Mr. Cruzan committed SUICIDE the day beofre Terri Schiavo died!!! He must have felt so damn guilty.
I am happy.
Mike Schiavo used Dr. Cranford because of what I just posted about Nancy Cruzan and her starving to death.....and her father committing suicide.
much less the prescription that was 25.00 in 85 is now some 500.00 so we can have R&D funds to cure Aids.
Medical costs in this country weren't a problem before socialism took hold.
Well, it worked. It made me laugh.
I'm glad. It has been so tense lately.
Huh? People had written about Mr. Cruzan's suicide for a lot more than a week.
Do you have a link to the story about Mr. Cruzan's suicide? I can't find it ANYWHERE!! Thanks.
Did you try FR search?
Nancy's father, Joe, committed suicide in 1996, after being exhausted by the emotions of the legal fight and beaten down by the subsequent criticism that his family endured.
THANS!! From the story posted last week, I thoght the dad committed suicide that day. Thanks again.
hmmm...do you think Michael will commit suicide too?
we go from supporting life no matter what to the extreme....ending life no matter what...
believe me, I run into both camps....
some families that want absolutely everything done to their elderly parent to those that can't wait to get the death certificate signed and wondered just how long this death thingy is going to take.....
I don't know, and I don't know whether any 'suicide' by Michael is would be more likely voluntary or involuntary. Remember that Michael probably knows about a lot of behind-the-scenes actors who want to remain unknown.
---what scares me is the all or nothing attitude....
we go from supporting life no matter what to the extreme....ending life no matter what...---
I think it's a sign of modern immaturity in dealing with death. For many people death is an abstract and frightening concept.
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